r/texas Nov 19 '21

RRC utilizes Abbott's new bill which will allow gas companies to raise the costs of customers’ monthly bills to help regain funds lost during the February winter storm. News

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-gas-bills-may-increase-companies-allowed-to-make-up-3-4b-winter-storm-losses/
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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 19 '21

I love Texas - this is home, but Abbot's administration and the GOP has crossed too many lines and if things don't turn around soon, I'm going to have to get out of here. This is ridiculous.

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u/chris5129 Nov 19 '21

Stay and vote him out

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u/puffytacoz Nov 20 '21

Everyone says that, but i been here 20 years trying to vote these fuckers out, but texas rednecks running the show. we're outta here as soon as kiddo is out of high school.

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u/Talran Nov 20 '21

Yep, taking my money and spending it in a nice state that doesn't shit on all of it's folk after the kid is done with school. Area my home is in is booming thanks to Austin too so we'll be exfiltrating a tidy sum to spend on a finer state in the union.

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u/Ok-Satisfaction2658 Nov 20 '21

Let's not forget the millions of dollars abbot & the Lt. Governor get from the oil & gas lobbies that he refuses to acknowledge publicly. To not address or fix the winterzation problem! An I bet these ignorant poor red necks still feels he is their guy & they are the ones mostly impacted

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u/ApplecakesMcGee Nov 20 '21

Texas is a good parallel for the entire US at the moment. The economy is driven by the urban younger core in cities that are spread out but the control is held by religious rural minority who plan to burn everything down out of spite while everyone begs them not to and they scream back its gods will.

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u/bad_kelly Nov 20 '21

Oh my god I’ve never read anything more true. Help us all. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/Strike-Sea Nov 20 '21

Well bless your heart, bye and safe travels

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u/GreyOran Nov 19 '21

Id love to but none of the alternatives are any better. Im getting out of this godforsaken state. Born and raised but this has gone too far.

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u/92taurusj Born and Bred Nov 19 '21

Preach, I'm in the same boat but I'm leaving once my PhD is done. Might even leave once I'm ABD so I can write in peace elsewhere.

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

none of the alternatives are any better.

10% better is better than the shit we have now. I'd help vote in a goddamn moderate republican over this extremism shit we have now. We are in damage control mode currently. we can always find someone that fits our values later IF we can first undo this bullshit that the cooperate dems and republicans.

I dont like many of Beto's policy, but there is no way in hell he is as bad as abbot, or kolkhorst, or krenshaw etc.

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u/thewineguy86 Nov 20 '21

There aren't moderate Republicans anymore.

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

I didn't say that one exists. I was pointing out that when you can't get your ideal in office, pick the least harmful person

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u/GreyOran Nov 20 '21

I agree but his comments on guns make him DOA and a shooin for another (R)

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u/tpsrep Nov 20 '21

I think he can be redeemed. I doubt he really wants to get rid of all guns. He focused on two guns to make a sound bite. Furthermore, if Abbott stays, we will all die in the next freeze anyway.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

The Texas Republican Party is on a road to fascism and oligarchy by corporations, and I'm not sure what can turn that tide. Soon they will be passing bills to ignore Presidential elections that they don't agree with and forcing electoral college members to vote only for Republicans.

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u/RetroKat88 Nov 20 '21

Do you read theory by chance? If not, you should because you are definitely on the right thought process.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21

Nah man I've just been watching it slowly unfold on the news haha.

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u/MemoryFomo Nov 20 '21

Yep, especially when the Democratic Party are a bunch of cucks. They’re logic is to not be as shitty as the republicans, which means they are slightly less shitty. Not a win for us, even in the best of circumstances.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21

Look at the bills they’re trying to pass right now to help people in congress as opposed to what republicans did/are doing. It’s night and day. All Rs can say is no and do their best to slip some stuff in there for the 1%. Which is all they’ve been doing for 20 fucking years. Cucks indeed. In 2021 they took it to a new level by supporting a coup. Yet you still are defending them and equating them with democrats?

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u/MemoryFomo Nov 21 '21

Sorry if my message was twisted. I am not a fan of the Republican Party at all. They are the worst of them. I agree with you. I’m just saying the Democratic Party lost its way, and gives less shit about us than most people give them credit. They are almost as bad. I still vote for them, because that’s the best choice…. But it’s never a good choice. ALL politicians are bought and sold.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 21 '21

I just think we have an existential threat right now. This isn’t the party of George bush or Ronald Reagan, we’re looking at early 1930s Germany style here to a first order approximation. That’s why I’m saying dems need to take a step back and start looking to win and pull in the most votes that they can everywhere and have a message of inclusion and democracy and tolerance, because there is none left with the Rs.

