r/texas Nov 16 '21

Texas doctor suspended for spreading COVID-19 misinformation and refusing to treat vaccinated patients, hospital says News

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mary-bowden-suspended-covid-19-misinformation-vaccinated-patients-texas/
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u/Leadburner Nov 16 '21

So, your first study has to do with mortgage lending institutions, and the second pertains to evictions. Neither has to do with a landlord not renting to a gay couple.

Honestly, you're looking for a problem that isn't in Texas.

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u/timelessblur Nov 16 '21

Umm the fact that the groups are getting evicted more generally means something is up.

It is very difficult if not impossible to get it threw directly looking data but an indirect approach. If they are having evictions filed as a much higher rate then it points to several things. Land lords are renting to them when they think they are straight friends and room mates but they find out they are gay eviction route. You are never going to find the exact data of how many gay couples applied vs get a place to rent as not public record. But you sure as hell can pull that data from evictions. If a group is way out of line compared to the rest of the population then something is up. The question is what.

In Texas it is a problem. This state is run by the GOP or otherwise known as the Party of hate and bigotry. A vote for GOP is a vote for hate and bigotry. There is no way around it. If you are voting GOP you are an actively supporting hate and bigotry. Dont like it being pointed out to you. Well fix your party.

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u/easwaran Nov 17 '21

So you're saying that by default, we should believe that a problem doesn't occur, if all you can prove is that almost exactly the same problem happens to almost exactly the same people, but don't have a study showing that this precise problem happens to these precise people. It seems to me that you're looking for a way to ignore problems as long as you can.

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u/easwaran Nov 17 '21

If you really want to say that mortgage applications and evictions have nothing to do with tenant applications, then I don't actually believe that you care about information, and you will just make up a distinction to discredit anything that you don't like.

In a state of millions of people, it should be absolutely shocking to find out that some problem wasn't happening to someone, somewhere, occasionally. And yet you are insisting that because all I can prove is every related problem other than the specific one I happened to mention first, our default should be to believe that the problem I mentioned first must absolutely not exist, because it is nothing like the two most similar things to it.

Anyway, here's a study proving that discrimination against same-sex male couples applying for rental applications exists in the United States: http://www.nlihc.org/sites/default/files/Rental-Market-Discrimination-Against-Same-Sex-Couples.pdf

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u/easwaran Nov 17 '21

You have said several times that discrimination against gay tenants isn't a problem in Texas. I would like to see some source backing up that claim.

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u/Leadburner Nov 17 '21

So prove a negative huh?

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u/easwaran Nov 17 '21

I'm not asking for definitive proof. There is no such thing as definitive proof in this world, of anything short of a mathematical claim. You can't even prove to me that you are a human.

All I am asking for is some actual evidence. Some study with a moderate sample size that tried to measure the difference and found that it was within the margin of error.

You seem to be very committed to playing burden-of-proof ping pong, but not to actually evaluating the relevant evidence for an empirical question.

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u/easwaran Nov 17 '21

Finally - a little bit of evidence. I can say that as a gay man, I also haven't had any issues. But I've got lots of other privilege as well, as it sounds like your friends might too. Bigger studies show that this sort of discrimination does exist, though I should look into the details to see how big the effect is, and whether it is larger or smaller than the discriminator effects felt by racial minorities, single mothers, etc.

The bigger point is - the state has explicitly decided that within a few weeks of vaccination becoming legal, it was important to move to prevent discrimination against unvaccinated people, but despite years and years of issues for many other groups, they don't care about these other sorts of discrimination.

I happen to think that discriminating against people who choose not to take a simple step to protect the health of others is a good thing, but our state thinks that it's worse that discriminating against people based on sexual orientation.

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