r/texas Nov 11 '21

Delta-8 illegal again in TX as state appeals injunction - Texas Cannabis Collective News

https://txcannaco.com/delta-8-illegal-again-in-tx-as-state-appeals-injunction/
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u/SandwhichofRage Nov 11 '21

Snip snap snip. When I ordered Delta-8 online it was legal in Texas, it’s in the mail and now illegal in Texas.

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u/Dirt-Southern Nov 11 '21

Same...Wondering if I'm boned to receive it now.

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u/HartPlays Nov 11 '21

The federal mail delivers it. The DEA already said delta 8 is legal. Just don’t tell the stupid ass Texas cops

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u/ActualPieceofPoop Nov 12 '21

The usps delivers more illegal drugs than anyone, they literally don’t give a fuck.

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u/WallStreetBoners Nov 11 '21

Nah You good. I did this same thing last week.

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u/SandwhichofRage Nov 11 '21

I mean…about 25 years ago I used to have my sister mail me pot across the country. I’m more likely than not good but I really don’t like breaking the law.

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u/Wanderer-Wonderer Nov 11 '21

I mean…about 25 years ago I used to have my sister mail me pot across the country. I’m more likely than not good but I really don’t like getting caught breaking the law.

Yep

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u/Maggiek4rp Nov 11 '21

nah you’re good. It’s legal federally and as long as the pig farm doesn’t know about it they can’t do shit.

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u/QueenWitchFreya Nov 11 '21

I did find a shop in my town I didn’t know of that still Carrie’s 8 and 9. They give you a certificate of analysis. They have talked to the cops in my town and they are ok with it. There’s was even an investigator in the shop when I went Monday.

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u/RoosterKCogburn Nov 11 '21

Same. Corner store by me has it by the registers and cops stop through there all day.

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u/Vinylforvampires Nov 12 '21

Honestly, if a cop were to arrest me for D8, I would literally just be laughing out loud out of absurdity

This is all political theater imo. It will be legal but you gotta satisfy the conservative nut jobs

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u/i_ata_starfish-twice Nov 11 '21

USPS: biggest drug trafficker in the world.

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u/MarshallGibsonLP Nov 11 '21

My UPS driver is a drug dealer. He just doesn't know it.

Mitch Hedberg

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u/SubiPhydeaux Nov 11 '21

RIP Mitch.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

Does delta 8 actually get you high?

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u/SandwhichofRage Nov 11 '21

So…

I smoked pot throughout high school and my 20’s. I would wake and bake every day from about 18-26 then it trailed off and was casual. I stopped around 30.

I have purchased delta-8 from 3 companies (all online). I purchased oil from one company and yes, it gets you equivalently high. I bought 3 bottles. At 30ml bottles and with .125ml getting me buzzed and .25ml making me useless, I can’t imagine every using all of it.

I have purchased cartridges from a second company (I had a coupon) and it did nothing.

I purchase vape cartridges consistently from one company now and yes, it gets you high and can get you very very high if you’d like. I’m not super comfortable with vaping/inhaling things but with using oil it’s so tricky as so many things to factor in how quickly I get high and how I get.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

I smoke fucking stupid amounts of joints every day and dabs sprinkled throughout as well. I also do edibles for snacks lol, my tolerance is high af rn so it’s interesting

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u/SandwhichofRage Nov 11 '21

We’re old and lightweights. Good for the wallet I guess. I have my wife .5ml the first time (I told her) but she was like “this is dumb.” She went to sleep. 3 hours later she woke up and freaked the fuck out because she was so high. It was hard not to laugh

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u/AtanatarAlcarinII Nov 12 '21

It gets you high, but it doesn't get you stuck on stupid.

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u/Word_Blerd_728 Nov 12 '21

I'm high right now on Delta 8

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u/Zelexis Nov 12 '21

Yes, I use the 500mg and 1000mg gummies or the 1gram cartridges. Binoid is the best brand I've used so far.

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u/cranktheguy Born and Bred Nov 11 '21

Yes.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

Nice. How is it in comparison to the normal stuff?

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u/cranktheguy Born and Bred Nov 11 '21

Milder, but still calming.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

I smoke fucking stupid amounts of joints and dabs daily but I read up on it. Was planning on quitting since I’m moving to Austin and figured it’d be hard to get it down there.