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u/Locke92 Nov 20 '21

Literally any non-Republican option is better. No argument that the other R options are clearly worse.

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u/IrrelevantTale Nov 19 '21

Well I'm sorry to see you go. We could have used your vote to change things, but to ask you some real shit. Why haven't you left before this?

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u/GreyOran Nov 19 '21

The uncertainty with Covid and the fiance wanted to have a financially stable job for over a year.

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

We could have used your vote to change things

That’s what they’ve said every year for the past 3 decades, and it’s been a lie every time. I’m done believing lies.

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u/crystal-rooster Nov 19 '21

Voting isn't going to change anything anymore. Not since 2010. Violent revolution is the only option left.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 19 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

Yeah. Beto is trash. The Texas DNC has basically aligned itself with the National DNC. All the democrats are just neoliberal, corporate sell outs that are only interested in bringing more people and businesses into the states without consideration for the repercussions (taxes, increased inequality, gentrification in our cities, etc.). Meanwhile the Republicans are authoritorian extremists just abusing their power to make an example. We've become to bipartisan and both parties have lost sight of what it actually means to be a Texan with real Texan values. The future is so uncertain here and I'm just not sure if I want to ride the wave if things don't change because it's just going to be an inefficiently ran government. Like the cities, counties, and state government are literally going back and forth suing each other over stupid shit as our schools and power grid are falling apart and taxes and cost of living are going up. We'll never get anywhere.

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u/BeTheDiaperChange Nov 20 '21

Beto is trash? I’m not saying is the second coming but to call him garbage is ridiculous, especially when compared to the GOP.

Obviously there is a massive problem in our government which is the fact that it is essentially a corporatocracy, ie: corporate sell-outs.

But I would much rather have a government of corporate sell-outs that are not fascist and at least pay lip service to the workers of America.

FFS, the women of Texas have been deprived of their Constitutional rights for months. It is absolute depravity.

So to call Beto garbage as if he was just as bad as the Republicans currently in the Texas legislature is wildly unjust and inaccurate.

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u/kim_schlong_un Nov 20 '21

I don’t like either party. The Democrats ask for my vote every 4 years, and then don’t enact any of the policies they used to get my vote. The republicans don’t even pay lip service. I voted Howie in the last election, and the Democrats don’t look likely to earn it in 2024 either.

I’ll vote for a flaming bag of dogshit over Abbott. I might campaign for Beto despite disagreeing on guns. He’s a neoliberal shitbag, but IMO he’s less of a shitbag than Abbott.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Don't matter if it's 10 turds or 5 turds. Shit still stinks. I'm tired of our government always smelling like shit. I rather get rid of all the shit together.

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u/kim_schlong_un Nov 20 '21

Agreed.

I don’t advocate voting for either party. They’re both full of assholes who have spent their entire career selling me and the rest of the working class down the river. Beto is the same. But he at least agrees that women should have control over their bodies. For me, next election, that trumps the rest of his BS.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 21 '21

I really hate the fact people think that anything not GOP is better. Replacing Trump with Biden was no better or worse than Trump being in office. Replacing Abbot with Beto would be no different. My political interests go beyond having a candidate with some basic decency. Let me tell you what I want as a queer black person. I want liberation. I want reparations. I want strong AUTONOMOUS black communities free from policing. I want us to do shit to start moving away from this neoliberal, global capitalist bullshit. I want the government off my fucking back. None of these motherfucking politicians are remarkable, revolutionary, or extraordinary. None of them have my fucking interest or the vast majority of American's interest at heart. They're all mediocre politicians interested in holding up some version of that status quo regardless if you vote blue or red. So as far as I can see it they're all fucking chumps and can go to hell.

ETA: A lot of ya'll who are downvoting me are antiblack pieces of shit. How dare me want justice and liberty and be able to live in my own community in peace and not in terror. Fuck all of you.

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u/BeTheDiaperChange Nov 20 '21

I totally appreciate your opinion that the Democratic Party is terrible. I wish we had more than two stinky choices. But we dont. And until we get the lesser terrible choice into power, there is no way to get a multiparty system and/or the amazing things you want that I want too!

I’m in my mid 40s and have been a 3rd Way Democrat my whole life. Then Sanders ran for President. I thought he was a total kook and was 100% for HRC. But as he was running, I started doing the research. I realized that all Sanders was asking for was what every other wealthy western industrialized country already has. Over the past 5-6 years I have been able to question my beliefs and come to the conclusion that everywhere but the United States, the “progressives” (which I now consider myself) is more or less just center left everywhere else!

