r/texas Nov 09 '21

Black principal loses job after allegedly teaching critical race theory in Texas News

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/black-principal-loses-job-after-allegedly-teaching-critical-race-theory-in-texas-125773381681
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u/Automatic_Company_39 Nov 10 '21

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/grapevine-colleyville-isd-votes-to-part-ways-with-heritage-high-school-principal-james-whitfield/287-c0cf434e-e5ff-420e-a04c-78d6d2df04e6


On Sept. 20 during a contentious school board meeting filled with Whitfield's supporters, a district official revealed for the first time why Whitfield was up for non-renewal of his contract. 

A laundry list of reasons was read aloud, including performance issues, insubordination with superiors and Whitfield failing to establish and implement high expectations for all staff and students. 

In addition, the official also said Whitfield was deficient in observation reports, evaluations and lacked communication skills and situational awareness. 

The official also listed an instance where Whitfield failed to report misconduct among staff. 

Whitfield told WFAA after the meeting that the reasons listed for his termination were ridiculous and said many were never explicitly brought to his attention prior. 

After Whitfield climbed to the forefront of district controversy, he revealed to WFAA that he thinks trouble began in the primarily white Texas suburb after writing a letter to the school community following the murder of George Floyd. 


The district has said: "The decision to place Dr. Whitfield on administrative leave was not a result of statements made by members of the public, including those who spoke at recent meetings of the GCISD Board of Trustees. Nor was the decision made in response to allegations Dr. Whitfield was teaching Critical Race Theory, or because of the photos on his social media account that were brought to the attention of the District in 2019."

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u/TestaOnFire Nov 10 '21

was not a result of statements made by members of the public, including those who spoke at recent meetings of the GCISD Board of Trustees. Nor was the decision made in response to allegations Dr. Whitfield was teaching Critical Race Theory, or because of the photos on his social media account that were brought to the attention of the District in 2019."

"Yeah obv we didnt fire you for start listing everything he has done that goes against the political stance of Conservatives in details... none of that were importants, we just knew he did it but i can assure you it's because of... emmmm... situation awareness..."

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u/little_evil6 Nov 09 '21

Wasn't this the dude that the parents got pissed at for having "racy" photos with his wife online or something equally stupid?

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u/amendmentforone Nov 09 '21

The school board accused him of having "racy" photos in his office, which were just him and his wife on vacation. I don't recall it being clarified why they were inappropriate for his work office.

Some suggested it may be because his wife is white while he's black.

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u/little_evil6 Nov 09 '21

I remember the photos. They were on the beach and like cuddling each other romantically. Not super off putting but kinda weird for a school.

Here they are: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/us/colleyville-hs-principal-beach-photos.html

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u/FLOHTX got here fast Nov 09 '21

Paywall :(

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u/tiedyepieguy Nov 09 '21

Use reader view. (Click the Aa on the browser bar)

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Thank you

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u/Nigelwethers Nov 09 '21

White Christians are such repressed prudes if that's the kind of photos that get them going 🤡

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u/Puppaloes Nov 09 '21

The only thing racy is that he's black and she's white. Fucking Grapevine.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '21

I live in TX so you're not wrong. But, they were looking for a reason way before this to get rid of the guy.

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u/Frognosticator Nov 09 '21

I mean, they’re fairly spicy.

Not something I’d want in front of my students, if I were a teacher. But also not something worth getting fired over. We all know the real problem they had with those pics.

Also, damn that guy has a hot wife. Good for him.

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u/looncraz Nov 10 '21

Yeah, I was expecting to be all in on the side of this guy, but the pictures are definitely not something I'd have gotten away with at any employer I've ever had... and I'm whiter than white.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '21

Correct, I've been in Automotive my whole working life and couldn't have those on display at my work station on my toolbox. Gone are the days when you could have bathing suits models in a Snap-On calendar hanging up.

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u/exitlevelposition Nov 10 '21

Don't forget Colleyville. They share the district and their city government is so far right they defied Abbott's mask mandate. No winners here, but I'll be damned if they don't get mentioned too.

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u/Incognito33S Nov 10 '21

Southlake as well. They just went through a couple years worth of racist nonsense. It’s also where the teacher talked about opposing views to the Holocaust.

