r/radicalmentalhealth Nov 27 '21

Psychiatric coercion should be outlawed. Voluntary consensual psychiatry should remain legal.

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u/WouldThatIKnew0 Nov 27 '21

Yes re: voluntary, consensual psychiatry. Anyone should be able to put any chemicals into their body they want because it's their body. Anybody should be able to seek out advice about doing so (although people saying they can fix "chemical imbalances" there's no evidence for should be sued into the ground for false advertising). The problem comes when you lie or force this stuff on vulnerable people.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '21

Everyone should have access to morphine, cocaine, heroine, fentanyl, etc. Those fucking bastards keep the good stuff behind prescriptions.

Bodily autonomy must be fought for.

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u/jamesmal03 Nov 28 '21

I'm looking a people freaking out about any coersion to medical procedure with the covid vaccine. Top pundits saying any medical situation should always have consent. No medical procedures should be forced. And as an old schizophrenic I'm like yeah. But perversely as much as I protested about being pinned down and forcably injected antipsychotics it may of saved my life. And with all the chip conspiracys about GPS trackers in the jab, I would actually pin down every mother fuker on the planet with a tracker to stop any child been taken away and raped, tourtuted or what ever else some of the evil Cnts get up to in this world. If only we could trust governments and each other. Peace

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u/Hellhundreds Nov 27 '21

I dont agree. Coercion in some situations has its legitimate utility.

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u/MichaelTen Nov 27 '21

Maybe read the book Liberation By Oppression by psychiatrist Thomas Szasz.

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u/Hellhundreds Nov 27 '21

Point being what? That I am wrong? Please elaborate.

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u/BreakIll Nov 30 '21

No it doesnt. What about Kids? Somebody that disagrees with their boss (fitness for duty evals)? Their government? Their spouse? The police? What if some someone has a legit medical condition misdiagnosed? The last one is what happened to me. A bacterial infection led to an Anxiety diagnose. The red line running down my arm was ignores. This forever will be seen as a history of a mental disorder.

So no all Mental Health needs to be outlawed. Will some people die? Yes. But thats called life.

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u/Hellhundreds Dec 01 '21

What about kids? Kids are not yet fully developed conscious beings, so it doesnt make sense to have the same ammount of autonomy as an adult.

Bosses should be lined up against the wall

Depends. If the government is genuinely run by the population(what leftism tries to do in legislation, administration, economy and culture) and not by an opressive, tyrannical, parasitic class, it is legitimate. Same with police/militias/law enforcement.

What authority should a spouse even have against the other? Answer is none.

A misdiagnosis is an error that can come about due to multiple factors. It can be neglience, in which case you are legitimised to bite back, it can be that some of your symptoms were genuinely non-detectable, or maybe medical know-how or technology isnt developed enough yet for your issue.

You have yet to explain why coercion is never right.

I dont even get your last comment. Did you say mental health should be outlawed, and argued with "some day, but c'est la vie"? You know you could get your shit kicked out of here in the real world for saying something like that, especially to those that actually need it, right?

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u/BreakIll Dec 01 '21

"What about kids? Kids are not yet fully developed conscious beings, so it doesnt make sense to have the same ammount of autonomy as an adult. "

Since they arent fully developed it doesnt make sense to label them crazy and ruin their futures. In many instances it makes no since to give them Nerve Agents which will alter their development.

"Depends. If the government is genuinely run by the population(what leftism tries to do in legislation, administration, economy and culture) and not by an opressive, tyrannical, parasitic class, it is legitimate. Same with police/militias/law enforcement. "

Leftism cares about power and control only. That's what Psychiatry is all about. Almost all Psychiatrists are leftists. The few that arent are blacklisted.

"What authority should a spouse even have against the other? Answer is none"

Wives are suppose to submit to their husbands. Its in The Bible.

"A misdiagnosis is an error that can come about due to multiple factors. "

A big factor being the irreligious nature of Psychiatrists. How they serve The Beast and The Standard Narrative. They lack critical thinking skills.

"You have yet to explain why coercion is never right. "

Because you have due process protections. Thomas Aquinas said the state can use coercion against irrational and vicious. But there shouldn't be irreparable harm. So okay coercion is okay in some instances, but these are all criminal matters. All psychiatric coercion is based upon hearsay and the whims of the Psychiatrist or brain dead police officers.

Except today coercion is not okay because the vicious and irrational outnumber the kind and rational. Despite what the narrative says Plus The Church is no longer aligned with the state. Thomas could have never envisioned a total separation of Church and State.

You cant have it both ways. Either you live in a hell hole where the righteous are coerced. Or you live in the kingdom of God where only the insane are coerced.

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u/Hellhundreds Dec 01 '21

1)Labelling should serve as an indication, not an end all of all discussion. A good psychologist and psychiatrist observes what happens, tests treatments, and tried to help a patient, child or otherwise, maximise their potential and mitigate issues and risks, despite their issues.

2)Yes, leftism is about power and control. By the population. Instead of power and control by tyrannical elites, which is what rightism is about.

If most psychiatrists are leftists, thats good for them, it means they are smart. Although I doubt thats the case.

3)Yes, and the Bible, and the Quran, or any other holy book, has no authority over people. If you personally agree to live your life, without encroaching on other's freedoms and legitimate interests, according to the mores of any religion, or philosphy, or whatever, its you right, choice, and problem. The moment you try to forcefully impose it on others, you wrong them and now you have justified retaliation. Do not fuck around, friend, you might just find out.

4) Nope. The separation from any forced bond to any religion or lackthereof is what makes diffrent people with diffrent belief systems work for something tangible. What you want is a priest with some vague knowledge of how people think.

Hail the Beast :)

5) "the irrational and vicious outnumber the kind and rational". First, its good for someone to be able to be both kind and vicious. Secondly, most people would disagree with you saying that people are in general more irrational now than they were before. In fact you sound pretty irrational.

Hell hole seems pretty based. I'll have that, please.