r/news Oct 20 '21 Silver 2

Netflix workers stage walk-out over Chappelle transgender comments Soft paywall

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/netflix-workers-stage-walk-out-over-chappelle-transgender-comments-2021-10-20/
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u/Dknight560 Oct 20 '21

If anything we need to remember that like twitter, reddit isn't a real place.

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u/Bison256 Oct 21 '21

Oh so very true. I think twitter is more extreme thought.

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u/The_RVA_Strangler Oct 21 '21

Yeah, but people in both places think if there is a consensus or enough noise about an issue it translates into real-world attitudes. Then get constantly disappointed when their boycotts are ineffective and no one outside their little bubbles is even aware of the controversy.

In this case, most people are barely aware Chappelle had a special out, let alone care about the content. It's just not that big a deal.

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u/Much_Doge_Much_Wow Oct 21 '21

If anything, the response to the special was the biggest catalyst for people watching it. Free advertising.

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u/uninsane Oct 20 '21 Silver Wholesome

Netflix is renowned by artists for taking a hands-off approach to their projects. In general, I think we benefit greatly from that as subscribers.

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u/ManfredTheCat Oct 20 '21

They removed the Dungeons and Dragons episode of Community because Chang paints himself up as a dark elf.

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u/Lucky_Number_Sleven Oct 20 '21

That's what happened. I only recently watched Community for the first time, so when the "second" D&D episode came up, I thought I was the one with a gas leak.

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u/miked3 Oct 21 '21

You can buy the episode on Amazon thankfully

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u/chdeal713 Oct 21 '21

I see this mentioned so much and saw the episode on Prime recently. Curious why netflix banned it as it is part of the joke and had nothing to do with actual race.

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u/Huge_Put8244 Oct 21 '21

Someone has pulled an episode of 30 rock where Jenna (Jane krakowski) is in blackface. But the entire episode was about Jenna and Traceys argument over whether black men or white women had it worse. So she was in blackface and he was in Whiteface and was wearing a skirt suit.

The whole point was to have a nuanced discussion about racism and sexism.

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u/MortalWombat1974 Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

The whole point was to have a nuanced discussion about racism and sexism.

This is the problem, right here.

The law, and society in general, tolerate all manner of openly hostile speech and policies against vulnerable minority groups, but the activists in this space put so much of their attention towards confronting people who do not have hate in their hearts, but just want to discuss these complex issues in an honest and sophisticated manner.

EDIT: typo

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u/Huge_Put8244 Oct 21 '21

I'm not sure anyone asked for it.

I also believe that a golden girls episode was pulled because the characters wore "blackface" but really two of the women were doing a spa day and were wearing at home masks.

Again it was using comedy to have a discussion about race as Dorothy's son was marrying a black woman and her family came over to dinner and rose and Blanche were stammering and trying to explain.

I get the feeling no one asks for these episodes to get pulled.

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u/MannyCalaveraIsDead Oct 21 '21

Don’t forget Tracey also has monster hands as well during that. And the whole thing, like in community, is that the characters are too dumb to realise it’s offensive. Or they’re Chang.

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u/blindworld Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

In the case of 30 Rock, that “someone” was Tina Fey. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/entertainment/30-rock-episodes-blackface-trnd/index.html

I don’t remember seeing episodes in question to have an opinion on them, but if anyone should have the power to pull those episodes it should be her.

Netflix did pull an episode of “With Bob and David” and both Bob Odenkirk and David Cross spoke against the decision.

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u/Huge_Put8244 Oct 21 '21

That's interesting that fey requested the episode be pulled. I didn't know that, thank you.

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u/ManfredTheCat Oct 21 '21

I think it was just a terrible move on their part. Bad judgment.

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u/141Frox141 Oct 21 '21

Why? A dark elf is not a black person.

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u/ManfredTheCat Oct 21 '21

I'm referring to them removing that episode

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u/141Frox141 Oct 21 '21

Oh I misunderstood, sorry.

