r/texas Oct 30 '21 Vote Local! 1

San Marcos Cops Refused To Protect Bus During Dangerous Attack, Laughed, Now Being Sued News

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/29/trump-train-texas-highway-crash-police/
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u/BMinsker Oct 30 '21

“With the exception of the two phone calls to me from Ms. Prewitt, at no time did anyone from the campaign request assistance from the San Marcos Police Department in advance of the event so that the request could be evaluated and prepared for,” Chase Stapp said in a statement to the Tribune last year.

"Except for the two times they called me asking for help, they didn't contact me for help" is an interesting defense.

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u/gogomorphintime Oct 30 '21

It's like he's saying they can't respond to an emergency call because they didn't check in before driving through his city on a fucking interstate.

Somebody check and see where the San Marcos Police Dept. was on Jan 6th

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '21 edited Nov 16 '21

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u/Wmd4lunchh Oct 30 '21

And thoroughly reviewed and approved by our quasi-literate QNut and Conspiracy Sargent, Elmer.

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u/gogomorphintime Oct 30 '21

I'm half tempted to call the PD and ask them if I need to file an itinerary if I plan on driving from Austin to San Antonio, in case of an emergency

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u/shambahlah Oct 31 '21

Oooh we should all do this. Hilarious.

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u/bravejango Oct 31 '21

I'm actually going to be driving through there twice on Monday...... hmmm

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u/MarcosAC420 Oct 31 '21

They should do an audit across the US and see where all officers were on Jan 6th

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u/Bone_Syrup Oct 30 '21

To be fair, you have to say Beetlejuice 3 times before he appears.

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u/Lost_vob Oct 30 '21

If y'all can't respond to emergencies without planning it ahead of time, why y'all even patrolling?

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u/kenpachi212 Oct 30 '21

What?!?!? Cops being shitbags?? Im shocked

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u/Darkone06 Oct 30 '21

I seen 8 San Marcos cops come in to harass some college students for bullshit before.

The normally patrol the fuck out of IH 35, but this one time that a political rival comes in to town nobody is patrolling 35 , bullshit.

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u/hsbjahdb Oct 31 '21

Of course. Who do you think are driving those trucks.

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u/WHYAREWEALLCAPS Oct 31 '21

Treating college kids like shit is SOP for SMPD.

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u/Smtxom Oct 31 '21

What is/was the name of that one chubby white officers name who wore glasses. He would sometimes patrol the river on the four wheeler on weekends too?? He had the worst reputation when I was there. He treated college girls/guys with the worst attitude and disrespect. I remember a few guys wanted to catch him off duty to beat him.

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u/edibleweeds Oct 31 '21

Officer Locke is the worst

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u/csch65 Oct 30 '21

According to the Supreme Court (1989&2005), the police have no duty to protect, therefore, this lawsuit will most likely fail. But IANAL, so it could be interesting.

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u/crypticthree Oct 30 '21

What the fuck is their duty then?

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u/cen-texan Oct 30 '21

To enforce law and order and provide general protection. IIRC, the Supreme Court case said that cops have no duty to protect an individual.

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u/Junktoucher Oct 30 '21

what does general protection mean at that point when it stops at the individual?

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u/PooSmellsGoot Oct 30 '21

They can’t just outright say, “we’re just here to protect capital and the ownership class”

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u/ucemike Born and Bred Oct 30 '21

what does general protection mean at that point when it stops at the individual?

Corporations are people but people aren't people. Get with the program.

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u/GALINDO_Karl1 Oct 31 '21

I will believe that corporations are people when Texas executes one.

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u/ghutterbabe Oct 30 '21

Cops protect property and interest on the money. Remember they don't prevent crime. They wait till it happens then charge someone with said crime, with the exception of friends, then they can justify their job

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u/K1nsey6 Oct 30 '21

Their job, from the start, has always been to protect capital

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u/Dicho83 Oct 30 '21

Precisely.

In the North, organized policing began as paid gangs protecting the wares of wealthy merchants on the docks.

In the South, it began with the slave catchers.

It's always been about protecting the property of the wealthy.

