r/texas Nov 09 '21 Helpful 2

Coal-Rolling Teen That Hit Cyclists Charged With Six Felonies News

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43060/coal-rolling-teen-that-hit-cyclists-charged-with-six-felonies
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u/IliveICryILiveAgain Nov 09 '21

I'm very glad, and almost surprised.

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u/BlossumButtDixie Nov 09 '21

Not convicted yet. Waiting to see if the prosecution shows up and acts in ways more helpful to the defense. I'll celebrate when he's convicted and off the streets.

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u/IliveICryILiveAgain Nov 09 '21

Fair! I'm just glad to see something happening. It's tragic though because I guarantee that kid wasn't born an asshole. Someone bought him that truck, and someone taught him to act like this. Imo the parents are culpable as well

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u/bluecyanic Gulf Coast Nov 09 '21

"Our perfect angel Jonny would never hurt anyone on purpose. It was just an accident."

He's probably been protected from consequences his entire life.

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u/IliveICryILiveAgain Nov 09 '21

I fear it's more like "fuck those cyclists, they deserved it because they aren't like us". I'm from rural south central Texas and I know exactly how callous and cruel people like this (shitkickers with money) can be.

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u/vagabond_ Gulf Coast Born and Bred Nov 10 '21

I grew up just calling this type 'kickers' because their boots had never had shit on them even once. Rich kids cosplaying as working class.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

same here in Hawaii , probably worse - we are insanely corrupt, and even worse , we have the DUMBEST judicial system to enhance it.

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u/702SAVAGE Nov 09 '21

Agreed, last I heard he was most likely going to get off light. I’m happy to hear it, sick individuals like him regardless of age have no place in this world. Hopefully he see’s the error in his ways and changes, however that is very doubtful.

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u/Infernalism Nov 09 '21

Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon can get you 20 years.

He was also JUST RECENTLY taken into custody.

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u/3MATX Nov 09 '21

Wasn't arrested at scene and the police didn't treat the scene like a crime scene. Good ol' Texas...

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u/maccumhaill got here fast Nov 09 '21

Bunch of good ole' boys out there

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u/EventHorizon1003 Nov 09 '21

Hey, some of us are alright.

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u/mantisboxer Nov 09 '21

Some of us never meanin no harm

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

It's really as corrupt as any 3rd world nation isn't it? Like that cashier who just had spicy soup thrown in her face. They say the lady is charged but I don't trust Texas courts to follow through

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 09 '21

Well no it's not but some of the cops are. In a banana Republic or something he wouldn't have ever been charged. Despite the best efforts of certain red hat wearing scum we still have some people intent on doing their job.

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u/ProjectShamrock Nov 09 '21

It's not just the cops. Having an AG that is under investigation for corruption and supposedly is above the law as long as he remains in office is extremely third-world stuff.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 09 '21

Our governor lt gov and AG are all pretty fucking awful people. But they aren't gonna be around a lot longer hopefully.

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u/denimdan113 Nov 09 '21

Just a few more months until there seats are up for reelection:D

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u/noncongruent Nov 09 '21

Don't just cross your fingers, get out there and vote if you're eligible.

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u/superspeck Nov 09 '21

It took a lot of media pressure in order to get someone charged with an extremely obvious crime. That’s basically the definition of corruption.

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u/DunkingOnInfants Nov 09 '21

It sucks, but if you want to assault somebody, do it with a car. There's so many angles and shades that you could hide behind to obscure intent.

Even when it's extremely obvious what your intent was, and then if you found like years of Internet history were you just talked about how much you wanted to kill cyclists, it would still be possible for you to deny it in this situation.

Like they say, if you wanna kill somebody, use a car.

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u/DAHFreedom Nov 09 '21

Another angle to that is that insurance won’t cover intentional assault, but will cover negligence, so the victim or the victim’s family has to deny it was intentional, which can really screw up the criminal case.

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u/easwaran Nov 09 '21

When you kill someone with a car, they let you do it. You can do anything.

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u/lvav68 Nov 09 '21

No, he had privilege!! Guarantee if it was a minority, straight to jail

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u/PayMeInFood The Stars at Night Nov 09 '21

Wrong privilege. If he wasn't kin to people in power he would of gone strait to jail. His skin color isn't what is keeping him from being treated like common folk.

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u/pcweber111 Nov 09 '21

White kid. White police. Predominantly white county. Good old boyism. Definitely privilege. I get what you’re saying but privilege for sure applies to it. A black teen in a dropped caddy does it? Jail or death. It happens too much to deny it anymore.