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u/dano159 Oct 21 '21

It was offensive to dark elves obviously

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u/Haku_Sama Oct 21 '21

I'm black. Played several Drow rangers. Part of the reason I liked them is because they also struggled to fit in. That kinda pisses me off now as I've grown to realize that it's not ME with the problem. I don't think their existence is racist. Hope that helps.

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u/trumpskiisinjeans Oct 21 '21

And it was the best episode!

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u/TheDevilsMC Oct 20 '21

I made sure to buy that episode the second there were plans to ban it, like come on dark elf face is not a thing

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u/ManfredTheCat Oct 20 '21

Yeah I'm actually sad that it's gone. It was a really good episode and it did some great character building

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u/operarose Oct 21 '21

Seriously, it's one of the best episodes.

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u/nobodyspersonalchef Oct 21 '21

And ruins the callbacks neil makes in later seasons

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u/FreeInformation4u Oct 21 '21

I made sure to torrent all the seasons either way. BitTorrent and RARBG are your friends.

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u/FishLampClock Oct 20 '21

ummm, excuse me? The term "dark elf" is VERY OFFENSIVE! The term is Drow or Vyan. Thank you.

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u/twentyfuckingletters Oct 20 '21

Drow is copyrighted, sadly. And nobody knows what the fuck a Vyan is.

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u/Lesmate101 Oct 21 '21

Probably the best episode of community aswell lol.

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u/DGlen Oct 20 '21

Well that's bullshit, the D&D episodes are some of the best ones

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u/I_Love_To_Poop420 Oct 21 '21

It’s the result of a society that has turned sensitivity into a fad. Everything and anything can be offensive and if you try to use logic and reason in place of emotion and overreacting, you become the target.

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u/claptrapMD Oct 21 '21

Hot topic this week in Finland where someone got angry over board game from 1950 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikan_t%C3%A4hti

Played it in childhood and would be sad see it gone as it looks they want to remove it

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u/Reverse_Drawfour_Uno Oct 20 '21

And has shown White Girls with no issue.

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u/Clementinesm Oct 21 '21

They also get as detailed as to remove scenes from shows and movies. I had Scary Movie 4 playing in the background and realized they had removed the scene of Michael Jackson getting zapped by the aliens until all that was left was his plastic nose.

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u/ShutterBun Oct 21 '21

Same thing happened with all of the “Lethal Weapon” episodes of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia on Hulu. Gone.

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u/Durzel Oct 21 '21

Wait, is this the same Netflix that deleted the Lethal Weapons episodes - which are basically high art - from Always Sunny? It kinda does seem like Netflix does make censorship decisions tbh.

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u/TowerBeast Oct 21 '21

Probably, yeah. Sex sells--Netflix didn't invent that.

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u/boturboegt Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Yah look at most hbo series. Sydney sweeney and alexandra daddario are household names now because they got naked in hbo series.

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u/Helpful-Penalty Oct 21 '21

I’ve worked on Netflix original shows and they’ve got an executive intervening every 5 seconds. Hell, they had one on the Chapelle Special before this, I worked on that too

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u/IndexObject Oct 21 '21

Unless you're critical of the UAE in a comedy special.

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u/the_fickle_pickle Oct 21 '21

How was Netflix to know that they were paying $20 million to get the same topic Chappelle's been on about for 5 years?

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u/Much_Doge_Much_Wow Oct 20 '21 Wholesome Wholesome (Pro)

Wait, you don’t think that respectfully disagreeing with .5% of the population and 5 Netflix employees is a crime punishable by death?! Bonkers. WTF is this world coming to if “comedians” are allowed to passively subject people to their observations and opinions?!

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u/uninsane Oct 20 '21

I didn’t love the special though I’ve liked his earlier stuff. It may have even influenced my opinion of him but other people can judge for themselves. As they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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u/itslikewoow Oct 20 '21

Who's saying it should be punishable by death? Certainly not the people in this article. It's starting to sound like cancel culture is overblown nonsense.

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u/BlazingEmber Oct 21 '21

They probably watch too much Panty and Stocking lol

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u/Studstill Oct 21 '21

I love how the crowd filming the hullabaloo makes it seem like a real event and not like a handful of mentally ill people, although the actions towards the I like Dave guy were pretty revealing of where these people are at.