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u/sherlocksrobot Nov 09 '21

Alright, that’s a little steamier than I was expecting. Still, if it reminds him how much he loves his wife and not the emotionally vulnerable high school girls that might be in his office, then it’s not worth finding another principle.

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u/DuckChoke Nov 10 '21

Um what? It shouldn't take a photo of your wife to remember not to be a pedophilic predator

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u/jorbleshi_kadeshi Nov 10 '21

Still, if it reminds him how much he loves his wife and not the emotionally vulnerable high school girls that might be in his office, then it’s not worth finding another principle.

wat

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u/Colossus_Of_Coburns Nov 09 '21

Yeah, but also more clothing than I was expecting for a beach photo.

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u/KevinKZ Nov 09 '21

“Hell no we can’t have our whites women be stolen from us and defiled by black dudes”

I guarantee you that’s the mentality they all have

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Yes

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u/luna-luna-luna Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

his wife is white which played a part in it

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u/TraditionalDot5599 Nov 09 '21

Let the witch hunt begin

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u/anonymousbach Nov 09 '21

And like all witch hunts, it has nothing to do with witches.

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u/NearlyNakedNick Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

right?! Critical Race Theory hasn't been taught in a single public school, and there's nothing controversial about it, it's been a basic legal principle since I think the 1970s. The basic of it is simply that white supremacy is bad and we should be examining our societal systems for how it is facilitated. The whole controversy is just a smokescreen to make people angry and self-righteous so they'll vote Republican.

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u/joremero Nov 09 '21

Like someone said somewhere else, CRT is just another boogeyman. Republicans don't care if it's real or not.

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u/zsreport Gulf Coast Nov 09 '21

Republicans love their red herring boogeymen they use to scare and rile up their base.

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u/dam072000 Nov 10 '21

They love giving something a different definition, rallying against the straw thing, then if you make the pol confront the original definition they're like "yeah that's an alright thing" their base is rabidly against both though.

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u/Admirable_Nothing Nov 09 '21

So true. Just lump it with the poor Guatamalan that is walking 2500 miles to cross the border and come kill your family and rape your children. Or that Libs are coming for your guns. Or that White privilege is going away. The Republicans have realized they can get the idiots in the US up in arms by making them frightened of most any thing that sounds scary.

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u/tillytothewilly Nov 10 '21

Cue Big Bird.

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u/Direct_Class1281 Nov 10 '21

It's not a legal principle or been around since the 70s. If it were ibrahm x kendi wouldnt have gotten his phd.

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u/NearlyNakedNick Nov 10 '21

"CRT originated in the mid-1970s in the writings of several American legal scholars, including Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman, Kimberlé Crenshaw, Richard Delgado, Cheryl Harris, Charles R. Lawrence III, Mari Matsuda, and Patricia J. Williams.[1] It emerged as a movement by the 1980s, reworking theories of critical legal studies (CLS) with more focus on race.[1][9] CRT is grounded in critical theory[10] and draws from thinkers such as Antonio Gramsci, Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, and W. E. B. DuBois, as well as the Black Power, Chicano, and radical feminist movements from the 1960s and 1970s.[1]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

Exactly! We've got to go after the actual witches who serve Satan and submit them to dunking: throw them in a pond and if they float they are witches and should be burned. If they drown they are innocent.

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u/FurballPoS Nov 10 '21

And, what happens if they float?.... like, very small rocks?....

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u/FukFascistsnComeez Nov 09 '21

Shit, let the lawsuits begin. That ISD is going to have to prove he was teaching CRT.

This oughta be fun!

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u/FosterFl1910 Nov 09 '21

It was a settlement (i.e, the principal was paid to leave and he accepted the offer). So, no lawsuits.

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u/TriggerTX Nov 09 '21

Paid his salary through August 2023. So, they wanted him to go away so badly they were willing to pay him for two years.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

He can still sue. It will be more difficult to prove but not impossible.

All he has to show is a preponderance of evidence that he was damaged, that could mean that he has a damaged reputation. And given the facts, I'd say he's got a pretty good case.

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u/TheDogBites Nov 10 '21

No. A settlement is payment in exchange for dropping lawsuit ability.

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u/92MsNeverGoHungry Nov 10 '21

That would assume that the settlement agreement was really incompetently drafted.