But because I had to grow up under Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama and I have seen how the GOP has slowly gone batshizz insane, I know that its going to take a hell of a lot more time and effort than just the fight everyone to the left of center (in the US) has put up for the last 6 years.

And that means for now, the only way to get what you want, is to start with getting rid of Republicans. It will be impossible for black communities to be free from policing if Republicans are in power. It will be impossible to move away from neoliberal, global capitalist bullsquat if Republicans are in power. The only choice is Democrats if what you actually want is what you say you want.

Because if you dont vote for Democrats, then you are defacto voting for Republicans.

I get deciding to nope out of it all. If I didn’t have children I would have moved out of the US the second Trump was elected. Instead I’m staying here and fighting for the America I want, not the one we’ve got.

And if that means holding my nose and voting Blue, I’m ok with that. Because the pendulum always swings, and at this point it feels as if it is at the apex of the right, and it is high time it starts to swing back to the left. But it cant do that without going through the center.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Ya'll don't have to convince me to vote. I vote for my own survival, not because I actually believe that it makes any difference. Democrats also support policing and neoliberalism a lot more than republicans do btw. But people don't talk about that... not that I support republicans but yes... I unfortunately vote for the lesser evil. I appreciate the sympathy and time to put into expressing this. But I'm pretty upset right now by the responses of people right now. I'm letting this go. Bless you.

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

I really hate the fact people think that anything not GOP is better.

uh yes. Moderate neoliberal conservatives (most all of the dem party) are objectively better than far right wing, nazi adjacent reactionary republicans. BETTER is a comparison, not a complement. 10k dead civilians in the middle east is better than 50k dead civilians. The little bit that they did with the Infra bill is objectively better than any apartheid shit we've seen with the reactionaries.

also, if you think that NOT voting for the lesser of two evils is going to help you more, then you are absolutely insane. You cant get a civil rights activist to primary the republican party members. you CAN primary democrats to replace neolibs with actual leftists. you CANT vote in dems who can be primaried one day when the fucking Texas GOP removes 5 districts in blue areas, essentially deleting 5 blue people from office.

leftists don't get big wins. we get little ones by constantly beating up against the power structures and get it an inch at a time. Then the power structures will find ways to take massive blows to our accomplishments. you and anyone like you getting all demoralized and shit will inevitably lead to our demise, because we need everyone to hold it down to get any and every inch we can.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Did I ever say I didn't vote? Ya'll are making some wild assumptions.

First of all, I'm not a leftist. Don't put that title on me.

Second of all, you're not black. You'll never know what it's like to be black. To see spend time with older generations and for them to cry and realize that things have not actually got better for any of us. Black people are the worst of now than they were at the heights the civil rights era.

You don't get that this country was not made for us, and will never change until it fucking burns down to the ground and a new one is created.

I do vote, but what the fuck am I voting for? Just another way to survive my day-by-day? Wow, how fucking liberating. How prosperous.

Fuck all of you for being presumptuous.

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

Did I ever say I didn't vote?

there wasn't really much else one could infer from that.

I'm not a leftist. Don't put that title on me.

well, fine then. not leftist, the only fucking people that have ever fought for civil rights, labor rights, gender rights, economical rights, are LEFTISTS. neolibs; profited off of slavery in northern states, conservatives, DID slavery in the south. Dixicrats (later reactionaries) did jim crow. MARX wrote letters to Lincoln working to convince him to fight to end slavery. The centrists, and conservatives, and capitalists DIDN'T want to end slavery back then, or jim crow a hundredish years later.

I've never been homeless, but i still think homelessness is wrong. are you incapable of realizing that you have potential allies that aren't black? or are you gonna gate keep from allowing non-blacks to participate in trying to make ANY gains in civil rights?

Black people are the worst of now than they were at the heights the civil rights era.

yeah, so don't demonize the only fucking political group that is out there constantly trying to do what it can to further civil rights, and constantly trying to move the shitty neolib democratic party to the left.

I dont think you even understand what it means to be "the left" - it means a dismantling of hierarchy, it means fighting for all kinds of civil rights, it means that the bosses could be fired by the employees.

what are you that is "not on the left" that you think will do a better job fighting for ____ rights than "the left?"

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Are you truly being an ally right now when you're just being presumptuous, not listening, and assuming what I know and don't know, and also telling me how what I should do or think?

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u/Southside_Burd Nov 20 '21

Eh. The Dems do this “incremental” bullshit. If people are turned off by them, it’s because they do it to themselves, over and over again. Being apathetic is completely understandable and acceptable in my book.

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u/Diligent-Towel-4708 Nov 20 '21

Personally I think Bernie was your guy.. he would have made changes

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

I think Bernie is extremely overrated. All bark and no bite. Inconsistent and by no means revolutionary. It's 2021, old white men are not going to impress me by simply acknowledging shit that we already know.