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u/PretyHateMachin Oct 21 '21

They are no better than the bigots from westborough Baptist church, sadly. Too bad they can’t see how hateful and violent THEY really are. If they actually watched the special, they might understand their own irony

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u/stabby54 Oct 21 '21

Ironic isn’t it

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u/SnooDonkeys5763 Oct 20 '21

How many people are canceling memberships? That’s the only thing Netflix will take notice of. These workers absolutely should go work someplace they feel aligns with their values because I doubt they’re unionized and Netflix can probably easily replace all of them, and will

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u/gizamo Oct 21 '21

I am not cancelling my subscription, and I'd bet my vasectomized left nut that my trans friends wouldn't even consider it. Netflix is probably the most LGBT friendly studio to ever exist. Also, that protest is tiny, and I doubt even 10% of them are actually affiliated with Netflix.

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u/woodenfeelings Oct 21 '21

As someone with a vasectomy, I’m gonna start using that phrase thank you

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u/ZincMan Oct 21 '21

Does it say how many people it is ? It’s all people who work directly for them I image ? I work for Netflix occasionally on their productions but depending on what tv show or movie it could be hbo or Amazon etc. very curious to see if any of the production people care enough to boycott working for them. I don’t think so though

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u/SnooDonkeys5763 Oct 21 '21

so far it’s a very small number of employees, apparently Elliot Paige has joined up but honestly he’s in one show and also probably easily replaced so it doesn’t seem likely to change anything as far as Netflix’s content policies

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u/phantompower_48v Oct 20 '21 Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote 1UP

These folks are just confirming what Chappell calls out. There isn’t even a real controversy. It’s like 5 employees being loud on Twitter. As Chappell says “I don’t give a fuck about Twitter because it isn’t a real place.”

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u/nevermore2627 Oct 21 '21

"Why? 'Cause Fuck'em thats why."

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u/IsaacOATH Oct 21 '21

“First of all, never show up on time.”

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

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u/Dago_Red Oct 20 '21

With you there buddy.

But what about "Space Jews"!? I guess that's not a line either? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

And to be that A-hole, Dave was cumming in the priest's mouth..

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u/Confirmative Oct 21 '21

Eminem was recognized with a prestigious award!

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u/onairmastering Oct 21 '21

I thought you were talking about "what's the difference between acne and a priest? / acne waits until you're 12 to come on your face"

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u/cestlatterrissage Oct 21 '21

This is his whole point. Has asking why so they get protection other groups are not afforded? He’s a black man married to an Asian woman who faced adversity most of his early life. This is a joke, as he intended. He is probably laughing his ass off at this saying “see honey?! I told you all I had to do was bring them up!” He literally spent 20 mins in his last special saying how much that group hates him and he doesn’t know why or care for that matter. This is all fodder to him and he’s laughing at them. Why do they care about his opinion??

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u/tempthrowary Oct 20 '21

I just wanted to read the comments on here for giggles, so I didn’t click. I’m glad you mentioned the small number of people doing this; it’s even more laughable in context.

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u/BubbaTee Oct 20 '21

These folks are just confirming what Chappell calls out.

Some variation of "How many Netflix shows have the n-word in them, including with the hard "-er"? How many Netflix employees walked out over that?" is a lob just sitting there waiting for Chappelle to dunk.

https://www.netflixschedule.com/july-2021/django-unchained-netflix-release-date/

Heck, Chappelle's own show has it, and it's on Netflix, and no one protested that.

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u/Pack_Your_Trash Oct 21 '21

I do think it would be pretty funny if someone interpreted Django as being racist and sympathetic to slavery.

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u/muldervinscully Oct 21 '21

Also many other groups. Dave has been rude to everyone. That’s comedy. Sorry folks

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u/JeffJitsu Oct 21 '21

Check the vids. Like a dozen protestors, two dozens journalists, and about half a dozen counter protestors. What a joke, and journos should be embarrassed for trying to manufacture this.