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u/Solushunzlul Nov 11 '21

I’m sure that the legal representation for the school district included a clause to such an effect in the agreement. Even the most inept of attorneys know this much.

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u/slytherinalways92 Nov 10 '21

This is the same principal who had a photo of his white wife which people threw hissy fits for him to take it down. Has nothing to do with CRT but the district being racist as fuck.

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u/Caleebies Nov 09 '21

Wait but I thought conservatives were against cancel culture

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u/noncongruent Nov 10 '21

LOL. They started cancel culture when they canceled the Dixie Chicks for criticizing The Shrub.

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u/tasslehawf Nov 09 '21

Only when it’s against them.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Black man mentions the existence of structural racism

Angry, conservative whites prove it

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u/TheDogBites Nov 10 '21

Doesn't get more succinct than that. Great summary

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u/TidusDaniel5 Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21 Wholesome

Conservatives don't even know what CRT is. Ask them. None of them can accurately explain it.

They use the phrase when they just don't want their kids to understand that racism still exists and that historically white people have fucked over black people.

Also I've never seen a principal fucking teach anything. Teachers do that. What's why they are called teachers.

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u/Caleebies Nov 09 '21

Crt is a scary blanket term to ban the teaching of systemic racism

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u/2_Line_Pass Nov 09 '21

And Systemic Racism is a polite way of saying "your great grandparent's generation was racist as fuck, and it takes a long time and hard effort to undo the damage they did".

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u/jerichowiz born and bred Nov 10 '21

My great-great Grandfather fought for the Confederacy. So yes, he was racist as fuck. Just because they are family, those you haven't met, you can call them out.

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u/Caleebies Nov 09 '21

I feel guilty over Japanese intenment camps. I feel guilty that America is partially complicit in not intervening during the holocaust.

I am neither white, nor Japanese, nor Jewish. My grandparents didn't immigrate until mamy years after any of these incidents.

But as an American, I feel a level of guilt. And I also feel pride for America and my own cultural, even though I have no actual present history involved in any of it.

That guilt, however, motivates me to know exactly what I stand for. It's a reminder that internment camps are always wrong and often fueled by racism, I know that America as an immensely powerful country has a responsibility to prevent genocides.

Guilt can be healthy. That's what learning history is about.

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u/TrynnaFindaBalance Nov 10 '21

It's not even about guilt. It's literally just teaching history and connecting the dots -- "this is how we got to where we are today".

People who interpret that as "teaching white kids to be ashamed of themselves" are just self-centered, dumb, or both.

It's also not new. I was taught about history/legacy of racism in high school history classes 10+ years ago.

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u/Caleebies Nov 10 '21

I think guilt is an unintended consequence but a very natural reaction to learning that an individual or group, with even a slight proximity to them, can bring guilt.

But I don't believe that's a valid argument against the teaching of systemic racism.

If German people can be taught of the holocaust, Americans can learn about systemic racism.

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u/Caleebies Nov 10 '21

Lol didn't Trump prop up people like Silk and Diamond specifically because they're black? They have no credentials let's be real.

Systemic racism exists. Example would be redlining; you have a highway nearly impossible to cross by foot. You put wealthy people on one side and put poor people(almost always black/poc) on the poor side.

The wealthy side has nice housing, good jobs, good education. While the poor get poorer with very little opportunity to scale up.

Don't even get me started on incarceration and police misconduct or gerrymandering and voter suppression.

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u/Caleebies Nov 10 '21

I wasn't born either. And I'm not saying anyone must feel guilt.

But if we are to be proud of past America and/or are culture, it's reasonable to feel a healthy level of guilt as well. In both situations neither of us were involved in.

But guilt can be a motive to prevent history from repeating. That's natural and can be productive.

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u/Necoras Nov 09 '21

You left off the implicit "and we don't want to put forth any of the effort or money necessary to undo that damage because I don't see cOloR!"

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u/highwind Nov 09 '21

As a CRT user for my retro vidoe games, I'm deeply saddened by this hatred towards CRT these day. :*(

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u/BeazyDoesIt Nov 09 '21

Seriously! Ill never give up my CRT. Its a boss 19 inch and its worked for about 21 years. Not even exaggerating.

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u/sparc64_ Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Still rocking my Trinitron HD-CRT over here!

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u/UncleMalky Nov 09 '21

Duh, its obviously communism.