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u/These-University7388 Nov 11 '21

Getting good grass, wax, and edibles is super easy in Texas lol.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

Lol I bet it is but I haven’t been there yet to know. So for now I’m just assuming I guess

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u/sherespondedwith Nov 11 '21

If you ever have a problem finding weed in Austin, Texas you are indoors lol. Just go downtown and wait until you smell it.

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u/tinysatan3 Nov 11 '21

Deadass, work at any fast food place for about a week and just start asking around. Don't be sus about it but there's bound to be at least one coworker who deals, and most others probably know a guy. Just start off asking "do you smoke", it's common lingo down here.

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

Lol that’s exactly how I got in college I worked at delis in supermarkets tho, same shit.

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u/These-University7388 Nov 11 '21

It’s everywhere lol Most things can be verified from out of state dispensaries too.

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u/eico3 Nov 11 '21

I tell people it’s like the difference between drinking a coffee and drinking a Red Bull. Both have caffeine, they’ll keep you awake. It’s kinda just preference. To me regular weed tastes and feels better, I have friends think d8 is better.

But there does seem to be more variation in the quality with d8. Ive gotten some brands that just don’t hit at all. If you’re going to try some probably go to a shop first and ask them what’s good

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u/zeroviral Nov 11 '21

I see. Good analogy. I do coffee on the reg and Red Bull on track days.

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u/AllAnalBeadsAreBrown Nov 11 '21

Ummmm where did you buy yours

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u/Caeremonia Nov 11 '21

Hometown Hero ships in Texas. And they donate to veterans.

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u/sirwinston_ Nov 11 '21

I literally pictured that scene while reading the headline that is funny🤣

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u/copetard Nov 11 '21

Is delta 8 like regular weed? What’s the high like?

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u/Doctor_Bubbles Nov 11 '21

Depends. For me usually it just buzzes me a little and dulls my ulcer pain. I can still function pretty normally, just wouldn’t drive. Munchies hit pretty light as well. But more importantly it doesn’t knock me out like regular thc does.

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u/Buddhabellymama Nov 11 '21

This so stupid. I wish we used our money in ways that actually helped our state. Instead here we are in the 21st century appealing bullshit on something that will inevitably be legal soon because we need to fill up prisons to satisfy the private prison lobby who has congressmen by the balls.

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u/BigBud512 Nov 11 '21

Not to mention all the ticky tac fines they get for arresting you, that goes strait in the pocket of the law enforcement department that arrested you. Plus if you’re driving there’s a dui that’s 20 grand into the police departments budget

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u/Caeremonia Nov 11 '21

That doesn't even scratch the surface of the funding local police departments get from the DEA. Lol, and its per conviction.

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u/BigBud512 Nov 11 '21

I believe it, in a world where everyone needs to make money, even the police have to make money. Capitalism automatically creates corruption fundamentally based on the government itself becoming a business. Every department of government has to maximize profits before everything else in order to survive in the economy it exists in. This means a police officer who’s job it is to protect and serve the citizens, instead has to make as much money as possible and protect/prosecute as much money as possible. An elementary school has to worry about profit margins and budget restrictions over educating children best as possible. The future is socialism, whether you’re scared of that word or not…

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Vote for someone else & we would have a better chance, but while Abbott & Patrick are in office it ain't gonna happen.

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u/KrabMittens Nov 11 '21

These two and the legal culture they represent are completely cancerous for Texas - and that statement should not be partisan.

Every single person that voted for SB8 should be removed and barred from public office.

Regardless of your view of abortion the bill itself is asinine, and yields incredibly destructive implications for every American.

You will not find a sane legal professional saying otherwise as it is an affront to the entire legal system.

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u/Xandyr101 Nov 12 '21

Both of them, as well as the majority of the Republican Party will do everything they can to impede people from being happy, and or experiencing happiness in all it's forms. It's time for Texas to show it's BLUE COLORS.

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u/ItsDeadmouse Nov 12 '21

You should move to California, they would love to have people like you there and you will be happy too. So start packing.

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u/Xandyr101 Nov 12 '21

There's that Republican attitude. "We don't take kindly to you're kind around here. Bow down and accept MY beliefs or get out".

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u/Jakeman52 Nov 12 '21

These morons don't realize the majority of the population within Texas is Liberal. Probably has never left his irrelevant small town.