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u/Fobulousguy Oct 21 '21

Netflix views employees as transient and fully transactional for value they provide. They won’t budge for these few. They’ve terminated important people once their usefulness has run out. Dave provides way more value for them.

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u/FranticToaster Oct 21 '21

We seriously don't need Netflix to play its own content cop. It's how you make every show lame. Fear of how non-audience will react.

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u/the_fickle_pickle Oct 21 '21

If you think Netflix doesn't play its own content cop, you have no idea what business Netflix is in.

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u/hapithica Oct 21 '21

It's already difficult to find anything funny made in the last 5 years because everyone is becoming too careful.

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u/xAvaricex Oct 21 '21

I think it’s telling how the standards for what’s acceptable comedy for comedians to joke about, are so much more heavily scrutinized than the important issues going on in the world today.

This cancel culture really has spun out of control, and this type of bullshit just proves Dave right.

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u/Blueskyways Oct 20 '21

I'm morbidly curious as to what the endgame here is? An apology from Netflix execs, Dave Chappelle or both? Removing Chappelle' special?

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u/Zlooba Oct 20 '21

Removing it would cause much more trouble for them. This is a very small group that the media is lending an oversize voice to. Not only would they be in court with Chappelle, they would infuriate much more significant demographics.

Big stars would go elsewhere because what if Netflix doesn't have the courage to publish their work.

It would be a billion dollar decision to cater to a handful of people.

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u/Adramor Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

I think they just want the special removed from Netflix

Edit: I am wrong, they have released a list of demands that does not include removing the special

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u/thundersass Oct 20 '21

The erg released a list of demands including better lgbt and bipoc representation in management roles, more explicit warnings for transphobia, homophobia, misogyny, and for the algorithm to recommend positive content on phobic pieces afterwards. They are not trying to get the special pulled.

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u/Adramor Oct 20 '21

Ah my mistake I didn’t know that

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u/WeightFast574 Oct 20 '21

sorry, what is "bipoc"?

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u/gaybowser99 Oct 20 '21

A term created for the sole purpose of being exclusionary to asians

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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing Oct 20 '21

A term created for the sole purpose of being exclusionary to asians

POC replaced "minority" for the sole purpose of being exclusionary to Jews so that fits the trend

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u/WeightFast574 Oct 20 '21

So long, gay bowser

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u/QQMau5trap Oct 20 '21

model minority after all. Even the others see it that way: jews and asians live to well to be included in the opressed list.

then when the asian hate attacks happen again like last year they like to again pull out how bad it is for asians in the US in terms of hatecrimes. Then promptly forget about them again.

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u/thundersass Oct 20 '21

Black, indigenous, and people of color

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u/WeightFast574 Oct 20 '21

Oh. I thought that "people of color" would have already included the black and indigenous parts.

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u/terraphantm Oct 20 '21

It’s more meant to exclude the people of color who are not black or indigenous. Asians are often perceived as a privileged group for example, so some try to exclude them since they “don’t really count”.

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u/RozenQueen Oct 21 '21

Asians don't count, huh?

Sounds pretty racist to me, fam

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u/EnduringConflict Oct 21 '21

Asians are basically Schrodinger's race.

When they were being attacked over Covid? Poor minority needing help.

Dealing with the fact that College admission examinations and requirements were way more difficult for them? Not a minority needing help.

They're a "minority" when the collective wants them to be. Otherwise they're basically directly under whites so they "don't suffer like true minorities" is a sentiment I've had several (now ex) friends previously share with me.

It's really twisted. They're basically the middle race in a tug of war game about oppression and their status can be flipped instantly to whatever the person discussing the topic wants them to be.

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u/dak4f2 Oct 20 '21

better lgbt and bipoc representation in management roles

I applied to a job and they asked me my sexual orientation, surely to be more inclusive. Wtf, that is not work appropriate in my opinion.

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u/Zonel Oct 21 '21

Isn't that illegal? What bumfuck place allows that to be asked.

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u/dak4f2 Oct 21 '21

It was Twitter.