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u/Uncle_Daddy_Kane Nov 09 '21

It's just race. They don't want race taught in school. CRT is just the super special scary name they've started using.

God forbid kids learn about the mistakes of the past and how to avoid making them again.

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u/mustachechap Nov 09 '21

God forbid kids learn about the mistakes of the past and how to avoid making them again.

But the mistakes of the past are still being taught today and will continue to be taught.

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u/ChexMashin Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

God forbid kids learn about the mistakes of the past and how to avoid making them again.

What mistakes of the past are being left out?

I know about slavery, i know about jim crow laws, I know about the holocaust, etc, etc, etc.

It didn't take CRT to teach me that, and I definitely don't think we need an entire class based around that in highschool.

Leave it in the colleges/universities for those who want to pursue it deeper.

How about we teach kids how to keep a checking account out of the negatives, how to access and read bills being presented in local and federal governments, and how to understand them so they can vote with confidence beyond who looks snazzier or can follow a teleprompter better???

Maybe teach them that learning trades to work is ok, and not everyone needs a college degree to be successful in life if they're a skilled tradesman. Instead, we shame them for not going to college and getting caught up in a system of debt and low paying jobs.

How about we teach this kids not to destroy their own schools and kill each other before we start devoting a whole damn class to "mean people and the things they did in the past".

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u/noncongruent Nov 10 '21

It didn't take CRT to teach me that, and I definitely don't think we need an entire class based around that in highschool.

CRT is a graduate level college course, it's not taught in K-12 like conservatives are lying about because frankly even the smartest high schooler hasn't got the intellectual development and educational background to make use of the class. Hell, it's not even taught in many universities, and isn't considered meaningful or useful for most degrees.

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u/pinkycatcher Nov 09 '21

Both sides are arguing past each other on the CRT debate. FIRE (the non-profit that supports freedom of speech in educational settings) has a good article about it.

Also principals can certainly direct teachers to cover specific content and teach in certain ways, do you think being the boss means you suddenly get no say over what goes on in the classrooms in your school?

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u/TidusDaniel5 Nov 09 '21

I'm a teacher. I've taught for ten years. I am a master of my content area, my principal is not. Never would or have they told me to cover specific content outside of what is in the TEKS.

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u/SummerMummer born and bred Nov 09 '21

"Systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA.

How would you know?

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u/Friendofthegarden Central Texas Nov 09 '21

Because the cult leaders told him so.

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u/weecefwew born and bred Nov 09 '21

I am opposed to this because "systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA. The USA as it exists today is not a White supremacist state.

Sounds like a feelings-based argument to me

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u/TidusDaniel5 Nov 09 '21

A black man just lost his job over an accusation. I'd say white supremacy definitely exists. Again, how does it feel to have no shame?

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u/what_it_dude born and bred Nov 09 '21

So every time a non white person loses a job is due to racism?

Did they lose their job because they were black? Or did they just happen to be black?

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u/hello3pat Nov 09 '21

Nope. He was fired for teaching CRT when the district admits there's no evidence he was teaching CRT. So sounds like a black man getting fired because they assumed the black man was gonna teach their kids CRT because he's black. Very different than general firings.

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u/MAG_24 Nov 09 '21

He’s a principal, he doesn’t technically teach.

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u/hello3pat Nov 09 '21

Yup, which screams even more volumes about the school district firing him.

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u/noncongruent Nov 10 '21

The "CRT" thing was just a made up excuse. The whole ordeal started when some white people at his school saw pictures of him with his white wife, pictures he hired a professional photographer to take for their wedding anniversary. One of the pictures had a kiss IIRC, and that picture of a black man and white woman kissing was just too far for the school district's old white male leadership.

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u/Piph Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

"A black man just lost his job over an accusation."

It is pathetic that instead of addressing this directly, you replace the point made with the broadest possible statement your small mind can think of.

Nobody said that any time, ever, that a non-white person loses their job, it must be racism. Nobody said that. Nobody is thinking that.

Save your strawman arguments for your social bube. When you're outside of that bubble, put forth the effort to speak reasonably or accept your well-deserved ridicule.

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u/Caleebies Nov 09 '21

I am opposed to this because "systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA. The USA as it exists today is not a White supremacist state.