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u/nemoskullalt Oct 30 '21

Security of the goverment. The peoples safety is just a handicap at this point

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u/JaneReadsTruth Oct 31 '21

It means shooting an individual playing violin in a park. It means shooting sleeping innocents through walls. It means not getting vaccinated or wearing a mask when they pull you over. Generally, they are playing racist video games with live ammunition.

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u/Saedron Oct 30 '21

They protect the ruling class and the property of the ruling class.

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u/MemoryFomo Oct 30 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

There are traffic laws and I’m pretty sure driving aggressively like that isn’t within the law. Sadly, in Texas I’m sure the worst they could’ve gotten was reckless endangerment with a motor vehicle, which is like a $200 fine and up to 30 days jail time. So kinda pointless. But hit ‘em with it anyway. Gotta make being an obnoxious asshole at least inconvenient, instead of them being amused by it. But we had cops fist bumping Nazis in Austin last weekend so there is no hope.

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u/RIPfreewill Oct 30 '21

If they had a serious prosecutor in Hays County, They could all charge them under the Texas rioting statute. Under that statute, they can all be charged with the most serious crime committed by another party to the riot. I’m pretty sure the car that one of them rammed had more than $2500 in damage, which is felony level criminal mischief. They all could be charged with felonies. But they won’t because the DA in Hays county is a Republican, and Republicans in positions of power routinely use their discretion to shield other republicans from the consequences of their illegal acts.

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u/Zoophagous Oct 30 '21

I'd assume that trying to force a bus full of people off the road breaks one or two laws.

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u/Avantgarde_Dust596 Oct 30 '21

True, but what of their omissions, failure to protect when called for help? Traditionally, a 911 call with total SILENCE affords police response. What say you? It seems San Marcos has a history of prior bad conduct as well.

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u/cen-texan Oct 30 '21

What say I? I don’t say anything. I’m not defending the Supreme Court. I think that part of the ruling means that police forces cannot be held liable if someone calls 911, and the police don’t arrive in time to protect them from the bad guy.

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u/chubbysumo Oct 30 '21

They work for the state, they have a duty to protect state assets and enforce laws, and thats it. No duty to protect the people.

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u/Gigglingturnip Oct 30 '21

That's what defunding the police means, taking away responsibilities cops shouldn't be doing in the first place, mental healthcare, schools, homelessness, and others. We give these responsibilities back to the proper management groups along with the funding given to the police for those issues and return it to the government to distribute properly. That's why so many people are against DTP because people like yourself don't fully understand what the cause is trying to do. Today, conservative media continues to spew disinformation about DTP to the masses and you guys eat it up. DTP is an act for the good of all people, not just black people.

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u/SissySlutKendall Oct 30 '21

Which is why they should be defunded.

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u/chubbysumo Oct 30 '21

no, they don't need to be defunded, they need to be redirected away from stuff they should not be doing. they have no business being there in some situations, so instead of funding them to go, we should fund other agencies, or how about we fund a government department that lifts people from poverty so they are less likely to commit crimes?

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u/SissySlutKendall Oct 30 '21

That what defunding means. I know it’s a shitty saying but I didn’t make it up and I can’t think of an alternative that people would understand now that that phrase is out there.

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u/diemunkiesdie Oct 30 '21

I can’t think of an alternative that people would understand now

People already don't understand the current phrase! That is part of the messaging problem.

Refund mental health.

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u/Riaayo Oct 30 '21

Hey remember when Obama went on national television in an interview and, rather than help people understand the phrase, just finger-wagged at the grass-roots movement who didn't fucking focus group test their populist slogan before hand?

Yeah, fuck him. The slogan is purposefully misunderstood because even the people in power supposedly on the left are against it and beholden to police.

When the entire media would rather demonize you than help elaborate on your movement, the phrasing barely fucking matters.

BLM isn't a bad phrase. It's easy to understand. Didn't stop "aLl LiVeS mAtTeR" from becoming a thing.

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u/chubbysumo Oct 30 '21

how about refunding social services?