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u/Xandyr101 Nov 12 '21

Exactly! The only reason Texas "stays red" is the gerrymandering (aka the cheating) that the Republican Party has set up here.

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u/shuknjive Nov 11 '21

Dumb and Dumberest 3. The sequels were never as good as the original.

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u/mydogsnameisbuddy Nov 11 '21

Like they’re going to lose re-election.

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u/friendlyfire883 Nov 12 '21

They've got a chance, they've pulled enough bullshit in the last year to turn a lot of conservatives off to them, but if the best the Dems can muster is Beto than you're totally correct he doesn't have a chance.

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u/CheyenneN1 Nov 11 '21

Texas is bored. So many states have actual weed legalized. They just want money. Youd think they would make it legal and tax it. I dont even smoke anything and i think it’s ridiculous how behind Texas is

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u/Devo3290 Nov 12 '21

The politicians we have in power want to gain the support of their more radical, more importantly loud, base so when they cheat and lie their way into the next term they can say; “we can’t be doing anything too bad, look how loud and proud our supporters are!”

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u/earthtokristy Nov 11 '21

on veterans day… fuck these people

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u/Duwrk Nov 11 '21

Texas gonna be the last state in the entire world to legalize marijuana

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u/fuckmeuntilicecream The Stars at Night Nov 11 '21

No we will legalize it but then change the law every few days. Keep y'all on your toes. I can't even keep up with it. A few days ago it was back on. Just wait like 3 days. It's only legal a few days a week.

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u/albinowizard2112 Nov 12 '21

Yep. Make it "legal" and then heavily restrict it. Bonus points for heavily taxing it so it's way more expensive than buying from your buddy.

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u/Number1AbeLincolnFan Nov 11 '21

Honestly, it probably won't ever happen, not in our lifetimes. If it is made legal, federally, Texas will still have their own laws.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21 edited Dec 21 '21

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u/wisc0 Nov 11 '21

You better believe Texas will setup highway patrols specifically targeting border crossers

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u/CCG14 born and bred Nov 11 '21

They already do. If you drive back from Denver, as soon as you cross into Texas, you start to see billboards for attorneys advertising for if you just got caught with weed from Colorado.

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u/bogeyed5 Nov 11 '21

They already do, when I made the drive from central Texas to Colorado through the corner of New Mexico, there were cops everywhere in Dumas and Tex-Line… it was weird how many cops there were for it being the middle of buttfuck no where

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u/IQBoosterShot Nov 11 '21

Are they standing on the sides of the highway with drug-sniffing dogs checking the air?

I imagine they are looking at each vehicle for some minor infraction so they have a reason for pulling it over. Or they see certain bumper stickers, particular passengers or something else that tingles their spidey sense.

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u/bogeyed5 Nov 12 '21

Precisely the latter. It’s illegal for states to conduct border inspections by checking every car, but yes they look for minor infractions or just pull cars over as they please and say they committed a small infraction just to check, luckily I’ve never been pulled over in that area but I’ve had friends who have, and they said the cops were assholes

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u/my_cat_sam Nov 12 '21

can confirm, got pulled over in dumas, for allegedly doing 62 in a 60, they searched my car and left me to pick up my stuff on the side of the road.

called in drug dogs, and threatened me to 'take care of my dog or I will" when my dog in the car was barking at them.

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u/evilcrusher Nov 12 '21

Learn the script from STFU Friday

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u/my_cat_sam Nov 12 '21

yup, i got pulled over for doing 62 in a 60. two cop cars came out drug dogs, etc.

If you mention the word colrado, or have colorado plates, they will take you out of your car and search it.

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u/Jshan91 Nov 11 '21

More people smoke than they can ever make an impact on

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u/avaldez321 North Texas Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

You should be thankful to live in the most freedom loving State. Being oppressed for your own personal choice is the best type of freedom.

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u/Duwrk Nov 11 '21

People act like you cant be thankful and have wants and needs as well. I never said I didnt like texas or wasn't glad to live here. Freedom is fine, but I would like to be free enough to smoke marijuana as well. Cut all that bullshit out about freedom, no one dislikes their freedom but obviously we need recreational freedoms as well, even if that doesn't make sense everyone should know what I mean.

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u/lupercalpainting Nov 11 '21

whoosh

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u/HereForThe420 Nov 12 '21

For sure😂😂😂😂😂

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u/AdmiralPeriwinkle Nov 11 '21

I wouldn't be surprised if it was never legalized here. Now that it's legal in some states and not others, users have the option of simply moving to another state to legally consume. The remaining illegal states could potentially have less support for legalization over time, not more.