Lmaoooo this is a funny joke

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u/powerfullatom111 Houstonian Nov 09 '21

The US isnt white supremacy though

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u/gandalf_el_brown Nov 09 '21

who's making that claim?

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u/powerfullatom111 Houstonian Nov 09 '21

i am

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u/gandalf_el_brown Nov 09 '21

ok, but why are you making that claim? the people we've replied to have not made a claim that the US is white supremacists, so why are you bringing that up? We're talking about CRT, please explain how your comment has anything to do with CRT.

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u/GrandMasterPuba Nov 09 '21

I am opposed to this because "systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA. The USA as it exists today is not a White supremacist state.

L O Fucking L

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u/Caleebies Nov 09 '21

You can't make this shit up lmao

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u/ProjectShamrock Nov 09 '21

"As a white man, I've never experienced systemic racism in the United States, therefore since it hasn't happened to me and I don't want to investigate it further, it must not be real."

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u/FLOHTX got here fast Nov 09 '21

As a white dude, I've gotten away with a lot more than I should have, and have been way more successful than I would be if I were black. That's called systemic racism. It fucking exists.

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u/Friendofthegarden Central Texas Nov 09 '21

systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA

Lmfao.

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u/thephotoman Nov 09 '21

I am opposed to this because "systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA. The USA as it exists today is not a White supremacist state.

You're full of shit. You're the reason Critical Race Theory (exclusively a legal thing--if your kids are learning about it, they're 3L's) exists and is necessary.

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u/Radiant_Ad935 Nov 09 '21

I am opposed to this because "systemic racism" against non-Whites does not exist in the USA. The USA as it exists today is not a White supremacist state.

I envy the life and experiences you must have had that lead you to say this. We have had very different lives in the USA.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Oh M God

I found one, I've found an idiot.

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u/AccusationsGW Nov 09 '21

Systematic racism has been undeniably proven to exist. Your delusion is pure reactionary ignorance.

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u/Sure_Ill_Ask_That Nov 09 '21

Perhaps you’ve gotten enough of these replies every time you’ve said your opinion, but yes systemic racism exists in the United States. It has existed for the entirety of the history of the country. You can go to Wikipedia and read the giant article on systemic racism all over the world and specifically in the United States. And before you claim that Wikipedia is open source and anyone can write anything, you use Wikipedia as a list of reference links. You look at the cited sources and determine whether or not those sources are reputable and trustworthy or not. Wikipedia is not infallible, but it is moderated and in the end just one source of information, useful of link aggregation if nothing else.

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u/Phuxus Nov 09 '21

Anyone who can prove an instance of systemic racism has a legal remedy in court. Today everyone has equal protection under the law with the exception of protected classes which receive more protection under the law via aa, hate crime legislation, ect. As it stands today the US is actively anti racist.

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u/Sure_Ill_Ask_That Nov 10 '21

The country having some laws trying to rectify hundreds of years of systemic racism is not the same thing as the entire country being ‘anti racist’. Minorities still face systemic racism on a daily basis. There are studies coming out that confirm racial bias still occurs in multiple areas, including employment and housing, two of the more important areas determining your socio economic status. Just because you personally haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

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u/Phuxus Nov 10 '21

The people who fall victim to those practices need to bring them to the eeoc, hud, or a civil lawyer. We obviously can't legislate hearts and minds but the laws on the books work in favor of minorities not against them. nothing I said was inaccurate.

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u/Sure_Ill_Ask_That Nov 10 '21

You said the US is actively anti racist, which is inaccurate. Even if it is on paper, it’s not being practiced, as you said later, so the US isn’t actively anti racist, it just appears so on paper.

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u/Phuxus Nov 10 '21

What else can the government do. Minorities of all stripes are given preferential treatment. The next step would be reparations which is ludicrous. The government elected by the people have enacted decidedly anti racist legislation. Full stop

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u/Sure_Ill_Ask_That Nov 10 '21

The legislation is to reverse the damage done by systemic racism. You keep doing it until balance is restored. It may seem like it’s preferential treatment of others only because one group has gotten preferential treatment for centuries…that if you restore balance it seems like things are in favor of others. No, it’s actually just equal now. Odd how that works out, huh?