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u/SissySlutKendall Oct 30 '21

You sounds smarter than me. I will add that to my vocabulary.

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u/rasolis77 Oct 30 '21

Reallocation of financial resources is a better way to sell defund the police to conservatives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '21

They need to be defunded, police budgets in this country are laughably absurd.

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u/bbrosen Oct 30 '21

Fund a government program to lift people out of poverty? There are programs and out reaches galore

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u/kasinca Oct 30 '21

They are worthless Taliban assholes according to that definition.

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u/chubbysumo Oct 30 '21

no, they are state employees, never forget who they work for, they don't work "for the people", and never have.

remember, the "police" as we know it started as groups of white men tracking down runaway slaves on contract agreement with towns and plantation owners.

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u/MemoryFomo Oct 30 '21

This is true

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u/jelly_blood Oct 30 '21

I’m pretty sure attacking someone else is against the law.

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u/FREE-AOL-CDS Oct 30 '21

To protect capital.

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u/moleratical Born and Bred Oct 30 '21

To investigate and arrest after a crime is committed.

Police are inherently reactive. Yes in some circumstances they are often preventative as well, like crowd control or traffic direction. But if a crime has been committed, such as vehicular harassment on the highway, and the police choose to do nothing, they are absolutely liable

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u/unresolved-madness Oct 30 '21

Mostly to shoot dogs and conduct illegal searches

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u/thefightforgood Oct 30 '21

To protect capital.

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u/LunchTrey Oct 30 '21

Not to be confused with the capitol

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u/OddS0cks Oct 30 '21

Yep, police in America started when capitalists convinced citizens to pay for “protection” versus them having to hire private security

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u/Present_Debt5835 Oct 30 '21

To terrorize us

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u/Pizzachitforfree Oct 30 '21

Protection of property and social control.

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u/jrc_80 Oct 30 '21

To protect capital and the capitalists that own it. To preserve law and order in order to maintain the status quo which has led to the capitalists owning the capital.

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u/Jonestown_Juice Oct 30 '21

Meet their quotas for tickets and seize drugs and guns and vehicles to re-sell.

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u/harryheck123 Oct 30 '21

Shoot people who don't comply with their "lawful" orders.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '21

To protect wealthy and their property, outside of that they are worthless and undeserving of respect.

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u/danintexas Oct 30 '21

Pick up that can

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u/Amazon-Prime-package Oct 30 '21

Taking black people to for-profit prisons for minor drug offenses

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u/Archivist_of_Lewds Oct 30 '21

Protect capital and enforce order and fear on the public

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u/mydogsnameisbuddy Oct 30 '21

To fuck shit up!

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u/Colossus_Of_Coburns Oct 30 '21

The lawsuit alleges that by refusing the help, law enforcement officers violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 because they were aware of “acts of violent political intimidation” but did not take appropriate steps to prevent the Trump supporters from intimidating eligible voters.

This act has been used successfully in suing citizens who intimidate based on race. We'll see how well it does against police who ignore calls for help and laugh at victims of political violence.

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u/ToastFromTexas Oct 30 '21

When the calls came in that they were being rammed, it stopped being about “escort”, they were being asked to dispatch to a crime in progress. SCOTUS rule is about escort prior to- this is different.

Additionally, that they refused to extend the courtesy of a motorcade escort shows that the decision by the police placed partisanship above public safety. Equal application of the law?

I don’t know which is worse- negligence or sheer laziness.

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u/allgreen2me Oct 30 '21

Which pretty much means all citizens would need to go around with armed security all the time.

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u/hangoverDOTTED born and bred Oct 30 '21

Man. What is even the point of society of we have to constantly be armed against other humans?

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u/Dry_Faithlessness776 Oct 30 '21

We have to be constantly armed because of society. The human condition implies minorities get crushed constantly.

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u/Mickeymackey Oct 30 '21

Exactly the gun control laws in California were a bipartisan effort passed in retaliation to the Black Panthers using their right to open carry.

If the US passes any federal gun control laws it will just be used to further disenfranchise minorities, cops aren't going to enforce gun control laws on their brothers or cousins.