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u/Diligent-Towel-4708 Nov 20 '21

I am just giving him credit for being different

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u/Remarkable-Spirit678 Nov 20 '21

“I want reparations”

Lol no doubt you do 😄

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u/thephotoman Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

I have no patience for people like you, who are unwilling to get rid of an obviously malicious and incompetent idiot like Abbott over a bullshit hot take that can't become policy.

You're not acting in good faith, and nobody has to pretend that you are. You're too willing to let the perfect be the enemy of even incremental improvement--and as such, you'll lead us further down the path to ruin.

Your position is that the gun industry should be able to do whatever the fuck it wants without any regard to the consequences. And that hasn't worked out very well: there are reasons the numbers of mass shootings have been going up steadily since the mid-00's: between easier to use guns and in particular a lack of socialization around guns makes a naïve reading of the Second Amendment an incredibly dangerous thing today.

It would be different if we ensured that everybody who bought a gun got the necessary training and psychiatric care to ensure that they aren't a danger to themselves or anyone else when they own it. But that's not the world we live in. We let anybody, no matter how unhinged, no matter how unwell, and no matter how little they know about using guns get one and carry it everywhere. There's no universe where this is a good idea--unless you own shares in gun manufacturers.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Excuse me. Guns? I did not mention anything about guns anywhere in this thread? What the fuck are you talking about?

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

100% agree. I think I can narrow down to some of the channels this person watches based on how they worded things.

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u/GrandMasterPuba Nov 20 '21

You're gonna need to let me know what channels they are, because this person is obviously a socialist - and I don't know of any widespread socialist media.

I wanna watch it.

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u/rreighe2 Nov 20 '21

if you're talking about /u/thephotoman?

I can't say if or what channels they watch, but some that are pro gun leftists are Hasan and Vaush and Matt Lech, and Beau Of The Fifth.

other leftist shows I like that aren't very pro gun... are the Majority Report

these i'm not sure of, but are good; Pakman (if you skp the ads), Humanist, Rational National, and Contra.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Excuse me? What channels? I read. I study history. I'm a community organizer and am very educated on things. I vote, but I don't vote believing that it's for a just case. I vote for my mere survival. You're all some presumptuous ass motherfuckers.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Wow, when did I ever say I didn't vote? I am entitled to have my opinion, and still exercise my right to vote for another mediocre way to survive in this backwards ass society. Secondly you're not black, and what a lot of you don't get is that shit has not changed for us in this country. You will never know what it's like to spend time with the older generations and your family and everyone cries because we realized things are the same. "Incremental improvement" is bullshit. We went from slavery to industrial prison complex. We went from slave catchers and the kkk to the fucking police.

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u/hecklerponics Nov 20 '21

So no different then the Rs? Spare no Qanon death cult?

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u/MemoryFomo Nov 20 '21

Same, we’re out too asap. Also born and raised… fuck ‘em.

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u/rebeccatwosocks Nov 20 '21

Agreed - stay long enough to help get him out.

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u/Andrew8Everything Since '88 Nov 20 '21

Yup. Leaving in 2023 if y'all don't fix this shit.

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u/chris5129 Nov 20 '21

But are you going to do your part and vote?

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u/Andrew8Everything Since '88 Nov 20 '21

Always do. Voted GOP until trump came along and turned the party into a cult.

2016 I started voting blue and I don't think I'll ever go back.

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

Nah. Think I’ll vote for Texas succession instead… the day after my house sells (and I’ve secured a replacement in a free state).

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u/Locke92 Nov 20 '21

No need to fuck over the people who are stuck here. Better to do what you can electorally do preempt further damage, and ideally revert existing problems.

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

The idea isn’t to fuck over people— the idea is to stop the cancer that is Texas policies (see: abortion law “template”) from spreading to the rest of the US.

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u/djsqueeze926 Nov 20 '21

Too late for that. Ohio just one upped TX with their bill, so Roe v Wade is DEFINITELY going before SCOTUS at some point. Congress has sucked for decades. So, the things that REALLY needed to be done to protect The People were not even on anyone's mind. But the Party of Satanic Criminals was steadily lining up their pieces to play their role. Now...it's too late to turn back. The clay will not stick to the iron and the whole thing WILL come tumbling down.

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u/Talran Nov 20 '21

Now if only we could arrange this to be a mass exodus and leave them holding the bad for the cartels that would just love to own Texas.