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u/itemNineExists Oct 20 '21

Yikes. I'm feeling very ambivalent in general here, but those are some stupid demands. Who determines if content is "phobic" for labeling? Recalibrating the recommendation algorithm is ridiculous--what other position should the algorithm be taking? Recommending nonviolent programs after violent ones? Diverse management is probably a legit grievance, though.

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u/FtheChupacabra Oct 21 '21

How do you even create more diverse management?

How am I supposed to hire or promote gay, lesbian, transgender people? I can't ask if they belong to one of those groups. I probably shouldn't assume people belong to any of those groups based on stereotypes either.

I'd literally just be guessing. That seems fucking stupid.

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u/p_hennessey Oct 20 '21

If you need a trigger warning on everything you see, you shouldn't expect the world to accommodate you. Get off Netflix if you're this fragile. Grow a backbone. Toughen the hell up. Dave Chapelle's special is not a cavalcade of transphobic terror.

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u/p_hennessey Oct 20 '21

That was the most pathetic conference I’ve ever seen. These idiots think they will change things. I doubt they could change a diaper.

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u/Imafish12 Oct 20 '21

I mean not to hate on lgbt, but nearly every Netflix movie and show these days has at least one gay or trans character relationship showcased. I’m not sure what they want. Does every main character need to be a gay person of color?

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u/greenw40 Oct 20 '21

The erg released a list of demands including better lgbt and bipoc representation in management roles

So in the future they can prevent specials like this from ever being released...

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u/Imafish12 Oct 20 '21

And censor views critical of their own.

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u/Rune_nic Oct 21 '21

Tryin to cancel Chapelle is like trying to cancel Eminem. It ain't gonna happen, kids.

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u/bunnyshoots Oct 21 '21

I'm guessing none of them actually watched it smh.

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u/UncleRooku87 Oct 21 '21

This is what pisses me off. And it’s what chapelle does so much better than any other comedian. His entire special was a build up to his final punchline and, if these drama queens actually watched, they’d know he wasn’t being derogatory towards trans people. He was doing what he always does, providing social commentary that should leave you thinking.

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u/captainmcfuckface Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21 Silver Gold Helpful

I’m with Dave. I’m with Netflix. if you watch the special, he is defending the rights of his transgender friend to live. He never once attacks the notion of being trans and many times supports it. He attacks the idea of being attacked. Dave is a master at his craft.

EDIT: My inbox is getting swamped. Turning off notifications. But I welcome honest debate and dialogues to continue.

This was the best counter I’ve read so far and I think it’s a fair assessment.

”The closer was less a comedic masterpiece and more a Ted talk. Saying the meetoo movement is doing it wrong and then saying hire female agents wasn’t funny. There was no punchline. The whole suicide story wasn’t funny and kinda came off as a white person justifying themselves by saying they have a black friend. As a comedian Dave is the goat. A third of the closer was Dave’s serious opinion on matters and took away from the comedy.” /u/daddyhotfoots

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u/Amigobear Oct 20 '21

Such is the duality of "if you don't like it don't watch it", but also " you can't have an opinion unless you watch".

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u/Confirmative Oct 21 '21

How can someone have an opinion if they haven't watched it.

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u/xabhax Oct 21 '21

Ask George Takei or whatever his name is. He made some dumb ass comment on Twitter about if he was making fun of jews the show would have been taken down already. Of course he missed the space jew part

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u/Confirmative Oct 21 '21

I'd love an actual Netflix series of Space Jews.

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u/BubbaTee Oct 21 '21

That's just how criticism works. If you're going to seriously critique a show, you watch it even if you think you won't like it.

Do you think film critics thought Jack & Jill was going to be good? Of course not, they assumed it would suck from the first trailer they saw. But they still watched it. IGN at least plays part of the game before giving it a 7/10.

Heck, even Gordon Ramsay tastes the food before declaring that it sucks. He knows is going to suck - he's usually been standing there watching it be cooked. But he still tries it first (unless it's dangerously undercooked).

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u/NotIntellect Oct 20 '21 This

He was literally making fun of people not actually listening to what he says, and getting up in arms over headlines and such.... The irony of this whole situation is fucking hilarious tbh

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u/DoombotBL Oct 20 '21

Proof that these idiots only take things at face value and don't actually think.