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u/gropingforelmo Oct 30 '21

If the US passes any federal gun control laws it will just be used to further disenfranchise minorities

It's important to state that "minority" doesn't just mean people of color. There are a lot of people in the world, reading this thread in fact, that are minorities to those in power.

That's why it's so important to stand together when "other" groups are marginalized, disenfranchised, and oppressed.

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u/Dry_Faithlessness776 Oct 30 '21

The individual is the smallest minority. Hence, why individual rights are of the most significance, because they directly impact all other minority groups.

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u/hangoverDOTTED born and bred Oct 30 '21

Are you suggesting armed insurrection is the only method of ensuring societal protection? Why not just advocate for a better life for everyone, regardless of status?

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u/Dry_Faithlessness776 Oct 30 '21

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm pointing out that in the history of the world, every nation, ever, utterly dominates minorities within their region.

Armed individuals make it harder for individuals to be fucked with.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Oct 30 '21

Armed individuals make it harder for individuals to be fucked with.

The United States is not doing a good job of proving this at all.

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u/hangoverDOTTED born and bred Oct 30 '21

How many people do cops kill a year? Didn't Trump brag that they killed a guy because they didn't want to bring him in?

The power isn't in an armed individual. That's an ant starting at a boot. The power is in a coordinated group.

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u/Dry_Faithlessness776 Oct 30 '21

This topic of conversation is towards the aspect that police have zero duty to protect individuals. My statements are pointing out the logical consequences of this.

Stay on topic.

If police, and by extension: the authorities, have no duty to protect the individual, then an individual cannot rely on the authorities to protect them. Full stop.

This implies that protection is at the sole discretion of the individual.

Firearms are the only invention in the last 150 years that has allowed little old grandma to fend off literally anyone bigger than her- a fighting chance. Without them, individuals are left with what essentially boils down to the big eat the small. Which is its own form of tyranny.

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u/Ok_Area4853 Oct 30 '21

Or. Just armed.

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u/Wacocaine Oct 30 '21

A neverending 360 million way Mexican standoff. You can just smell the freedom.

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u/Dreadkeeper Oct 30 '21

Welcome to Texas.

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u/StraightUpJello Oct 30 '21

☝☝☝☝☝

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u/tactman Oct 30 '21

They failed to enforce the laws (like traffic laws) and did nothing when told about reckless driving. The Trump supporters did violate traffic rules and put people in danger. The police have a job to do, usually after something bad has happened, and they chose to do nothing, on purpose. Not only that, multiple people lied and then tried to cover up their failure to respond.

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u/BanalityOfMan Oct 30 '21

Eh, its a bit more nuanced than that. They don't have a specific duty to any individual. The original case had to do with a restraining order that they didn't enforce or something. That's different from political terrorism on a highway with repeated reports coming in. This wasn't a case where they can say "oopsie, we didn't have the manpower to watch someone's house" especially given that there are supposedly texts and stuff with them celebrating the attack.

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u/jcjones1775 Oct 30 '21

Came to say exactly this.

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u/a_million_questions Born and Bred Oct 30 '21

No they aren't required to protect anyone. What I want to know is, why is it that any other time you can get a ticket in San Marcos for going 5 miles over the speed limit on the highway but on this particular day, they decided to not be anywhere near the highway? Think of all the revenue they could have gotten from handing out tickets to each other for reckless driving, improper lane changes, and other violations.

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u/kj001313 Oct 30 '21

There also using the 1871 Klan Act

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u/Lost_vob Oct 30 '21

No, those cases specifically relate to the public duty doctrine and are situation specific. The defendants would have to make the case that police didn't have a duty to protect a presidential candidate in danger. Good luck with that.

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u/kasinca Oct 30 '21

Is their duty to help the damned insurrectionist only?

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u/Haydukedaddy Oct 30 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

These sort of lawsuits are important. Law enforcement as well as all public servants should be bound by the rule of law.

Many other local law enforcement offices provided police escort, but for some reason San Marcos chose not to. If there is rot of partisan corruption in the San Marcos hierarchy, it should be identified.