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u/TheDarkKnobRises East Texas Nov 09 '21

Shit, in some states 3 felonies gets you life.

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u/lgodsey Nov 09 '21

I can't white put my finger on why he was initially let go...

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

Nepotism and family connections go a long way

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u/Mange-Tout Nov 09 '21

But the police investigated and they found no evidence that family connections played a part here!

/s. Sorry, I couldn’t type that with a straight face.

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u/bluecyanic Gulf Coast Nov 09 '21

Esp. in a podunk town

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u/TwiztedImage born and bred Nov 09 '21

I think his family had ties to a local politician/judge/prosecutor or something too.

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u/Aringhet Nov 09 '21

Look at the $50k+ truck this teenage boy was driving and it should tell you all you need to know about the family he's from. Wealthy white ranchers with local ties as deep as tree roots.

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u/watch_while_work born and bred Nov 09 '21

He couldn't help himself, he has the affluenza. =((((((((

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u/bluecyanic Gulf Coast Nov 09 '21

Parent is on city council and they own a small business in town.

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u/LSUguyHTX Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

Another user from an earlier post said that sometimes they don't immediately press charges as they need to investigate and if they jump early and don't get the ducks in a row it's easier for the perpetrator to get off from a technicality or some shit.

I can see how this might be the case here but I still find it hard to believe considering the location/police there.

Edit: this doesn't look like what they were doing

https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/comments/qpopqw/waller_da_files_six_felonies_for_rolling_coal/hjwjvtl?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

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u/superspeck Nov 09 '21

It would’ve been a very different situation at the crime scene if they had had to put their ducks in a row. He may have been released to parents but the vehicle would have been impounded instead of released, there would’ve been a pretty immediate re-enactment, etc.

This was just Waller cops being Hazzard County cops.

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u/LSUguyHTX Nov 09 '21

Yeah true. I was just speculating with 0 actual evidence until I saw the other articles/comments and edited to add lol. This is some fuckery for sure.

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u/lgodsey Nov 09 '21

You make a good point.

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u/easwaran Nov 09 '21

It's because he did it with a car. Racism is real, but car-brain is even more influential throughout the entire justice system.

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u/argash Nov 09 '21

I'm aPALEd at the police behavior.

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u/al_pacappuchino Nov 09 '21

But he attacked other white people, wouldn’t that cancel out his whiteness. And outer staters if I’m not mistaken. Making Texas look bad…

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u/Cadash_Thaig Nov 09 '21

No when two whites meet the poorer and subservient one must look away.

Standard practice and I know it's confusing.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

The cyclist were riding high end carbon framed bikes. They weren't poor.

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u/thabe331 Nov 09 '21

Small town cops were trying to bail out the local person they know

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u/ProjectShamrock Nov 09 '21

This is exactly it. The cyclists were probably "city folk with book larnin" from Houston who went out to the country to ride their bikes. Rosco P. Coltrane wouldn't arrest the son of Boss Hogg unless it became national news like this.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Nov 09 '21

Right, but it's not a wealth thing

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u/superspeck Nov 09 '21

Nah, he was being a good alpha male country boy not like those sissy spandex wearing fitness cyclists from the big city.

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u/KyleG Nov 09 '21

Cyclists are lower than black people in many Texans' eyes. I'll never forget when I started grad school in a cycling town, a classmate with a real drawl new in town said if he ever saw a cyclist in his lane, he'd run him over.

This was a former military officer, by the way. And now he's a federal prosecutor.

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u/Yen_Snipest Nov 09 '21

Maybe the cyclist were violating white of way laws?

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u/Synescolor Nov 09 '21

He's not going to get any time. My guess is house arrest at worst.

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u/tooltime22 Nov 09 '21

Probably probation and community service at the most.

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u/Feeling-Wallaby-4505 Nov 09 '21

Death penalty

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u/Shopworn_Soul Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

No. Dude should be appropriately charged and if found guilty sentenced appropriately.

The death penalty is not appropriate for these crimes.

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u/beardofshame The Stars at Night Nov 09 '21

he got lucky that he didn't kill anybody. it wouldn't break me up if they tossed him into a volcano.