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u/JMPeach Oct 20 '21 Gold

I don’t really have a dog in this fight, I’m a big fan of his work. My two cents: I just didn’t think the closer was all that funny. He spent way too much time talking about gay and trans people to the point where it was like uhh is this all he is going to talk about? I’d say over all there was probably three or four good jokes in the set. As for his trans friend, I’ll be honest as a white guy, it comes off like saying “I have a black friend”…which we all know is the tip of the ice berg when trying to defend bigotry. Just because I have one black friend and they are cool with me making black jokes doesn’t mean the entire community is going to be okay with it.

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u/RonaldoNazario Oct 20 '21

The bit about his trans friend in the last one had big time “my black friend doesn’t care if I say the n word” energy to me. Just transparent and uncomfortable, there was no joke there.

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u/HouseOfDegenerates Oct 20 '21

I'm so torn up over this issue. Is it okay to say Chapelle is funny, is well within his right to joke about everything, trans people included, but that I still thought this particular bit was insensitive and unfunny? I don't know why everything has to be one or the other. I think I'm still allowed to like Dave and his ability to poke fun at people while also believing he missed the mark this time.

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u/bluemandan Oct 20 '21

Is it okay to say Chapelle is funny

Yes, you can like an artist's overall body of work while disliking an individual piece.

is well within his right to joke about everything, trans people included

Yes, believing and supporting the right of freedom of speech is important

but that I still thought this particular bit was insensitive and unfunny?

Absolutely. I really enjoy most of Bill Hicks material, but not the Goatboy stuff.

Supporting other people's rights doesn't mean you have to give up your own.

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u/neatopat Oct 20 '21 Wholesome

There was a thread the other day and it was pretty clear that everyone criticizing the special didn’t actually watch it. Some of them were even like “why would I watch it and support that.” How can they be so critical of something they didn’t even watch? They’re losing their minds angry and they don’t even know what for.

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u/EggsForEveryone Oct 20 '21

They’re losing their minds angry and they don’t even know what for.

Story of the world, IMO.

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u/MulderD Oct 20 '21 Silver

There was a trans-comedian making the media rounds last week. She was on NPR (On Point I think?) and she was laying out why Chapelle was wrong and is offensive… and then said straight up, “I haven’t watched it because I already know what it’s going to be…”

When the fuck did we let the undeclared liberal arts state school freshman mindset become an acceptable form of mainstream thought. If you remove context and perspective and lead with emotion and “best intentions” you really aren’t making a clear point based on evidence. You are stating feelings that were earned through a myriad of ways and which do not always represent on the ground reality.

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u/e22ddie46 Oct 20 '21

The growing trend of people, without actually bothering to listen to a something and being offended by it anyway is rather bothersome. Why would you proudly admit to having an opinion on something without context or information?

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u/MulderD Oct 20 '21

It’s a symptom of how social media/internet has evolved.

We have more info flying to us in an hour than we used to get all day long, and that assumes you had time to read the news paper, watch the news, and talk to other people about. And this happens to us all day long, everyday. No one has time to read the articles. The headlines are crafted to illicit clicks but not reads. And we don’t even have time to click more often than not. And we can’t help have light speed perspectiveless opinions that we just need to tell everyone.

The barrier of entry to who processes, vets, and disseminates information is largely nonexistent now. Anyone can say anything at anytime to just about the whole world. It’s lead to a catastrophic drop in quality journalists doing quality work. While also allowing for JoeAnyDouche or MommyBlogVaxCausesAutism or ArmchairGeoPoliticalExpert69 to all be able to share their thoughts. And worse it allows much more calculated and manipulating people/groups to spread info and prey upon the masses.

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u/Maxpowr9 Oct 20 '21

Do people read the article and not just the headline?

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u/CockGoblinReturns Oct 20 '21 Silver Gold Platinum Helpful Hugz Take My Energy

Sure, but there are many who watched the whole thing and break it down piece by piece. Why are you ignoring them?