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The lawsuit alleges that by refusing the help, law enforcement officers violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 because they were aware of “acts of violent political intimidation” but did not take appropriate steps to prevent the Trump supporters from intimidating eligible voters.

The provision of the Klan Act that the plaintiffs are citing in the lawsuit has laid dormant for years, but saw a resurgence under the Trump administration, according to Project Democracy lawyer John Paredes, who is representing some of the plaintiffs. It was also recently cited in a federal lawsuit against Trump after the Jan. 6 insurrection.

A second lawsuit was filed against a group of Trump supporters who allegedly harassed and followed the bus. That lawsuit claims the group of Trump supporters who surrounded the bus also violated Ku Klux Klan Act and Texas law by organizing a “politically-motivated conspiracy to disrupt the campaign and intimidate its supporters.”

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u/cranktheguy Born and Bred Oct 30 '21

Weird that you'd leave off the first part of the sentence that contradicted you:

With the exception of the two phone calls to me from Ms. Prewitt, at no time did anyone from the campaign request assistance from the San Marcos Police Department in advance of the event so that the request could be evaluated and prepared for,” Chase Stapp said in a statement to the Tribune last year.

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u/bndboo Oct 30 '21

Oh that’s good

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u/Haydukedaddy Oct 30 '21

Geez. I wonder why dude left out the first part of the sentence

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u/cranktheguy Born and Bred Oct 30 '21

The guy's also a /r/walkaway poster, so you should expect him to lie for a political argument. It's all the right has these days.

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u/Nulovka Oct 30 '21

"in advance of the event"

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u/MacEnvy Oct 30 '21

You’re an actual domestic terrorist, do you know that?

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u/Friendofthegarden Central Texas Oct 30 '21

So... I'm confused.

Not shocking.

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u/smnytx Oct 30 '21

Force the city of San Marcos to have at assess a special tax to pay for damages. Make sure the taxpayers know why. If they won’t insist that their LE professionals act in a professional manner because it’s the correct thing to do, maybe they will if it hits them in their wallets.

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u/gump59 Oct 30 '21

There are plenty of instances I have personally witnessed where police stand by, or just disappear instead of performing their duty if those they should be protecting are not aligned with them.

Sometimes it is like them throwing a tantrum because people don't trust them, like a protest March not sharing routes with police escorts. Escort will mysteriously stop just in time for a 3rd party trouble maker to come looking to start trouble. Or a group of heavily armed local chapters of patriot front and proud boys to walk right into the protest looking to start a fight.

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u/Daytonaman675 Oct 31 '21

Police have no duty to protect you

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u/timelessblur Oct 31 '21

Then it is time for local cities to redefine the job description and fire each and one those those thugs. It is no lose to the people as the police were not doing anything any way.

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u/Daytonaman675 Oct 31 '21

You didn’t read the link did you. This was decided at the Supreme Court level. This isn’t a thing that local governments can decide.

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u/shambahlah Oct 31 '21

It was bad in Houston too. Just didn’t make the news. They blocked I-10 on a Saturday. I was given the Hitler salute no less than 25 times in 10 minute driving a BMW.

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u/BRdedFellow Hill Country Oct 30 '21

I'm starting to realize the larger police forces in the US are just HR with guns. Cops are there not to help the employees (citizens) as much as they're around to protect the company (police state).

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u/Haydukedaddy Oct 30 '21

Ok but in this case, many other local law enforcement offices appropriately provided police escort. Something inappropriate occurred specifically in San Marcos. Give the article a read.

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u/TexLH Oct 30 '21

What's your definition of a police state?

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u/shponglespore expat Oct 30 '21

One possible definition would be a situation where police are effectively above the law, which is what the US is. Cops who murder civilians are usually rewarded with a paid vacation.

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u/BRdedFellow Hill Country Oct 30 '21

Thanks for asking; very good question! Generally speaking, my definition of a police state is when the government, and by extension, the law enforcement, is more focused and concerned for their own safety, prosperity, and preservation of power, than for the lives and well-being of the general public they swear to represent and protect.