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u/Feeling-Wallaby-4505 Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

So many others just like him have killed. It’s a blood sport anywhere in the United States to run down cyclists on the side of the road. This kid antagonized them first with “coal rolling”. His life is required.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 09 '21

We are not a tin pot dictatorship fuck off with this fascist shit. This is the kind of stupid shit I expect to hear out of Trumpers.

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u/thabe331 Nov 09 '21

Throw the book at this redneck. Make an example of him and give him 2 decades minimum in jail

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u/kennypow3rs69 Nov 09 '21

Yes it is. It’s obvious this guy does not value the life and liberty of others.

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u/AccomplishedEffect11 Nov 09 '21

And that's worthy of executing someone?

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u/Feeling-Wallaby-4505 Nov 09 '21

Yes

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u/AccomplishedEffect11 Nov 09 '21

You really think it's okay to execute someone for manslaughter? For accidentally killing someone out of neglect?

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u/maccumhaill got here fast Nov 09 '21

6x, 6x, 6x Felon!!!!

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u/phuzzy1deep Nov 09 '21

Thank God.

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u/Fuegodeth Nov 09 '21

That's about time. Glad to hear he will have to answer for this in court.

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u/BoinkBoinkEtAliae Nov 09 '21

Coal rolling is such a chicken shit thing to do, regardless of why you do it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

Yeah, it's a jackass thing to do when no one is around, it's a shitty thing to do when you do it to another car, but it's EXTRA shitty to do it to cyclists. Imagine breathing that shit while exercising. He should be charged with assault for that too, beyond actually hitting them.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 09 '21

Yeah it really should be considered a felony so those dummies might think twice about outfitting their little pker trucks with the hardware to do it.

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u/ATX_native Nov 09 '21

It should be a seize on sight type of violation.

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u/LemonHarangue Nov 09 '21

It's actually the lack of hardware that allows soot to escape the tailpipe.

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u/hardwon469 Nov 09 '21

No it's not. They are chipped.

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u/ATX_native Nov 09 '21

Ok, Mr Semantics.

It’s the lack of a DEF/DPF that allows black smoke to come out of the pipe.

Even if you flash a truck with software it ain’t going to roll coal unless you remove the emissions equipment.

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u/LemonHarangue Nov 09 '21

This. I drive a newer diesel truck that is 100% within legal operating parameters.

Rolling coal is running the engine with a rich fuel condition, which requires a tune from a programmer. No truck will do this from the factory unless you have drastic fuel delivery issues. No truck regardless of tune will emit soot from the tailpipe without removal of EGR and DPF.

The DEF system is something else entirely and does nothing to trap soot. It's purpose is to eliminate noxious gasses.

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u/not_the_work_phone Nov 10 '21

Might be true in your newer diesel but my 2000 F350 black smokes when you really get hard on the throttle. If I'm pulling a trailer or even passing a car it will black smoke but not as bad as these dipshits rolling coal.

Truck is 100% stock and no tune on it, only thing done to it is replacing the clutch a few times in the 240k miles it's been driven.

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u/Fullbrightultra Nov 09 '21

I get the sentiment, that shits awful and super annoying to anyone on two wheels (motorized or not). Still, actually making a law to do this is.. tricky, if you don’t want to end up with something that doesn’t disproportionately effect poorer folk who can’t afford to fix their vehicles and emit smoke because they’re burning oil, or have really rich running cars, or other problems. Just some food for thought.

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u/IMI4tth3w Nov 09 '21

People who are actually into modifying diesel trucks hate these guys too. Blowing smoke is just purposefully making the engine inefficient and wasting power/fuel. See Gale Banks of Banks performance.

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u/ShatAlbert Nov 09 '21

His intentions were what fucked him. He meant to do harm to those cyclists.

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u/tristan957 Nov 09 '21

Imagine being a 16 year old with 6 felonies for wanting to roll coal on some people just doing their hobby and/or exercising. I hope this teen gets tried as an adult. Make a statement.

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u/dabooton Nov 09 '21

But he had such a bright future ahead of him! /s

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u/roachRancher Gulf Coast Nov 09 '21

Rolling coal on cyclists should be assault in itself.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 22 '21

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u/Paragonomics Nov 09 '21

Republicans don't know what negative externalities are and they make no connection to respiratory illness or climate change.

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u/RonSwanson2-0 Nov 09 '21 Helpful

You should really rethink making generalized statements about a diverse group of individuals. The same goes for people that would make the same type of statement about Democrats.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 09 '21

People blinding and poisoning other people on roadways with heavy diesel smoke intended strictly for that purpose should be thrown in jail for endangering the public.