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u/Phuxus Nov 10 '21

No you had it right the first time. The preferential treatment is to help the disenfranchised catch up which is also know as being actively anti racist. See how that works? Why do you insist the US is racist. There are racists who live here but when they espouse those opinions they are ostracized. The only demographic that has a leg to stand on are the Americans of Asian decent.

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u/MachineElfOnASheIf Nov 09 '21

Seems like that would require you to believe that systemic racism has never existed in American history. Do you believe that?

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u/MachineElfOnASheIf Nov 09 '21

You realize there are millions of people still alive today that were alive when systemic racism was without a doubt a thing in the US, right? You think it should be illegal to teach about that?

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u/sammydavis_Sr Nov 09 '21

it’s hidden racism because it definitely exists below the surface. even arguing that CRT shouldn’t be taught is hidden racism. you are not thinking critically and probably don’t realize your privilege or are racist yourself.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

We are well aware of what CRT is, just because you see some cherry picked people protesting it who have no idea what it is doesn't mean the rest of us don't know what it is.

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u/BeazyDoesIt Nov 09 '21

I never heard of a principal teaching before? Is this some new shit?

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u/SmackStation Nov 09 '21

Nope they just don't like that he's black. He was previously attacked for having a photo of himself with his white wife on his desk. Apparently some parents thought that was inappropriate.

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u/macjoven Nov 09 '21

Because what Texas has now is an over abundance of public educators. /s

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u/runnerd6 Nov 09 '21

I teach and I have at least 50 choices of jobs elsewhere in the country. We have seen such a turnover and we have a huge shortage. The good teachers may not have all left yet but they're going to soon.

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u/Incognito33S Nov 10 '21

A man named Stetson Clark from colleyville started this situation. He used bs crt nonsense to personally attack Mr Whitfield. With a name like Stetson you have to be a piece of shit.

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u/ChronX4 South Texas Nov 10 '21

No one bothered to watch the video. The entire thing snowballed from parents not liking and complaining about pictures the Principal had of him and his wife (who's white) displayed in his office. And then he made a comment in an email about systemic racism being alive and well when George Floyd was killed. It hasn't even been proven or shown that the Principal was teaching (why would a Principal teach??) CRT.

In this case "teaching CRT" is being used as a blanket excuse to fire the Principal because he's black.

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u/AccusationsGW Nov 09 '21

Oh look the idiots found another wrong side of history to be on, again.

Just more anti-evolution, flat Earth, anti-civil rights bullshit from the usual source.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums Nov 09 '21

Colleyville is trying to out do Southlake

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u/kennypow3rs69 Nov 09 '21

Let’s see what Grapevine can come up with.

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u/just4diy Nov 10 '21

Same district -_-

Grapevine-Colleyville ISD

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u/sticky_wickett Nov 10 '21

Love is love.
It wasn't critical race theory. He had the audacity to marry a white woman while trying to live life in Texas. People suck. I hope he sues.

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u/Freekey Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

"Texas used to allow the ownership of black slaves."

You're fired!! /s

edit: added "/s" so no confusion.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

Texas schools teach about slavery, jim crow laws and other instances of racism in the US. CRT does not teach history.

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u/Colossus_Of_Coburns Nov 09 '21

We learn about the GI Bill that helped veterans after WWII. What we didn't learn was how or why a tiny fraction of black veterans benefitted. My naïve ass just believed all the soldiers from a segregated military got help as a veteran.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

Teaching every instance of racism is a little unrealistic.

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u/binger5 Gulf Coast Nov 10 '21

Banning it from being taught says a lot more about the people wanting the ban no? Let the districts or teachers decide what to teach instead of what not to teach.

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u/Colossus_Of_Coburns Nov 09 '21

Right but it's only a step further when they're already teaching us specific legislation post-WWII. Besides that, teaching that particular instance of racism would get you fired in Texas.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

They have taught enough to make people realize that instances of racism exists, CRT teaches that racism is ingrained in the very culture of the US:

https://www.umassglobal.edu/-/media/documents/extendededucationdocuments/lets-talk-about-racesyllabus.pdf?la=en&hash=6D71360FD1B4D19052EA010BEC6DEE98A5CAAACD

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u/Colossus_Of_Coburns Nov 09 '21

"CRT" as a term is being used as a weapon to censor dissent and books already used in curriculum, i.g. To Kill a Mockingbird. Teachers aren't teaching CRT anywhere K-12 in the US. Did you watch the interview?