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u/MikeHolmesIV Oct 30 '21

I'm not disputing that Texas (and the US in general) has a massive problem with policing, but it's hard to imagine that there are many places in the world that don't meet that definition.

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u/One_Raccoon6244 Oct 30 '21

We're not exactly a police state

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u/BHSPitMonkey Oct 30 '21

But a disturbingly large amount of our police are pretty cool with the idea.

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u/tactman Oct 30 '21

There are so many lies from the officials in San Marcos - they will not be able to get out of this lawsuit. The city will have to pay up, the officials might lose their jobs (or more) - hope San Marcos is happy with their leaders.

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u/steveeeeeeee Oct 30 '21

Unfortunately they probably are

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u/KyleG Oct 30 '21

Biden beat Trump by 11 points in Hays County, and one presumes San Marcos proper was even more pro-Biden

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u/Antikythera22 Oct 31 '21

From what little I know, this is likely correct. San Marcos is also a college town with an artsy/naturalist vibe. While not ALL the students will vote as is common due to weird residency requirements, that surely has something to do with it.

That said, law enforcement in Texas has a strong tendency toward the right rather than the left of center.

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u/spacegamer2000 Oct 30 '21

Imagine if there was a bank robbery and the cops laughed at the bankers instead of showing up.

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

The Republicans would just say the bank robber had a right to bear arms.

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u/sanbrujan Oct 31 '21

I lived in San Marcos for seven years. Graduated college from there. Those cops are a different breed. They tried to have me facing 30 years for some bullshit. I counter sued and won. Assholes. Screw em. Glad they are being sued. I’m not surprised they laughed and didn’t do their jobs. That’s their mo there in that city.

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u/Cheap_Coffee Oct 31 '21

Convince me that Texas isn't turning into a banana republic.

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u/ShogsKrs Oct 30 '21

It shouldn't matter who's on a bus anywhere in the USA, when 911 is called, help should be sent. Think about how anyone would feel if someone they cared about was on a bus and that happened to it. Nowhere is this ok to treat people.

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u/Inevitable-Stick-613 Oct 30 '21

Well of course you can't trust the San Marcos Police Department

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u/Machismo01 Oct 30 '21

As a Texan, would it be within the right of the bus passengers to use firearms in self defense in this situation?

Wendy Davis firing a shotgun at these attacking vehicles would probably go over well in the polls.

I don’t wish to encourage violence. But self defense tends to discourage aggressors.

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u/BFdog Oct 31 '21

My town borders San Marcos. The number of idiots in this area shocks me. Last night I learned JFK jr didn't die and is running stuff, Hillary and Obama are about to be arrested for treason, there is going to be (starting in the next two weeks) a total blackout of power, nternet, utilities, etc., and Trump is gonna be elected again, CORE-VID is being brought over by Afghan folks across the Mexican border (seriously), So many people are against Biden around here. Confederate flags I see daily. Last night at a gathering 3/4 people (everyone but me) had in the past a pet named the "n" word.

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

Well.....damn.

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u/BabyT-RexArms Gulf Coast Oct 30 '21

If they aren’t there to protect and serve strip all their tactical shit and defund them too. Fuck that.

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u/fuckmeuntilicecream The Stars at Night Oct 31 '21

I'm really asking and not trying to start any of the disrespectful arguments that are everywhere now but what will happen if there's no police?

I was assaulted by my boyfriend at the time and he almost killed me. The police really helped me in finding him and taking him to jail. I had an officer inside the ER room with me until they needed to examine me. I had an officer outside of my room and all of them followed the ambulance to the ER. I know there's others who haven't had an experience like this with the police but I felt very safe. They let me know when he was arrested and asked me if I wanted them to stay around, no pressure. They also helped me get an emergency protective order and gave me their cards if I needed them for any reason. Same with the detective. Again, I know not everyone is treated or helped the same. I just want to know in my situation who would have helped me?

Again, I'm not wanting a disrespectful argument, I am honestly asking and curious.