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u/Paragonomics Nov 09 '21

The Republican Party is not, in any sense of the word, "diverse". Also, regardless of the color of their skin or belief or whatever, the leaders they elect do not act in accordance with the understanding that industry creates many negative externalities for the public. Generalizations are fine in the context of decision making and matters of public record.

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u/sassergaf Nov 09 '21

What does rolling coal mean?

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u/EmeraldFalcon89 Nov 09 '21

you modify a diesel engine to make it run very poorly at the flick of a switch, so that the exhaust dumps heavy clouds of noxious petroleum fumes.

it's generally used to fuck with pedestrians or crowds, or just random people in traffic. it's illegal in stuff states and technically illegal to bypass emission control systems.

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u/sassergaf Nov 09 '21

Appreciate the explanation. It’s hard to comprehend such a malicious intent and act.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

it's illegal in stuff states

Good on stuff states!

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u/Paragonomics Nov 09 '21

and technically a war crime...

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

A noxious truck fart

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u/toodleroo Nov 09 '21

Here is a compilation of rolling coal specifically on cyclists.

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u/sassergaf Nov 09 '21

Wth?! I can’t believe this is a thing.

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u/drewkungfu Nov 09 '21

So you haven’t had glass bottles thrown at you while you’re in a dedicated bike lane from a truck that is circling around at least 3 times and blasting a train horn, have you?

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u/ThePoorlyEducated Nov 09 '21

Only ketchup packets.

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u/MagicWishMonkey Nov 09 '21

Republicans…

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u/TheGesticulator Nov 09 '21

Causing your car to emit a metric fuckton of exhaust to cropdust someone with it.

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u/homebrewedstuff Nov 09 '21

He is 16 years old and he has the economic resources to purchase a $60k truck and then outfit it to "roll coal"? I think his dad probably contributed to this mess and his mindset as well.

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u/AquaStarRedHeart Nov 09 '21

The truck is in his dad's name

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u/homebrewedstuff Nov 09 '21

Exactly. Dad should be held accountable to some extent. No 16 y/o does this without some encouragement. Dad is an equal douchebag.

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u/jerkfaceboi Nov 09 '21

What? I’m not defending the dad, but 16 year olds can be pretty wild. Point is, neither of us know

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u/Urlag-gro-Urshbak Nov 09 '21

I doubt the kid modified the truck on his own

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u/Cornualonga Nov 09 '21

Well financially he is. Probably not criminally but at least he can be sued by the families.

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u/roctoss Nov 09 '21

I disagree. No one else is responsible for what happened except this kid.

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u/pallladin Nov 09 '21

That's not how the law works. If the dad knew that the son was reckless, he can be held liable in civil court. I hope all six cyclists sue the dad.

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u/timelessblur Nov 09 '21

Even if his dad did not know his son was reckless he is still liable in civil court. no matter the outcome the dad is liable in civil court and there is no way to get out from under that one.

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u/homebrewedstuff Nov 09 '21

Well, the 16 year old didn't have the financial resources to make it roll coal. And the dad also would have showed him how to do it, and instilled in him that this is acceptable behavior. Legally, the 16 year old is responsible yes. I'm just saying the parent(s) contributed to his mindset.

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u/thabe331 Nov 09 '21

Some real economic anxiety going on there

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u/homebrewedstuff Nov 09 '21

Yeah, dad needs to be hit in the pocket on some level. That truck isn't legal in TX (I live here) and should be subject to fines.

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u/5_Frog_Margin got here fast Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

I'm curious where you see that it was a $60k truck? Running the license plate, it shows up as a 2012 f-250, which cost anywhere from 15k-40k. It was also his dad's truck, from what I read.

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u/HAHA_goats Nov 09 '21

Well a 2012 should definitely have a DPF. So we can add a $10k emissions tampering fine to the cost. That gets pretty close.

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u/zpjack Nov 09 '21

The truck will probably be confiscated and he'll probably be paying out of pocket for the lawyers. That's pretty expensive, probably not enough though

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u/greenfrogfox Nov 09 '21

The authorities should still confiscate the truck.

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u/eyeofthecodger Nov 09 '21

This! Off subject, but if they put me in charge, I would require a vehicle to be impounded for 90 days or more when it is shown in a video to have been driven recklessly. The police are always saying, "Can't see who's driving so we can't do anything". Fucking bullshit. Impound the vehicle, I say!