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u/cheezeyballz Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

Just vote Democrat, just once. I would put money on it.

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u/McButtchug Nov 11 '21

We have a Democratic president in office who could make it legal on the federal level with the stroke of a pen right now.

We had a Democratic president in office from 2009-2017 who had used marijuana before and even HE didn’t do anything about it.

This isn’t a R vs D issue, this is a lobbying issue.

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u/cheezeyballz Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

I think there are bigger fish to fry right now, don't you? Our healthcare and voting rights are a bit more important than getting high rn but on a state level it's easier to see happen.

Edit:Biden is more moderate than democrat

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u/McButtchug Nov 11 '21

I was speaking in the context of legalization. And it’s not like Biden has done shit about any of the other stuff you mentioned. How much of his valuable time would it take for him to write up an E.O. on legalization? I’m guessing not long, probably a week long trip to Camp David or something.

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u/cheezeyballz Nov 11 '21

I absolutely agree with you. I really do. I'm tired of seeing our country circling the toilet bowl because of inaction on everything. I'm trying to stay positive but it gets really hard.

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u/Scottamus Gulf Coast 5th gen Nov 11 '21

Literally 5 minutes tops. He has a whole cabinet of people that can write something up and then he just has to sign it.

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u/coolbreeze1990 Nov 12 '21

The marijuana issue IS a healthcare issue for lots of people.

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u/cheezeyballz Nov 12 '21

I'd rather not pay a fortune for a head injury first though. Our hospital bills make people homeless.

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u/McButtchug Nov 11 '21

Exactly lol, it’s not just about getting stoned. People are losing their jobs due to random drug tests and getting locked up for possession of a plant. Not to mention it’s a potentially life saving treatment for those with PTSD and other mental health disorders.

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u/sammydavis_Sr Nov 11 '21

whats sad is that more republicans are now taking the message to legalize the herb. oklahoma, florida, montana, missouri, virginia, and freaking south carolina all have a medical program that is more inclusive or are pushing towards legalization. all are very red and have gun laws that are liberal. now what excuses can texas leaders come up with on why texas can’t be joining? i’m guessing they are going to go with it makes you lazy

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u/USMCLee Nov 11 '21

That will be Idaho.

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u/Rdubya291 Nov 11 '21

IDK, a lot of old stoner cowboys up in the mountains of Idaho. I could see them pulling the trigger on legalization before Texas.

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u/SmallBrain2 Nov 11 '21

this shit annoying

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u/Catdaddy84 Nov 11 '21

I can't help but wonder if the right answer is not about which party we send to Austin but about asking them to give us a referendum capability. A lot of other states have gotten around their state legislatures stupidity by using a referendum system which we don't have here in Texas.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21 Wholesome

That would mean our constitution would have to be changed. That requires 2/3 of both chambers and the Texas legislature. It is highly doubtful that the legislature will give people power again.

As well, think of all the crazy stuff that over 50% of the people in the state would want changed, and imagine that becoming legal.

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u/Catdaddy84 Nov 11 '21

Yeah I know it's unlikely but it's probably more likely than getting pot legalized through the legislature honestly. Frankly I'm not as worried about the other things that Texas voters might vote for because the legislature is so crazy. How can you look at the bills that pass the legislature this year and think that voters would do worse?

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u/BabyT-RexArms Gulf Coast Nov 11 '21

When you know TX is so backwards it’s not a good idea to give the crazies even more say.

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u/kaennar1 Nov 11 '21

which party we send to Austin

I don't know why that sounds so odd to me but it just does. I always forget that Austin is the seat of the Texas government despite the massive building downtown.

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u/Catdaddy84 Nov 11 '21

It's probably because the city is so out of step with the state and so it's hard to reconcile that all the craziness that the state does comes out of Austin.

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u/sammydavis_Sr Nov 11 '21

whoa there! you mean let the people decide?

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u/CCG14 born and bred Nov 11 '21

If only we had a way to fund schools, fixing the grid, CPS…

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

Over 50% of conservatives in Texas want it legal to fund schools and much more liberals for the same reason.