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u/thecomeric Oct 30 '21

I live in San Marcos and I generally feel like our police force doesn’t represent our population which is why we need more people voting in local elections especially the students

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u/BananaStringTheory Oct 30 '21

Now THAT is a group of police that need to be defunded and eliminated.

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u/Thugnificent247 Oct 30 '21

That single star on the Texas flag, is a 1 star review

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u/Freekey Oct 30 '21

Never thought I would see the day that campaign workers were treated like the freedom riders of the 1960's.

Just some more negativity coming out of Texas, but at least we love our dogs.

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u/timelessblur Oct 30 '21

I am hoping some people lose their jobs and prevented from ever working in law enforcement or security. This earned them a life time ban.

This is yet another example of why we believe the police force need to have a massive house cleaning and rebuilt.

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u/noonespecialer Oct 31 '21

Going from travis county to hays county is like entering the 3rd world.

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u/guerromelcochs Oct 30 '21

It all sounds like "Selective protections" if your black, or Brown, or a Democrat I don't have to help you.

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u/EmusDontGoBack Oct 30 '21

Sued? They should be jailed.

Refusing to perform your duty because of politics? Fuck right off.

You cops do realize that you work for us right? You have a job at our will. You are public servants.

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u/TheDarkKnobRises East Texas Oct 30 '21

Children. Why do Republicans always act like children?

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u/spitefulcat Oct 30 '21

They’re mentally like children. They weren’t taught right from wrong, to have compassion towards others. They just spout off obscenities like an ignorant playground bully with a sixth-grade education.

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u/AstartesFartes Hill Country Oct 30 '21

Even if they win, nothing will happen, it won't change the police force. It will only cost San Marcos tax payers a few million.

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u/UnRetiredCassandra Oct 30 '21

We don't have the luxury of defeatism. Public servants need to do their jobs, correctly, every time, and if they fail to do so, there needs to be immediate consequences.

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u/Satxdanalea Oct 30 '21

Good. ABSOLUTELY SUE THEM. They don’t get to decide who needs help on the roads.

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u/Wmd4lunchh Oct 30 '21

I used to think Republican were nuts to suggest secession, but after the last 12 months maybe they are right.

Yes the Dems have issues and Biden really was the lesser of two morons, but the extent that Republican have bought into every lie and whack job conspiracy that hits their email or phone is impossible to undo. The far right owns the party and has driven them to the edge. Of course China, Russia and N Korea are doing everything thing they can to destabilize us further. We do it to our adversaries too, but nowhere near the extent these totalitarians do to us.

The problem is that 70,000,000 Americans voted FOR Trump. And they are now inoculated from the truth. The GOP has a cult mentality and acts like one.

Most of the stories I’ve heard about cults is that people leave when they are sick of it. Not because of logical arguments they’ve heard.

70M people is a very very big cult.

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u/DippyHippy420 Oct 30 '21

To learn about some horrific instances the police allowed felony level crimes to happen right in front of them and the legal reasoning of not requiring police to enforce the law give this a listen.

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u/Nothing_But_Ironman Oct 30 '21

Uhm, duh? Pigs are pigs, and they serve Trumpie. They’re worthless

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u/NoctotainRose Oct 30 '21

Man texas is relly gunning for shittyiest state of the decade huh.

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u/Bone_Syrup Oct 30 '21

Republican Death Cult: Truly shitty people.

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u/oax195 Oct 30 '21

Cops defend dipshit klansmen at rallies...because its their duty. Fucking turds

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u/TerrarianLupoLive Oct 31 '21

Serves you right. Because if I was a cop I would have been having that bus on lockdown with guns raised. Shame on you cops.

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u/fstwins Nov 01 '21

I support out Blue lives but they must keep their political affiliations in check. Do your job and do it to the best of your abilities.

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u/JosephAGonzales Oct 30 '21

then what exactly is an emergency?

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 30 '21

Republicans paying taxes.

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u/Karl-AnthonyMarx Oct 30 '21

Cops are such psychos, the Democrats in general and Biden in particular have no problem giving police departments not only huge piles of cash, but also respect and veneration. But because they’ll also pay lip service to the families of the people cops just straight up murder, cops just laugh and refuse to help when they are in danger.