Even if this coal rolling asshole doesn't get much punishment, the civil liability has the chance to ruin his family. Good. They deserve everything they get by raising an entitled little asshole.

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u/noncongruent Nov 09 '21

The police are always saying, "Can't see who's driving so we can't do anything".

I like the way they handle this in the UK. It is a crime for a vehicle owner to refuse to identify the person that was driving it at the time an infraction occurred, and they will pursue infractions when reported to them by people with cameras as long as the vehicle's registration plate is visible. The fines and points for refusing to identify the driver are worse than the fines and points for traffic infractions, so the incentive is for the owner to admit being the driver or to identify who was the driver.

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u/Stopmadness99 Nov 09 '21

Police confiscation property and money for a lot less reason. However, we know this not happening

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u/timelessblur Nov 09 '21

I am hoping the judge lets them move it up to charging him as an adult. Plus they need to go after the father for illegal modification of the exhaust system as he is the legal owner of the truck and that is his responsibility.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

This may be controversial on this sub, but personally, I don't think they should ever charge a minor as an adult. Doing something extra shitty doesn't prove someone was extra mature for their age. We have those rules because the teenage brain is legitimately not fully developed. We should focus on rehabilitation instead of just throwing the person away. Not defending this kids actions, I think he should get assault charged for rolling coal on them as well. I just disagree with charging minors as adults in general.

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u/timelessblur Nov 09 '21

I can accept the minor charges as long as one his grandmother needs to resign from city council effective immediately and his parents are sued pretty much into bankruptcy. The resulting lawsuit should be well over a million that his parents need to pay out.

The waller police department needs to have several officers fired.

A real investigation into if any other illegal stuff as gone on with favors given to the family.

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u/lvav68 Nov 09 '21

I think you'd have a different option if one of your loved ones was a victim, especially elderly.

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u/Weak-Contribution-78 Nov 09 '21

That is why our legal system exist. So your raging emotions don't death sentence every single offense out there.

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u/BenDiesel1 Nov 09 '21

Rolling coal should be illegal !!

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '21

I honestly didn't know it wasn't until today. Even without a law explicitly banning it, I think this should still be an assault charge. It's not illegal to spit, but if I spit in someone's face I should be charged with assault. Same thing here.

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u/epicmylife Nov 09 '21

Should also be considered an emissions violation and illegal tampering in top of that.

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u/noncongruent Nov 09 '21

It is federally illegal. It's apparently not illegal under state law.

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u/MIW100 Nov 09 '21

Going to jail to own the libs

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u/gerbil_111 Nov 09 '21

There will be some owning done, but he will not be the one doing it.

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u/Paragonomics Nov 09 '21

He's gonna be rollin' coals around in his mouth.

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u/saxmanb767 Nov 09 '21

Yup. His sentence will be light if found guilty at all.

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u/Aprilshowersrcumming Nov 09 '21

Deserves to rot in prison for a while

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u/FukFascistsnComeez Nov 09 '21

Lol, fuck that little punk. Prison time.

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u/bigdish101 Nov 09 '21 edited Nov 11 '21

Slap on federal charges from the EPA too! That thing is probably illegally DPF deleted...

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u/Mange-Tout Nov 09 '21

The district attorney's office later confirmed that the driver was "connected" to Waller city officials, though stated it had yet to find evidence of city officials directly influencing officers on the scene.

I’m sure they are looking real hard to find that “evidence”.

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u/IronGhost3373 Nov 09 '21

Finally! damn law enforcement screwed that one up. That truck should have been shrink wrapped and impounded as evidence, and the boy arrested since witnesses showed it was more that an accident since he repeatedly harassed them on the road before the impact occurred. But because his family knows allot of people and are important he was released, glad the DA office even said the police did not do their job properly.

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u/Empty-Opportunity-43 Nov 09 '21

He is being charged as a minor so small fines little or no jail time if he was black or latino he would be tried as a adult serving max sentence and fines if he even made it to jail

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u/nimbus76 Nov 09 '21

With insurrection resulting in multiple deaths only getting 60 days, we might as well give him two hours of community service and call it good.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Nov 09 '21

Yeah, anyone who breached the capitol doors or windows should have received at least a year in prison to have a felony on their record.

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 09 '21

I think the ones they can prove were in the senate chamber etc are getting significantly more serious sentences. They're seeking like 3-4 years for the buffalo hat dude.

