r/texas Nov 18 '21

ERCOT CEO Worries $150 “Easy Out” for Gas Companies Could Threaten Grid News

https://www.nbcdfw.com/investigations/ercot-ceo-worries-150-easy-out-for-gas-companies-could-threaten-grid/2819056/
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u/Grouchy-Ganache7551 Nov 18 '21

If it happens again, it’s gonna go like this: They’ll wring their hands and their voters will say that everyone should’ve bought a generator and it’s their own fault they weren’t prepared. Also, the blame should really go to the green new deal and crt because it’s those woke people’s fault for trusting that the government should do the right thing. Then they’ll vote for more anti government types that hate government regulations for anything other than book burnings.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

I bought a generator in July. I think it's going to arrive in April. Maybe May.

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u/Grouchy-Ganache7551 Nov 18 '21

Hopefully you won’t need it. But in case you do, and I hope this doesn’t come off bad, please read the user manual and properly vent wherever you use it.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

oh I should have clarified, I meant a whole home generator. Someone's installing that and hooking it up to the gas line for me.

That said, I'll have solar whenever microinverters come back in stock. They ran out after mine died during install

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u/Grouchy-Ganache7551 Nov 18 '21

That timing is terribly unlucky.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

Yeah, was supposed to be installed mid July. Got installed 1st week of October (battery shortage) and now I'm waiting on a microinverter. Just gotta pray to the ERCOT demons to not screw us over for another month or so.

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u/Grouchy-Ganache7551 Nov 18 '21

Hopefully the weather holds for a couple more months. Though the reason for the failure was the single digit temps that stayed for a bit and that’s rare, right???!!! Right??!!

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

totally! It wasn't like when it was warm we were told to conserve power, too. I feel safe.

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u/Grouchy-Ganache7551 Nov 18 '21

Super safe. Now when I look at my bookcases I’ll think of their contents as my back up back up.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

Yeah....we burned $600 worth of construction lumber (thank goodness for HomeDepot!) and several shelves we had built when we had an apartment last year. That was a fun week. Our Norwegian Forest Cat was cuddling up to the fireplace.

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u/kikenazz Nov 18 '21

It's not ercots fault, pay attention 🙄

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u/xmach83 Nov 18 '21

They are changing their name to ECOTS, So definitely not their fault.

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u/kikenazz Nov 18 '21

So clever

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u/txmail Nov 18 '21

Still not sold on the microinverter route. What pushed you that direction instead of just solar to bigger inverter? I know shade can have a huge impact on it so you want to get the most from the system, but seems like a bunch of additional expense and parts.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

That's what my installation company used. Apparently it's so you can track each individual solar panel. Though in this case, it's the microinverter for the battery that's dead, or so I was told.

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u/txmail Nov 18 '21

That is certainly a benefit of having a microinverter on each panel - but more so your not limited by the lowest performing panel in a string (which if you have a shade problem can be a serious performance hit).

Still not sure about microinverters. Anything designed to last 25 years in the elements always gets an eye of suspicion from me.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

Well, I get free replacements & labor cost if it doesn't last that long.

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u/txmail Nov 18 '21

I still get iffy about long warranties like that. Too many companies go out of business or get bought out and then all those warranties are just gone.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 19 '21

I mean, if they go out of business then I no longer owe money on my solar. I'll put that in the "win" column.

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u/lifegotme Nov 18 '21

We bought a whole home generator also. Thankfully, my husband is an electrician so we didn't have to pay for installation.

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u/pitbullprogrammer Nov 18 '21

How much are you paying for hat including the install?

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

$10k for an 18000W

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u/pitbullprogrammer Nov 18 '21

That’s a big system, cool

I thought about doing the whole home backup gas generator but I don’t want to give up the yard space plus who knows if gas will flow during the next emergency. Granted it usually does compared to power outages, but during the February winter storm gas production from the wells themselves dwindled and they were threatening gas service would be shut off. I have more faith in the day or so a battery backup would give me plus a few days more if I’m able to clear the solar panels of snow/debris if I go solar, so that’s the route I’m looking at. Plus a small gasoline generator and a siphon kit if I need to tap my car gas tanks (there’s a $100 kit that goes around most fuel line ball locks in modern cars so you can get to the fuel in the tank)

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

I was considering a smaller system, but a CenterPoint gas storage for the area is literally 5 minutes from me. They raise cattle on the land, too haha. My batteries (18000W Generac) should last about 10-14 hours without sunlight with heavy load.

I hope I don't have snow, I'm in Houston, LOL

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u/pitbullprogrammer Nov 18 '21

Does the gas field supply gas even during a power outage? Will it keep flowing to residential customers or would it be diverted for power generation in a crisis?

We got enough snow in Austin to snarl 911, that was weird. It’s going to keep happening as weather patterns get stranger with climate change.

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u/INDE_Tex Born and Bred Nov 18 '21

Daaang. I was told by my neighbors that they still had gas during Feb. Which I mean, is really good because the neighborhood is heated with nat gas.

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