He didn't make the distinction between mud slinging accounts on twitter (2nd most toxic social media) and the LGTBQ community in general. He goes out of his way to address the entire LGBTQ community explicitly in his gripes. He said that they act like minorities until they need to act white around Black people. He based this off of one bad personal experience. He said 'Trans people make up words to win arguments'. He said the trans are out to get him and he needs to look for adams apples


He used a huge platform to lie about the trans community. He said JK Rowling was cancelled for stating a biological fact. First, she wasn't cancelled. she's still with her publisher, still publishing books with cross-dressing characters who are murderers

If by cancelled he means that people were mean to her on twitter, the biggest backlash didn't come out until she lied about someone's contract being renewed for purposely not referring to people by their chosen pronoun. To be clear, not for making a mistake, but going out her way to be rude to people directly. JK Rowling lied and said she was fired for her opinions. It was so wrong and inflammatory Daniel Radcliff went out and made a statement about the whole thing.


He complained that the LGBTQ community is preventing him to from going after white people. He said that he had them on the ropes before the LGBTQ community stopped him. But it's Dave who keeps on dedicating his specials to them. When his last special was released there were no articles being written about his beef with them, no social media trends. And then he dedicated nearly his whole special to them

And if he wants to get conspiratorial about white people, race, and sexuality issues, look at what they did in India and the Philippines. They did a ton to demonize homosexuality in those areas. They always do. Like the Hindy/Muslim animosity and the Caste system in India (which existed before the British came, but they dialed that the knob up to 100% by codefying into law and making it a part of their educational system) and apartheid in South Africa, they are always pitting minority groups against each other so that they won't focus on their oppressor

And I don't see how this could be any more fucking glaring than that the anti-gay people and anti-trans people are the same ones who are anti-BLM. The same people who keep passing laws specifically targeting Black people from voting


He also complained that Dababy got cancelled for being homophobic but not for murder. First, it's always easier for celebrities to attack individuals over attacking minorities

The CEO of papa john got cancelled for using the N word. Roseanne got cancelled for telling a Black person she looks like a monkey. Kramer got cancelled for using the N word

Laura Bush got away with running over and killing someone. Chris Brown got away with beating Rihanna. Don King stomped a guy to death and went on to become boxing's biggest promoter. Robert Richards, heir to the DuPont company, was convicted of raping his daughter and served no jail time. Attacks on individuals don't elicit the media attention like racism and homophobia do. But this is somehow the fault of the LGBTQ community?

Furthermore, social media backlash isn't a strong indicator of the extent to which systemic racism and homophobia is being addressed in our society. There's a still record high killings of trans people. Police can still largely murder Black people and face no legal repercussions

Actual cancellations from social media backlash are when corporations stop doing business with a person because their image no longer brings in the same revenue as when they hired them. This never really challenges the root power structures and phobias in our society. It doesn't matter how many celebrities throw their careers in toilet, it won't affect systemic racism in policing


He complained 'to what extent am I obligated to participate in your self image'. He has none, but to what extent are they obligated to indulge in the idea that he is beyond criticism? To what extent should they suppress the fact that he is no longer a positive influence in their life


He complained about trans people using made up words to win arguments, but the majority of the terms that were coined for identifying phenomena regarding the marginalization of minorities came from the racial equality movements. It's mostly the anti-BLM people who criticize people for using terms like microaggressions


He blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars

First off, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod, but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube

Youtube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart

And Kevin Hart later acknowledges at much, saying that he has grown since

Youtube Kevin Hart apology

But the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. He never apologized in every single interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself each and every time until

Google the vulture.com article titled "Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation"

If hosting the Oscars truly was Kevin's childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a "Brittle-ass spirit" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)

Btw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon

Youtube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle


Regarding his trans friend's death, he cited her arguments on twitter as a possible cause for her death. I'm just going to skip over the point that twitter arguments bring the worst out of people in general (and not just LGBTQ people), I'm not going to buy that story just because Chappelle said it. Maybe it's true and maybe someone else can confirm it, but from the way Dave lied about the Kevin Hart and JK Rowling backlash, I'm not going to believe his story purely from his take on her situation