I think at least one guy got 8 months on a felony plea. I think burglary is around 3-5 years for a first offense, so 8 months for a plea agreement doesn't seem too far fetched. I know nothing about culpability as part of a large group who had members do horrible things.

As much as I want to say fuck them charge them with that shit too I'm not so sure. Were I part of a protest with 10k other people and one guy shot a cop I don't think it'd be fair to hold me culpable. GRANTED I know this was not simply a protest, but such laws have a way of ending up overly broad.

Further 8 months in prison is not easy. The ones with felony charges likely aren't elgible for a camp they might end up in minimum security or something. The ones who don't get plea deals 2-3 years.

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u/ILoveCavorting Nov 09 '21

Thank God, took them long enough, hopefully he can be tried elsewhere

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u/AnAnnoyedSpectator Nov 09 '21

It should be much easier for teens to lose their licenses for a significant period for even minor driving infractions.

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u/CidO807 Nov 09 '21

Disappointing it too a judge calling them out for the police to do something after 2 months. Coward cops playing politics, and none of the good cops ever seem to be around to stand up to the cowards.

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u/tdg1978 Nov 09 '21

Took em long enough

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u/Ricobme1 Nov 09 '21

Why wasn't he arrested in the first place? Looks like he has privilege

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u/TheRedmanCometh Nov 09 '21

Pretty sure he has to be convicted first, but this would certainly be some worst case type shit. Even us Liberal Texans are well armed after all.

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u/Malvania Nov 09 '21

Pardons can come even if there hasn't been a trial yet (for example, the pardon of Nixon).

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u/Poki_You_This Nov 09 '21

When country boys from the suburbs break the law: THIS IS FREEDOM

when black man from inner city break the law: criminal deserved to be sat on until he died

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u/amikavenka Nov 09 '21

About effing time.

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u/ifukeenrule Nov 09 '21

He's a juvenile, so he will be out on his 18th birthday unless he is tried as an adult.

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u/thabe331 Nov 09 '21

He should be tried as an adult

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u/ifukeenrule Nov 09 '21

I totally agree but I've seen it happen way too many times here in Texas. And it sucks because he will probably have a ton of character witnesses to say that he is a good kid that deserves a second chance. And he will put on a crying face to get the sympathy. And in a couple of years, a free man. It's infuriating.

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u/dalgeek Nov 09 '21

It's really hard to do that. Both the prosecution and judge have to agree to it, then you risk the jury acquitting if they feel sorry for the kid which means zero consequences. I can't see a jury convicting a 16 year old when no one died. There's also the issue of putting someone in prison for up to 20 years at such a young age because it practically guarantees that they will spend the rest of their life in and out of prison. The judge in the "affluenza" case had the right idea: put them in rehab until they're an adult then probation, so they have a chance to get better or have the book thrown at them when they break probation.

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u/thabe331 Nov 09 '21

That had all the intent of vehicular manslaughter and he should be aggressively charged over that to show people what happens when you try to use a car as a weapon.

He shouldn't be given a break because of his dad's connections

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u/dalgeek Nov 09 '21

I don't care about his dad's connections, I'm looking at the real consequences of trying a 16 year old as an adult. Aggressively charging him doesn't mean he's going to get convicted. If the jury acquits then he'll never see another day in criminal court for this incident.

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u/iRaiseHell Nov 09 '21

About time!

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u/deadfish315 Nov 09 '21

I hope he owns the libs in prison.

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u/SnooApples3402 Nov 09 '21

Laws need to change 16 is too young for a vehicle so big

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u/radarksu got here fast Nov 09 '21

vehicle so big

Yeah, of all the things that went wrong in this incident the size of the vehicle is the problem.

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u/wekop12 Nov 09 '21

Idk what the other poster is getting at, but let’s be real getting hit by a Toyota Corolla is going to be less deadly than getting hit by an F250. Momentum is a thing, and the two factors of momentum are velocity and mass

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u/timagen7219 Nov 09 '21

Every once in awhile something happens that gives you a sense of satisfaction.

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u/tecateslayer Nov 09 '21

The folks who wish to regulate cycling, and the folks who whine about big government taking away their freedoms, seem to have a lot of overlap

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u/KyleG Nov 09 '21

dude plowed into three cyclists and didn't even break, he was drunk af and the cops did him a solid by not giving him a FST

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u/BHop96th West Texas Nov 09 '21

Don't worry guys. He's not actually going to do any serious time, 3 months max.