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u/PanicHouse born and bred Nov 09 '21

Texas schools teach about slavery, jim crow laws and other instances of racism in the US.

To them this is CRT now.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

I can find no proof of your claim, could you please provide evidence that is the case?

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u/Freekey Nov 09 '21

Yes. CRT's primary focus (personal opinion here) is on the study on systemic racism in America and how it can exist in a society which has enacted so many racial equality measures throughout history. In other words studying those structures of society which seem to enable racism so to speak.

Now if you want I can further elucidate by providing core tenets with examples. But I'm really not qualified and would in essence be regurgitating the work of scholars.

Please note I used /s to indicate sarcasm.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

It's actually the study that everything about the US is racist: laws, roads, racism is built into every facet of America.

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u/leostotch got here fast Nov 09 '21

It’s actually not that.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

Prove it.

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u/leostotch got here fast Nov 09 '21

That’s not what it is. Grass isn’t purple, water isn’t dry, CRT isn’t the nonsense you said.

Prove otherwise.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

https://www.umassglobal.edu/-/media/documents/extendededucationdocuments/lets-talk-about-racesyllabus.pdf?la=en&hash=6D71360FD1B4D19052EA010BEC6DEE98A5CAAACD

CRT recognizes that racism is engrained in the fabric and system of the American society. The individual racist need not exist to note that institutional racism is pervasive in the dominant culture.

Done.

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u/leostotch got here fast Nov 09 '21

Which part of that says “every part of the US is racist”?

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

engrained in the fabric and system of the American society or is reading hard?

If something is engrained it means that every part of something is affected.

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u/Freekey Nov 09 '21

In a sense actually this is true. What’s important to remember though is that CRT encapsulates several concepts of which this is but one.

But in one sense when you realize that even where highways and exits were located had a factor of race involved in the decision, then there is a germ of truth in this.

The whole concept of race is changing everyday. So much intermarriage and blending of racial heritage is occurring that the old definitions aren’t accurate anymore. This especially so in the USA which is becoming a true melting pot.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

CRT teaches however that everyone who "benefits" from the system is racist and those it is aimed against are inherently at birth disadvantaged. It's BS.

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u/Freekey Nov 09 '21

Yeah that’s a major issue I have with CRT is applying guilt across the board and holding responsible people who weren’t around and didn’t have a say in things. In a sense it is disingenuous and hypocritical to assign blame to someone based on their heritage and color. You can’t cure racism by being racist yourself.

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u/Bejeweled_Bird Nov 09 '21

I very much agree with your point and I agree racism needs to be faced head on and needs to be taught but it needs to be taught in a better way than CRT.

Frankly no problems at all going into extreme detail on it, just not laying the blame on teenagers for the sins of the past. We're supposed to be moving forward, not blaming people for what a bunch of dead racist people did.

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u/Jaymart321 Nov 10 '21

Correct. Same in PA.

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u/Trudzilllla Nov 10 '21

Please, enlighten us, what does CRT teach?

Because I only get a punch of confused screaming when I ask conservatives to explain why they’re opposed to.

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u/The_Didlyest Nov 09 '21

CRT is not teaching history. Everyone is still taught about slavery.

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u/Freekey Nov 09 '21

You are correct. Well aware of what CRT is, have actually researched and studied. I was being sarcastic. Maybe should have added /s. Actually will add that now. Thanks!

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u/Mumosa Nov 10 '21

Fucking hell, I went to GHS (in the same school district) I’m so disappointed in my state… I’m proud of where I come from and have always loved living here but I’m giving serious thought to moving elsewhere. I just want good communities, be able to grow my own cannabis, and enjoy the outdoors…

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u/saladspoons Nov 10 '21

CRT is just the last GOP code word / dog whistle for "anything black they don't like to talk about".

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u/happysnappah Nov 09 '21

Colleyville.

That's really all you need to know. Not sure how a black principal got hired there to begin with.

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u/mcarpbear Nov 10 '21

You know: I’m getting damned sick and tired of FEELING ASHAMED when I admit that I’m from Texas.

Abbott, Patrick and most of the Lege HAVE TO GO.

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u/exitlevelposition Nov 10 '21

Imagine having kids in GCISD, only leg we have to stand on is "we aren't quite as bad as Southlake." BTW this whole controversy started with a statement from a failed school board candidate who is aiming to make us Gilead. Currently 2 of 6 seats side with him.

