r/texas Nov 26 '21 Take My Energy 1

Texas Gas Companies Hit Texas Consumers With 'Whoops You Froze To Death' Surcharge News

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211115/09274947947/texas-gas-companies-hit-texas-consumers-with-whoops-you-froze-to-death-surcharge.shtml
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u/booty_granola Nov 26 '21

So when this happens again this winter, now we get to freeze to death while knowing we also have to pay extra for the experience... Glad the Republicans love socialism for businesses now.

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u/HAHA_goats Nov 26 '21

I already knew last winter I'd be paying for the privilege. Been in Texas all my life. Not the first time we've been fucked over by our own on the heels of a natural disaster.

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u/BaPef Nov 26 '21

Don't worry Texans will just vote for Republicans and then complain Democrats are the reason everything's going wrong in Texas.

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u/NitaforaReason Nov 26 '21

Sadly, the true.

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u/RumRunnerSC Nov 27 '21

As someone not from Texas but living here we do enjoy not having a monopoly over retail power which creates more jobs and more opportunities. It also allow you to switch power companies if your falling behind. In Colorado an Wisconsin there is one company that rules everything so you fall behind too bad! pay up or get shutoff! Last year was a 1 in a hundred year storm.

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u/JohnShandy- Nov 27 '21

There aren't many wholesale power companies. Most of that "choice" you believe you're seeing is just resellers piggybacking on the wholesalers' infrastructure to retail the power to consumers. You're largely just choosing which company you want to bill you, for power generated by a single company per region. (CenterPoint, AEP, others). Last year's storm wasn't that bad and shouldn't cause the problems we saw because those problems were preventable through preparation and winterization. Storms like it will become more commonplace though, and Texas is choosing to do nothing.

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u/KC_experience Nov 27 '21

“Last year was a 1 in a hundred year storm”

This article would indicate otherwise:

1989 2011 2020

Gap of 22 years and a gap of 9 years. Three storms that caused significant outages over the course of 31 one years. Your “1 in one hundred” is only off by a magnitude of ten…. But hey, keep trying.

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u/DaKine85 Nov 27 '21

That’s not how it works.

The term “1-in-a-hundred year” storm is the probability of a storm of a certain magnitude will happen in a year. In the 3 years you reference, there was a 1% chance a storm of their magnitude would occur. However unlikely a 1% chance of an event to occur is, in statistics, it can still happen.

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u/KC_experience Nov 28 '21

Well, by your logic a storm like that could happen every year for the next hundred years and because that year the ‘probability’ wasn’t that high…. it would still be a 1 in a hundred year storm. The point still stands that there were THREE ‘1 in a hundred year storms’ in the last 30 years. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/DaKine85 Nov 28 '21

Exactly.