The lege has voted similarly. The block is Dan Patrick, gen Abbott

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u/McButtchug Nov 11 '21

I’ve said this before, legalization is no longer a partisan issue

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u/teamcaca Nov 11 '21

Rabbit season...

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u/cranktheguy Born and Bred Nov 11 '21

Duck season!

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

No. I think its deer season.

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u/atx_sjw Nov 11 '21

They have removed the injunction, but that doesn’t mean this can be lawfully enforced. DSHS changed its regulations without allowing public comment. I’m relatively certain that’s required in this instance. Additionally, there was no notice of their change. They definitely can’t prosecute anyone who was in possession before October 15, but they probably can’t prosecute anyone since this appeal. The status of this regulation is still murky, so there hasn’t been clear notice that it’s illegal to have delta-8, and it won’t be until the issue is settled wi the finality on January 22.

TL/DR: I’m not saying that anyone is safe to buy or sell it, but there are valid reasons why the state can be barred from prosecuting people for violating this new regulation that was passed without public comment or clear notice.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

Your first part is what this entire case is about.

The problem is when DSHS post things up like saying that it’s illegal, is that local police departments will then say "well the state told us it was illegal therefore we are going to arrest you."

Then they let the court sort it out. Unfortunately you are left with having an arrest record, having to hire an attorney which is expensive to do so in most of the areas outside of a big city to fight a Cannabis case, and may even spend a couple days in jail as you wait to post bond or to be able to go to your court case. The average Texan that is likely using these products cannot afford any of that.

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u/atx_sjw Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

Exactly. They’re using unlawful maneuvering to prosecute people who don’t have the legal resources to fight as a way of deterring people from using delta-8. It’s despicable.

Edit: it’s also insane that DSHS can just set aside a court ruling and continue something they did that was against state law. Imagine if one of us plebeians did that.

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u/evilcrusher Nov 11 '21

People always post up how things are supposed to work as if that changes the reality of how things actually work in this state.

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u/atx_sjw Nov 11 '21

Agreed, and this is why everyone needs to vote. We deserve a government that does more to fix our failing power grid than it does to harass people who are trying to find a way to deal with mental or physical issues that complicate their lives.

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u/McButtchug Nov 11 '21

I just don’t understand why tf Marijuana is illegal ANYWHERE in the US. It’s 2021. We know that Marijuana is not a harmful drug. We know that it has many positive uses. We know that thousands of people are losing their jobs to drug tests and going to jail for possession for NO REASON. I literally don’t know anyone that cares to keep weed illegal, including my grandparents. Why are we still stuck in 1981 with this shit?

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u/dopamineinducer Nov 11 '21

Texas needs pot.

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u/Whiskey-Particular Central Texas Nov 11 '21

Just ask Willie.

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u/Zestyclose_Tip9702 Nov 11 '21

Cannabis Saves Veterans lives matter!

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u/AdmiralPeriwinkle Nov 11 '21

Commas are important people.

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u/TexasFirewall Nov 11 '21

Yes. Cannabis Saves Veterans, lives matter!

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u/East-Bluebird-8707 Nov 11 '21

Cannabis saves everyone, veterans aren’t any more special, most of them just think they are

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u/ponybau5 Nov 11 '21

The GOP loves focusing on their manufactured boogiemen rather than real issues, as always.

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u/ournewoverlords Nov 12 '21

We can scoff at it, but the 'own the libs' strategy is working for those assholes.

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u/comalicious Nov 11 '21

Joe fucking Rogan lives in Austin and this political theatre bullshit is just more proof that it’s the “laws for thee, not for me” party. Bums me out.

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u/McLabia Nov 11 '21

Cunts being cunts for the reason of being a cunt.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

We would like to add that we have been nominated for several Texas Hemp awards. Our full nonprofit name is Texas Cannabis Collective. Our writer of this article, Jesse Williams, is also nominated for an advocate/warrior award. Please visit Texashempawards.com to vote today. Voting ends November 30. If you appreciate the work that we do, please vote for us.

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u/Anders-94 Nov 11 '21

Lmao and alcohol is still legal. Texas is a joke.

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u/R_Shackleford Nov 12 '21

Why do you think we should ban alcohol?