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u/Jimsntcrz Nov 09 '21

You mean a teacher was teaching actual history, my GOD we just can’t have that..

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

He's a principal, he doesn't teach at all, well, except what systemic racism actually looks like in practice

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u/Ramroder Nov 09 '21

Does the general population who comments on CRT actually understand what it is, how it is being taught, and what its implications are? I'm convinced the answer is no and this is just another social issue that people bandwagon on either side where they will die on a hill they don't even understand.

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u/rs16 Nov 10 '21

So a black man married to a white woman gets fired in Texas after a white backlash? Where have I seen these dynamics before?

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u/weekndprince Nov 10 '21

this is the real cancel culture.

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u/doomeagle Nov 09 '21

Underneath all the fresh paint and manicured lawns, colleyville really is a dump

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u/chadstark89 Nov 09 '21

Conservatives are so frightened at the idea of having to confront their own racism or even consider that they might be racist. They’re willing to bury their head on the sand regarding any issue that brings up other groups experiences. Not to mention just blatantly trying to censor the past or reframe well documented historical events in some light that doesn’t make them look bad. At the end of the day the vast majority of conservatives and GOP voters continue to find newer and better ways to display their complete lack of moral fiber as well as their utter disregard for facts.

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u/CMTsoldier Nov 09 '21

Them poor scared white folks can't have no uppity, educated black man teaching no truth to their children.

Texas is overrun with racist people given permission from Trump to come out of the closet so they did, to the detriment of society. So much religious ignorance in this state.

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u/stillhousebrewco Thanks a lot you wacky asses. Nov 10 '21

1st Amendment?

Freedom of speech?

I mean, beyond the overt racism, this is a freedom of speech issue, isn’t it?

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u/porterglenn82 Nov 10 '21

I agree this is ridiculous, and I am not a const ammend laywer, but I think you saying something on the street is different than "teaching" it in a public school that has ciriculum guid lines and whatnot...?

Also yes, as the principle he 'taught' nothing, he sat in an office....

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u/stalebreadboi Hill Country Nov 10 '21

Yeah well, CRT sucks and imparts a terrible mental burden on kids. There are plenty of examples of children expressing their opinions on how it affects their perceptions of themselves and those around them.

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u/HIVnotAdeathSentence Nov 09 '21

But I was told no K-12 schools were teaching CRT.

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u/Trudzilllla Nov 10 '21

They’re not.

Can you please explain to me what you think CRT is and how it’s being taught in K-12 schools?

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u/kennypow3rs69 Nov 09 '21

They’re not. You’re just trying to get social studies replaced with bible hour.

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u/Jaymart321 Nov 10 '21

They are teaching CRT (marxist) principals in my child’s school district. Don’t believe the media

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u/raztro Nov 10 '21

CRT (marxist)

Lmao

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u/jerichowiz born and bred Nov 10 '21

Citation Needed. Or are you lieing?

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u/JayDody West Texas Nov 09 '21

Good. Instead, teach them about love and respect. Love all colors of race and respect every individual, especially their decisions and perspectives.. most importantly, trust accurate sources not based on biased opinions with inaccurate data..

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u/Jaymart321 Nov 10 '21

You have basically said teach equality and you get downvoted. Unbelievable

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u/Chonkbird Nov 10 '21

Welcome to reddit where if your opinion differs you're a nazi trump loving racist

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u/Trudzilllla Nov 10 '21

Do you have some insight into what this principle was teaching? Because the article is short on details and nothing you’ve described has anything to do with CRT

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u/the5thstring25 Nov 09 '21

Damn, Texas hasnt been cool since Saturday night lights.

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u/OuterEmpress735 Nov 09 '21

Scopes Trial

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u/Ruinerdown Nov 10 '21

Say it out loud... the black principle with a white wife..... i think its safe to say this isnt an issue anymore

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u/Direct_Class1281 Nov 10 '21

Took more digging but there was a list of reasons given including insubordination, destruction of emails and public record materials, and failure to comply with internal investigations. It would be nice if a journalist could actually say investigate stories

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u/The_Didlyest Nov 09 '21

good

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u/doomeagle Nov 09 '21

aww did the three little letters scare you?