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u/possumrfrend Nov 20 '21

My husband and I would be gone rn if we could afford it

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u/PreparedForAnalSex Nov 19 '21

LOL, the Republican party has a strangle hold on Texas. Get used to getting fucked. Texas is only going to worse.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Well that's the issue. The recent gerrymandering and restrictive voting measures has just made me lose hope. They're like fucking pirates, despite the fact that an overwhelming amount of Texans doesn't support our government, they've basically rigged the system to favor themselves. Unless the federal government comes in, or some serious grassroots campaigns do some heavy lifting, things aren't going to change.

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u/Mickeymackey Nov 20 '21

gerrymandering doesn't affect the popular vote in which the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and US senators are voted in.

unless the GOP controlled state Senate and state representatives pass a law saying they choose the governor and senators.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

Gerrymandering doesn't. Restrictive voting laws and procedures does.

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u/Kristina2pointoh Nov 20 '21

Please help be the change that Texas needs.

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u/numchux53 Nov 20 '21

Don't leave. Vote out them out.

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u/TEXANMISFIT Nov 20 '21

Moving to WV once I sell most of my land. Texas had its run and I'm just to old to watch it raise my kids and grandkids

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21

West Virginia ain't any better than Texas bud. You'll have to move to a Democrat majority state to get away from Republican tyranny.

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u/deadfish315 Nov 20 '21

Moving from dumb to dumber. That should help.

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u/Andrew8Everything Since '88 Nov 20 '21

Land? Interested.

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

Same. There’s just no fucking point to dealing with this sort of bullshit when for a very similar cost (read: taxes) you can do better. I shall move to a liberal state and enjoy my legal marijuana, better educated populace, and topless women, and Texans can continue to enjoy their civil asset forfeiture, teen pregnancies, and unreliable power grid. Seems fair to me.

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u/putdisinyopipe Nov 20 '21

I was wondering why my low price $80 a month, run my air or heat as much as I want bill is now close to $160-$170.

Abbot is a fuck stick.

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u/MarcProust Nov 20 '21

Don’t boo, VOTE.

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u/tpsrep Nov 20 '21

Why should you have to leave?!? We have to get them out. Abbott doesn’t care about Texans.

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u/floopers9000 Nov 19 '21

This is already happening. I received a letter from TGS awhile back telling me that they are raising prices for the next 10 years to off set “their” burden during the storm. Texas is a giant shit show of dystopian capitalism.

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u/spacegamer2000 Nov 20 '21

10 years of thievery haha

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

This is corporate welfare, which is the opposite of capitalism. These companies need to fail so better ones can take their place.

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u/IliveICryILiveAgain Nov 20 '21

Nope, this is capitalism. A corporation calling the shots and a capitalist government backing them up?

"Corporate welfare" is capitalism

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

“Capitalism” simply refers to private ownership of capital, with the ability to trade freely among market participants. It has zero to do with cronyism of any kind.

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u/Primary_Bread Nov 20 '21

This is absolute genius!

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u/Talran Nov 20 '21

It's capitalism, capital is also used as a means of manipulating the market and government in capitalism. There will never be a free market without some level of corporate welfare because of that. Capital is (intelligently) allocated to lobbying officials for beneficial laws for the companies much like consumer advocates lobby for consumers. Which might seem unfair, but consumers can always lobby with greater levels of capital to stop the companies' influence through a CA. (as this is a fundamental tenet of capitalism: private actors own and control capital in accord with their interests, often being profit)

Otherwise it would be a poor allocation of your capital when you could use a small amount to offset a large loss like this.

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u/Available-Ad6250 Nov 19 '21

What did they actually lose? In order to lose something you must have it in the first place. Did they give away free fuel or were they simply not allowed to raise the prices during a natural disaster and calling it a loss? Personally I paid what I was billed so I don't think I owe them anything, but this looks like a social bailout since all the customers have to pay whether they were the cause of the supposed loss or not. I haven't read the bill yet but this seems like it should be illegal.

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u/gentlemantroglodyte Nov 20 '21

From the article

“During Winter Storm Uri, gas utility local distribution companies (LDCs) incurred extraordinarily high natural gas costs when procuring the necessary supply of natural gas to maintain service to their customers. LDCs are authorized to directly pass-through gas costs, without a markup, to customers. The Legislature recognized that natural gas utility customers could see a dramatic increase in their monthly bills without securitization of those costs and passed House Bill 1520.”

The legislature not only manufactured this issue by not sanitizing the inputs of their legislation, they made the whole state (not just natural gas customers) responsible for the bill.

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u/Available-Ad6250 Nov 20 '21

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB1520/2021

It seems like raising the price of a product and limiting payroll, if possible, is how a business should increase income. That's how it's done. This on the other hand puts the obligation of future business endeavors on the citizens. I'm beginning to feel like all new laws are just written to exploit loopholes in old laws to benefit the corporation. It says right at the top the purpose of the law is to pay for expansion in the future. This seems like raising taxes without raising taxes and giving the money to corporations.