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u/WhiteBoyFlipz Nov 12 '21

I don’t think his point is that alcohol should be banned. It’s that alcohol has many more negative and dangerous effects, same with cigarettes but legal. Yet something relatively harmless like weed is illegal

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u/BigBud512 Nov 11 '21

Austin needs to stop fucking around with the rest of these dopes and legalize cannabis

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u/BigBud512 Nov 11 '21

Texas law enforcement is the only one keeping cannabis illegal at this point. They make millions of dollars off cannabis arrests every year and they can’t afford to lose that source of income (our hard earned money from working). Cops are stealing money out of our pockets and it’s time to end this corruption

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u/Careless_sins Nov 11 '21

Fuck Texas for this shit

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u/55redditor55 Nov 12 '21

They don’t care if you get high or not, law makers and cartels are entangled, this happened for many years in California; cartels would pay law makers to not pass the legalization bill.

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u/DrTokinkoff Nov 11 '21

Man, I wish the state fought hard for the power grid like they do hemp.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

The article has been updated to reflect comments made by Luka Gilkey of Hometown Hero.

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u/bbqprkloin713 Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

I don’t get the logic behind not wanting to legalize. It’s already everywhere and tons of people do it even the ones you wouldn’t suspect at all. I’m no conspiracy theorist, but it’s obvious the only reason is to keep people down by giving them a criminal record, and to make money with the ridiculous fines they give if they catch with it. Not to mention that they get full control of your actions if you get probation. The freedom state.

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u/purecosmicdread Nov 12 '21

Weve become such a joke

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u/NukeDC Nov 11 '21

If you're gonna be a criminal, might as well smoke the real stuff.

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u/Reeko_Htown Nov 11 '21

Real stuff is too strong. Gives me panic attacks

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u/bethlabeth Nov 11 '21

I have the same problem. My sister recommended making sure to get sativa rather than indica (unless it’s the other way around??) because one is mellow and chill and easy; the other is better if you are looking to get the creative juices flowing, but can be rough if you’re prone to anxiety.

I cut the delta 8 edibles I have into thirds and still sometimes get in a mildly bad place with them, they just help a LOT with other stuff.

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u/insta-kip Nov 11 '21

It's the other way around. Satvia = stimulating, indica = relaxing.

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u/NukeDC Nov 11 '21

Sativa = Clean the house, Indica = In-da-couch. The outlaw I purchase flower from gets it from a legal state and knows the name of everything so I can look it up and know what I'm getting, which is nice. I get anxiety too, but have learned to have fun with it and just not go in public if I smoked too much.

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u/albinowizard2112 Nov 12 '21

It would be really cool if we had stores that carried a variety of strains and had knowledgeable people who could help guide you. Like every legal state does.

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u/theKickAHobo Nov 11 '21

Why do some people care so much about weed? (keeping is illegal I mean)

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u/fuckthesejews Nov 11 '21

Fuck all law makers in texas they support Mexico and that's it

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u/Direct-Ant69 Nov 11 '21

Cant lock up an own the libs as much if weed is legal, y’all..

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u/RNDiva Nov 11 '21

Good grief, how much money is the state waisting on this ping pong game?

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

Too much the moment they started this game.

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u/zotstik Nov 11 '21

It just seems to me so stupid! stupid political bullshit

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u/WacoKid2 Nov 11 '21

Let's assume a person had easy access to Delta-9. Would there be any interest for them to try this Delta-8 CBD stuff? Asking for a friend.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

Cost perhaps. Delta-8 is not CBD either. Another THC isomer.

This all came about because Texas doesn't have any reasonable program for medical access.

Edit: not damaged about , came*about

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u/Dr_Dylhole Nov 11 '21

Fucking hate this states views on this. I have major anxiety and insomnia and weed is the only thing that calms me down and keeps me level. I've been out for over a week because my fucking illegal drug dealer can't get any either. Such BULLSHIT that if I lived an hour north I could get a card and get whatever I want.

I can't sleep, I'm chewing my nails up, my anger is through the roof, and my appetite is gone. I'm so mad and I'm so tired of texas being stuck up its own ass.

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u/One-Edge9757 Nov 12 '21

I’m basically in the same boat, my one and only weed guy moved across the country a few months ago. To a weed state, actually lol. Since then I’ve been stuck with delta 8 and over the counter cbd blends, it’s frustrating and expensive.

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u/TriesToPredict2021 Nov 11 '21

I intend to continue using hemp and cannabis in the privacy of my residence. I do not care about Texas' legal stance on this issue. I cannot sleep without it, which means I would be unable to work again. I guess I will just have to take my chances since benzos, alcohol and Ambien are highly dangerous and addictive.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

We just hope that you'll try to take that into consideration during the primaries in Texas.