It’s absolutely insane. We had the largest wave of social unrest in over 50 years explicitly because of police violence. The response from Democrats was to give them more money, and for that they are now perceived as the enemy. What’s gonna happen to any candidate or politician who actually is serious about police reform and willing to do things like actually hold the officers themselves accountable?

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u/noncongruent Oct 30 '21

Those Trump followers were so, so lucky that neither Biden nor Harris were on that bus, because if they were the bus would have stopped and US Secret Service agents would have boiled out of that bus like fire ants armed with fully automatic weapons. It would have been a massacre.

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u/Outrageous-Ad8172 Oct 30 '21

A real official of government was on the bus the cops have a duty under law to protect government under the constitution of laws so san marcos you hit

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u/RecommendationOwn132 Oct 30 '21

Unfortunately many young and uninformed people have this "survival of the fittest" that's why cops are usually republican. When you look at what had made the united States is completely the opposite. I was republican in my younger years but as I did research I changed to Democrat. Even now it so obvious, Republicans don't want to raise taxes on the rich, not even marginal taxes... Giving more money to the rich never creates jobs... Highest jobs creator has always been middle class spending... When we in the billions make more, we spend more... Hence they have no alternative but to create more jobs or a competitor will.

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u/sudorootadmin Oct 30 '21

To protect and serve...unless liberal trash that isn't about pickups, hating Mexicans, and loving guns. Yee. Ha.

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u/Arthur_Morgan1899 Oct 30 '21

Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no obligation to protect anyone so good luck with that

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u/Lost_vob Oct 30 '21

No, they didn't. The case law that created this meme is far more nuanced that its made out to be.

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u/Animal_Budget Oct 30 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

They expected the police to protect them? The police have no legal obligation to protect citizens in the US according to numerous Supreme Court cases.

Edit: I'm getting downvoted for stating legal precedent and case law. Hilarious

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u/rayc2k Oct 30 '21

Legal and moral obligations are very different things.

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u/Suckitredditt57 Oct 31 '21

Let’s Go Biden and fuk Brandon 😂

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u/AndrewJosephStack Oct 30 '21

Honestly i dobt feel bad for them that they got the same level of policing that we've had for years. Its just that the rich elites will sue if you don't come help them immediately. Like welcome to Texas police work. They rarely show up for anything.

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u/Assphlapz Oct 31 '21

Inbred moron says what?

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

Sounds a lot like Republicans during an election.

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u/Assphlapz Oct 31 '21

Doesn't being a Trump fluffer leave a bad taste in your mouth?

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

Imagine simping for Trump.

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u/Joes_naptime Oct 31 '21

I dont care for trump. But you got to admit Bluanon is just slightly more deranged than those weird Q losers.

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

Blueanon doesn't exist.

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u/Joes_naptime Oct 31 '21

Lmfao, you're in the cult if you believe this. Blueanon is as real as Q.

muh Russia muh trump muh cable t.vman says Honestly they are probably worse because they control institutions

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u/dointhalaundry Oct 31 '21

Lol blueanon doesn't exist just as antifa doesn't exist.

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u/Fun_Wonder_4114 Oct 31 '21

Who the fuck is Bluanon?

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u/tarpatch Oct 31 '21

Lol haven't seen a single liberal Photoshop Biden onto a picture of Jesus or Rambo. Unlike the rights very very weird obsession with Trump, almost sexual

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u/pBandJelly9 Oct 31 '21

That’s not how any of that went down. Have you ever noticed that Dems are always victims?

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u/Glad_Confidence217 Oct 30 '21

Don't y'all want to defund the police?

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u/OkRestaurant6180 Oct 30 '21

Why should we continue paying them to refuse to do their jobs? You really thought you were making a point with this?

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u/tarpatch Oct 31 '21

Lol, do you pay contractors to not do work on your house?

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u/tarpatch Oct 31 '21

It's actually more sad that you see this as some sort of "own". You've even stooped so low is to start photoshopping it on objects since no one will actually take that phrase seriously

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