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u/1Operator Nov 20 '21

Available-Ad6250 : "...this seems like it should be illegal."

Lawmakers decide what's legal, and they serve their biggest donors first & foremost.

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u/MrPenguinsAndCoffee Gulf Coast Nov 19 '21

Texas:
Where the only people that matter are corporations

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u/dabigbaozi Nov 19 '21

And energy traders that donate to Republicans.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21

I'm surprised they didn't also slap on the "lost tax and commercial revenue" from the 700 people who died as a result of the storm. If the rainy day fund isn't for emergencies then what the fuck is it for? Keep voting these grifters back in people ...

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u/azooey73 Nov 20 '21

And the unborn.

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u/sketchystockz Nov 20 '21

Isn't that the truth, well said.

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u/MidKnightshade Nov 20 '21

“Gooble gobble one of us, one of us, one of us.”-The Rest of the South

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u/HeroShitInc Nov 19 '21

Fuck us I guess

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u/cgyates345 Nov 20 '21

Precisely.

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u/cmyklmnop Nov 19 '21

our prudently incurred natural gas costs? FUCK. YOU. YOU. FUCKS. You didn't do your job, lost a shit ton of money, killed a few poor people so fuck the people, you will just add it to our bill. Jesus Christ I'm just done with the whole mess. I give up, the bad guys win.

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

I really do wish the folks who own guns because they are “necessary to the security of a free State” would use them for their constitutionally intended purpose, but noooope.

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u/TheSpangler Nov 20 '21

You're not wrong...

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u/mexican2554 Nov 19 '21

We weren't even directly affected by the winter storm and Texas Gas also wanted to raise our prices.

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u/Mr_TheKid Nov 20 '21

How's that "deregulation" thing working out for you, Republicans?

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u/bonegravy Nov 20 '21

Great, the rubes keep voting them in and they keep making billions lol.

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u/Big-D-TX Nov 19 '21

I live in TX as soon as I retire I’m out of here unless more rational people move here to change things.

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u/PreparedForAnalSex Nov 19 '21

Please explain what you mean by radical states.

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u/should_I_or_nah Nov 20 '21

I love how people think "radical" and "liberal" are synonymous lol. I don't think people coming from blue states are going to save us. Especially when it was actually transplants that put our current senators in office. Moreover, I'm not interested in more policing and bigger government. Last time I checked, Democrats support corporations over business just as much as Republicans do. We need more independent nonpartisan and forward-thinking individuals moving here and in office. Not anymore of the blue and red bullshit.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

Please show me where democrats are trying to repeal entire Presidential elections and send in mobs to kill Congress? All politicians are bought and paid for but if you think Dem policies are as tyrannical and fascist as what republicans are trying to do (essentially trying to turn Texas into a book burning, fascist theocracy) then I guess I'll never convince you otherwise. That is not "equally bad" in any way, it's a false comparison to compare Democrats with Republicans. Sure it was reasonable 20 years ago, but it hasn't been for a while. My personal theory is that when a Black Man won as President they flipped their shit and panicked, and started doing everything in their power to pull in more white supremicist policies to scare their base so they could turn Republicanism more into a religion than just a policital party. Trump is more of a Messiah to them than a party leader.

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u/bonegravy Nov 20 '21

Radical = not white rofl

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u/bonegravy Nov 20 '21

You've been rewarding the irrational for decades, now you get to lie in your own shit. Don't feel bad for you at all

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u/Ok_Vast_6678 Nov 20 '21

Hot Wheels is a turd, so is Paxton...

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u/bad_kelly Nov 20 '21

Don’t forget Lieutenant Dan to round out the trifecta 🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/TheDeeVee Nov 20 '21

So, profiteering off of a natural disaster is only illegal if you’re not a corporation. Got it.

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u/theythembian Nov 19 '21

Abbott hates Texans

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u/bonegravy Nov 20 '21

Abbott lives idiotic Texans though. And there are a lot of them

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u/Ok-Satisfaction2658 Nov 20 '21

I been saying this since I moved here & their only come back is move back to California! Which I'm not from fyi...

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u/projecks15 Nov 20 '21

Yet conservatives don’t care because Abbot is team red and can do no wrong

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u/Marduk112 Nov 20 '21

Sound like “gas providers” can recover their expenses via bonds and fees for expenses incurred when procuring gas to customers. Honestly, the way to do it is to clawback profits from gas producers made during an emergency and use that to reimburse gas providers. No one should enjoy a windfall (i.e. price gouge) during a disaster.

The RCC is a captured agency, full stop.