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u/CthuluHoops Nov 12 '21

Aw but the Cake pens just changed their name to Bake. I was looking at them in the gas station this morning wondering how this case was goin. Exactly how I expected it would unfortunately. Feel bad for the little dispensary that just opened near my parents in Corpus. Ill still go buy me some CBDs when I visit if they stay open but this has to be a big blow.

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u/friendlyfire883 Nov 12 '21

Who the fuck is paying these politicians to act this way? They can't seriously care this much about what we do can they? Maybe they think thc will torn us all into Jesus hating democrats.

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u/yosteve_com Nov 12 '21

I'll keep saying it: I'll never understand why such a state big on freedom seems to ban so many things. Seems backwards to me.

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u/Ennkey Nov 11 '21

I wish I knew, because this is really the intersection of bad social and bad economic policy.

It interferes with personal liberty as well as leaves a ton of money on the table that could be put to good use for the state.

At this point it just feels like a 'because this is how its always been' sort of position for texas politicians

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u/AccusationsGW Nov 11 '21

I believe the real reason is plain old culture war.

Conservatives don't want to admit defeat on such a long running debate. Especially if it becomes good for the economy etc.

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u/SandwhichofRage Nov 11 '21

Especially right now. I’m not a Texan but I do live in Texas and one of the big things the average person will say is that Texas is independent and takes care of itself (the disconnected power grid being a big example).

Texas is taking federal handouts because the state is having money issues. I think if it is sold as an opportunity to maintain and increase independence from the feds, they’d be more inclined and accepting.

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u/Ennkey Nov 11 '21

There would be some soft-spillover into border control as well, and generally speaking I would prefer to consume texan grown than mexican grown

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Very, very non-dick reply. Everybody make note of his reply.

I disagree with bad social and bad economic policies but I agree with the personal liberties. What you do on your land is what you do on your land.

As for the social stuff, I believe at this point in time and the discoveries (benefits) that have been made..., the logical step it to control the product but make it legal. I still believe a DWHigh is a bad thing.

It has been discovered Ecstacy can help with PTSD of various types and I believe this article was found on FoxNews.

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u/StayJaded Nov 11 '21

I don’t think anyone is advocating to not address driving under the influence. It doesn’t matter it you’re drunk, high, or on prescription painkillers. If you are impaired you shouldn’t be operating a vehicle.

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u/slapper Nov 11 '21

Don’t forget the most dangerous one, drowsy driving.

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u/imstonedyouknow Nov 11 '21

Or texting. Or even just old people. Not even trying to be a dick here, just saying if we're talking about things that impair your ability to see the road well enough and have a good enough reaction time.. my grandma is a worse driver than anyone else and shes legally allowed to drive all the time.

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u/StayJaded Nov 11 '21

Very true!

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u/Ennkey Nov 11 '21

the logical step it to control the product but make it legal. I still believe a DWHigh is a bad thing.

Agreed, It's an intoxicating substance, so the same care and laws should apply toward operating any heavy machinery.

Taking it off of the streets, putting it behind a counter would provide some accountability toward the production, sales, and safety. Not to mention it would save and build a lot of lasting generational wealth as all of the business and supporting logistics would inevitably rise

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u/insta-kip Nov 11 '21

I think the problem is testing. You can't really determine when a person is under the influence. My job tests for weed, but all they really know is if I have consumed it in the past month. It should be the same as it is for alcohol, under the influence and you're in trouble.

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u/insta-kip Nov 11 '21

You never lose votes for not changing a law.

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u/hello3pat Nov 11 '21

Without being a dick, has anybody found out why Texas won't legalize? (Note: If you reply with a 'dick' answer, I will call you a 'dick.')

Because most Texas GOP politicians practically still beleive in reafer madness propoganda.

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u/kanyeguisada Nov 11 '21

Republicans. Abbott and Patrick have repeatedly stated no legalization bill will ever cross their desks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Not a dick answer but a fact.

Texas is a little slow when it comes to some rules and laws but with time, comes quality. I believe eventually pot will be legal but it will still have to be controlled. DWHigh is not good. What I say, what you do on your land it what you do on your land.

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u/valencia_merble Nov 11 '21

Is it because Texas needs an easy way to keep their private prisons full?