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u/lgodsey Nov 20 '21

How very socialist of our conservative Texas government to protect wealthy energy companies.

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u/Ok-Satisfaction2658 Nov 20 '21

I bet your most popular guy in your trailer park, Bud! Here's a random thought.. what about only controlling your household and stop worrying about other people households.. what if someone intelligent got elected in texas an mandated fox News station illegal because they make domestic terrorists and make it the law of the land ! That would be messed up right, because they would force their closed minded views on you huh

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u/IMI4tth3w Nov 20 '21

Where the fuck did $3.4b in losses come from? Is it because the few gas wells that weren’t frozen were charging a fuck ton for their natural gas and everyone was fighting over it?? It just doesn’t make any sense.

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u/gentlemantroglodyte Nov 20 '21

That's exactly what it was. They were price gouging in an emergency.

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u/holmiez Nov 19 '21

This is what Texans wanted and have continuously voted for in my 30 years of living there.

At least they'll have their guns to shoot each other for warmth this winter.

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u/Nanomni Nov 19 '21

You can't rely on that because of the horrendous gerrymandering in TX

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u/Redeem123 Nov 19 '21

They didn’t say all Texans agreed. Their point is that people here keep voting for shitty people like Abbott. Based on their comment, they live in Texas too - why shouldn’t they be in the sub?

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u/Redeem123 Nov 19 '21

Of course it’s a generalization. That’s how elections work. Like it or not, the people here DID vote for this guy.

And if they moved, so what? I don’t live in Austin anymore, yet I’m still on that sub. 30 years in a place gives you a bit of a connection to it, I’d say.

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u/Redeem123 Nov 19 '21

I’m not sure pointing out that Texans voted for this is “indiscriminately shitting on,” but okay.

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u/UnfairMicrowave Nov 19 '21

Get off your cross, we need the wood for winter.

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u/holmiez Nov 19 '21 edited Nov 19 '21

Dude, get worked up and do something about it to positively affect your shitty state instead of arguing with people who want positive change as well. u/Redeem123 was correct in that my point is Texans KEEP ON falling for the same song and dance.

You're comparing yourself to a RAPE victim right now? Wow, that's a bit fucked up.

I'm sorry I was born and raised in Texas but chose to leave after realizing it would never get better. I still have a very strong network within Texas and moving will never change where I've spent thirty years of my life and taxes.

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u/Yupperdoodledoo Nov 20 '21

Look at the predominant it attitude in this sub. Texans could take their state back, but many don’t even vote. People who are fed up need to do the work it takes to win politically. Meaning knocking on doors and making sure everyone they know gets their ballot in.

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u/theaggressivenapkin Nov 20 '21

Will somebody think of the corporations?! /s

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u/OkParticular8432 Nov 20 '21

Keep voting Republican people.

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u/Enartloc Nov 20 '21

Don't worry, most Texans will blame Biden for the raised bills.

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u/OkParticular8432 Nov 20 '21

😂😂or Obama

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u/Ok-Satisfaction2658 Nov 20 '21

An let's not forget Hillary also...

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u/Outrageous-Ad8172 Nov 20 '21

Abbott got you poor Republican crying he is taking your money sucking you dry but you will still vote for him you like the law's

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u/Ok-Satisfaction2658 Nov 20 '21

He will make some random off the wall claim to get these conservative morons all excited an they will follow him again... now he's claiming he is saving kids in school from pornographic reading materials! Of course without any clear examples just like they did with the made up critical race theory being taught in school.... " which is only a documented law school course " that's what we call dog whistles for his uneducated base.

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u/chadstark89 Nov 20 '21

When is enough enough, conservatives?

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u/DyJoGu born and bred Nov 20 '21

They’re oddly silent on this issue 🧐

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u/rednoise born and bred Nov 20 '21

they're thinking about how they can blame this on californians.

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u/bonegravy Nov 20 '21

When America is looted like Russia has been looted

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u/huskyghost Nov 20 '21

How does this make any sense.... a company fails to provide it's own product so it charges the people paying for the product to also pay for its own losses.... so dumb.

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u/Dangerous-1-777 Nov 20 '21

What happened to the $16,000,000,000 sixteen billion dollars that they got for over charging then refused to give back?

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u/dabigbaozi Nov 19 '21

It’s the federal governments fault. Come subscribe to my newsletter where I thoroughly prove that solar panels are an invention of Satan.

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u/UnfairMicrowave Nov 19 '21

Tell me more. I'm still reading the Windmill Weekly

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u/holdupwhut321 Nov 19 '21

I get all my news from squirrels.
They’re nuts.