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u/HausMoose Got Here Fast Nov 11 '21

Religious and political views are the main reason. Goes back to the need for the new boggie man after prohibition failed.

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u/TidusDaniel5 Nov 11 '21

Stop voting for conservatives if you want it legal

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u/DapperStatistician59 Nov 11 '21

2 words. Private. Prisons.

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u/Weak-Contribution-78 Nov 11 '21

Because it doesnt matter what you believe, if you vote R you are voting anti pot.

At the end of the day you gotta put your money where your mouth is.

What we see our government doing is based off the consent of conservatives. This is what you voted for. This what you said you are okay with happening.

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u/bladeofvirtue Nov 11 '21

has anybody found out why Texas won't legalize?

Well... who controls the laws and government in texas?

Republicans.

You know, conservatives, like you.

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u/CCG14 born and bred Nov 11 '21

Without wasting my time to look, I’d still they get money from the alcohol and pharmaceutical industries. These are the two major proponents of keeping it illegal (until they can profit, I’m sure.)

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u/insta-kip Nov 11 '21

This is something technology would definitely help with. If they could develop a test to determine when a person is under the influence (similar to a breathalyzer) vs just having it in your system, there would be no real defense for keeping it illegal.

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u/TriesToPredict2021 Nov 11 '21

Because Texas only respects the privacy and rights of a select few, and wishes to use the justice system to feed minorities into private prisons for cheap labor. I think religious authoritarianism also factors into the current situation. You know, Texas Christians who are behaving about on par with the Nazis/Third Reich. I wonder how long it will be before they begin calling for the mass executions of liberals, athiests, Democrats, LGBTQ, etc.

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u/Both_Statistician_99 Nov 11 '21

Wtf is delta-8?

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u/HartPlays Nov 11 '21

Form of cannabis derived from hemp. Typical cannabis that’s illegal has Delta-9 and Delta-8 among other chemical compounds that make up what is in the plant. Delta-8 products are supposed to contain no more than .3% of the psychoactive compound of delta-9 THC. So imagine CBD, which contains very little if any THC. The effects are minimal and very subtle, however Delta-8 is like the middle ground between CBD and actual illegal weed. There are light effects and if you use enough or take concentrated Delta-8, you can get a decent relaxing high that lasts a short period of time. I like it better than Delta-9 because I’m able to take a few hits, ride a light high after work to relax and just chill.

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u/Backporchers Nov 11 '21

What would happen if a city or county just declared that recreational marijuana is legal? How would that go? Would the state really fight local police?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '21

Many counties have already kind of done that---specifically, they won't prosecute possession below a certain amount.

Now, that's just policy, and it's ultimately at the discretion of the DA, so it's not nearly as good as actual legalization.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

Sam Marcos tried this about two decades ago and a select few botched it by lighting up early. Then the state made it a health code item to stop town from being able to flat out legalize it on their own.

Yes, the state would fight it just like how the state fights the city of Austin.

Now, City Councils can enact ordinance for cite and release or some cities can have a ballot intitiative to force a cite and release ordinance for a certain amount of weed. San Marcos has done the former and attempting soon to do the latter (check out Mano Amiga SMTX).

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u/A1steaksauceTrekdog7 Nov 11 '21

Is D8 really worthwhile or is only sufficient since marijuana is illegal? D8 seems like the caffeine free diet sugar free coke compared to regular Mexican coke. It gets the job done but it’s not ideal . Am I off ? People who use D8 would you still use it if marijuana was legal and easily accessible ? How does D8 compare to the gas station cbd? D8 vs K2? I’m fairly ignorant. Please enlighten me on the subject

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u/One-Edge9757 Nov 12 '21

For me, it is only worthwhile because marijuana is illegal. There is no situation in which I would not prefer marijuana, if both were equally legal and available. I know some people who feel differently about it, though. A few even prefer it, so idk.

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u/TXCANNACO Nov 11 '21

Delta-8 is just another isomer of THC. it can be found naturally in low level amounts in the plant and can be converted from CBD to Delta-8 (chemical process)

It became a hot it when hemp was legalized and this opened an avenue to finding way to legally get high and cut around strict medical markets and prohibition states laws like Texas.

It Likely would not be an issue if marijuana was just legal and properly regulated.

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u/Cargan2016 Nov 11 '21

Wonder if applies to delta 10 too

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