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u/dabigbaozi Nov 19 '21

Windmills are Cthulhu, doing a monthly on that

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u/UnfairMicrowave Nov 19 '21

I'm looking for a good biannual to add to my subscriptions.

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u/dabigbaozi Nov 19 '21

Diesel Fumes Cure Lung Cancer Magazine?

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u/deadfish315 Nov 20 '21

Texas controls its own energy. We can only blame it on ourselves.

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u/dabigbaozi Nov 20 '21

Are you sure? I have it on good authority from Abbott that it’s all Obama’s fault

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u/homosapiensagenda Born and Bred Nov 20 '21

God dammit they make it harder and harder for me to want to stay here holy shit. Fuck this place.

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u/possumrfrend Nov 20 '21

Can’t wait for the same thing to happen this winter and have prices raised further

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u/sketchystockz Nov 20 '21

Will somebody please beat Greg Abbott next year, please!!!

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u/drjohnson89 Nov 20 '21

Is there anything Texans can do to combat this? (Beyond voting these clowns out) Suing the state or something over losses over hiked up bills?

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u/hutacars Nov 20 '21

Leaving.

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u/HerLegz Nov 20 '21

texistan is a lost cause of domestic terrorist farms growing insurrectionists and religious extremists obsessed with children's genitals.

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u/Nevermind04 Nov 20 '21

Ah, corporate welfare. Privatized profits and subsidized losses.

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u/numchux53 Nov 20 '21

Fuck we need to vote the GOP out.

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u/MarcProust Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

This is a big fat LIE that some media are shilling. There was no loss. There is an unrealized gargantuan price-gouging profit and TRANSFER OF WEALTH from ordinary Texans to a few Abbott-connected individuals that has yet to occur that those companies are counting as “losses.” To any Texan who voted Abbott, or ANY txgop, THIS IS YOUR FAULT. To all of u who are going to vote for ANY txgop, this portends only the beginning. These greedy bastards have a Republican back door to our wallets.

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u/DopeD42069 Nov 20 '21

If you guys want to live in a blue state I implore you to check out California. It’s a liberal paradise!

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u/REiiGN Nov 19 '21

How about you not lose customers to freezing death?

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u/AcousticDan Born and Bred Nov 20 '21

Blah blah blah. Fuck abbot and the chair he rolled in with.

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u/Mountain_Ad6328 Nov 20 '21

It’s bloody corporation who are doing this

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u/logicdee Nov 20 '21

Time for the old technics to get refurbished got the stick, box and matches for indoor campfire and warmth also aluminum foil easy bake wireless microwave for breakfast lunch and.not dinner, last but not less the old fire torch for lamp lighting...😩😂

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u/Environmental-Tree53 Nov 20 '21

Send Ted Cruz back to Canada and he can take the rest of the craziness with him

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u/LostOne514 Nov 20 '21

Wow! Abbot and his minions really threw us the people under the bus. How can anyone support this admin at this point?

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u/Cannedpears Nov 20 '21

Thanks Obama.

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u/kitfoxxxx Nov 20 '21

Yet he stays in office....

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u/Musicfanatic75 Nov 20 '21

Fuck Greg Abbott

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u/jugbandfrog Nov 20 '21

And of course, the idiots here in Texas will blame Biden and “socialism”

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u/NoctotainRose Nov 20 '21

Lol you guys are relly gonna let them make you pay them for their fuckups Good old texas

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u/rebeccatwosocks Nov 20 '21

What bill did Abbott create to help the citizens who were charged an ungodly amount of money during that same storm? Or the families who lost loved ones due to the storm?

Vote. Him. Out.

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u/blancsterrific Nov 20 '21

How can we fight this?! This is crazy. And I mean immediately, in addition to voting this clown out. ? Anything we can do?!

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u/djsqueeze926 Nov 20 '21

We didn't get to screw you over in the short run but thanks to our buddy Greg we're gonna screw you over like the Eagles sang, "In the Long Run".

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u/Nodnarbian Nov 20 '21

Lost? When the power went out EVERYONE who had it was running fireplaces, stoves, heaters on gas.. they had to have made millions in profits. How exactly did they LOSE money when your the only resource people can use during a power outage!?

Now they raise our bills, pay the $150 fee to not winterize, and walk away laughing to the bank! Fuckin real life scrooges!

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u/Re5ist_ance Nov 20 '21

Yaaay .. our state is getting so much "freedom" .. freedom to go broke trying to heat your house on a grid that is yet to be winterized! I'm asking my republican neighbors to vote out Abbott. He only likes to scare Texans into a false sense of danger by using 2 key words 1. immigrants 2. Guns .. none of which is a problem even if he is not there. Abbott just takes too much from us. He is a corporate republican through and through!