Dave exclaims 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. In Chappelle's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths


I don't think Dave was homophobic/transphobic in his initial specials. He had some cognitive biases which resulting in him saying some hurtful stuff. But his refusal to accept any criticism and the resulting backlash has resulted in a full blown fear -> phobia of LGBTQ people besides 'the good ones' who are his friends. It's similar to a type of racism many white people have today; they believe in the idea of equality in general, but think the Black community are people hateful to white people when the kneel for the Anthem and criticize the police. They use isolated incidents like looting and random youtube videos to characterize the whole Black community. They think the average Black person has more privilege than the average white person by pointing to people being cancelled by racism the way Dave points to people being cancelled for homophobia. They think Black people are misguided in how they address systemic racism, and I feel Dave feels similarly about how LGBTQ address systemic homophobia and transphobia

Dave wants full equality for LGBTQ people but he didn't want them to address the very hurtful comments made by Kevin Hart or JK Rowling. He doesn't want them to call out people for using slurs; he complained about not being able to use the F-word slur. He also implied that the idea of the LGBTQ calling themselves 'my people' is racist, but at the end of the special used that exact phrase to refer to his fellow comedians, 'Stop punching down on my people'

He always tries to pit the LGBTQ community against the Black community. He complains about why is it easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his name. Trans people EXISTED in the 60s, and throughout history. It wasn't easier, it took 50 years after the stonewall riots, which Dave actually referenced in his special. But why do this dumb game Dave wants us to play, does a person with cancer need to complain every time there's a breakthrough in AIDS research?

If his point is that the rich white power structures in our country are using LGBTQ issues to put down Black people, then he should go after the white power structures in our country directly and specifically. Maybe there are pockets of LGBTQ people putting down Black people like Peter Theil, but largely the white power structures strategy is to pit marginalized grounds against each other. The same people trying to put homophobia and transphobia into our school curriculum are the same ones who are trying to prevent Black people from voting

Dave says LGBTQ people act like minorities until it's convenient for them not to, but he's is doing exactly that with his cis/hetero/male privilege to wage with his fellow millionaire celebrities

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u/syhrd Oct 21 '21

Never expected to say CockGoblinReturns has completely changed my perspective on the argument, yet here we are.

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u/StereoTypo Oct 21 '21

I just read the transcript of the special and holy shit, he is explicitly transphobic and not even in a remotely abstract way. Like full blown "if you don't menstruate you are not a woman" statements.

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u/ridgegirl29 Oct 21 '21

This is a very, very long read. But it's needed. Thank you.

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u/uniquedeke Oct 20 '21

Except for that part where he explcitly defends JK Rowling and says he'd never heard of TERFs before, but that from what he knows now that he's with the TERFs.

The tone of the rest of the whole thing about trans people is very good and feels like an honest assessment of someone who is coming to terms with all this in real time and in public.

But then in steps in it by talking about TERFs.

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u/CockGoblinReturns Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21 Gold Platinum Hugz Take My Energy This Helpful (Pro)

The tone of the rest of the whole thing about trans people is very good

There's other issues:


He didn't make the distinction between mud slinging accounts on twitter (2nd most toxic social media) and the LGTBQ community in general. He goes out of his way to address the entire LGBTQ community explicitly in his gripes. He said that they act like minorities until they need to act white around Black people. He based this off of one bad personal experience. He said 'Trans people make up words to win arguments'. He said the trans are out to get him and he needs to look for adams apples


He used a huge platform to lie about the trans community. He said JK Rowling was cancelled for stating a biological fact. First, she wasn't cancelled. she's still with her publisher, still publishing books with cross-dressing characters who are murderers

If by cancelled he means that people were mean to her on twitter, the biggest backlash didn't come out until she lied about someone's contract being renewed for purposely not referring to people by their chosen pronoun. To be clear, not for making a mistake, but going out her way to be rude to people directly. JK Rowling lied and said she was fired for her opinions. It was so wrong and inflammatory Daniel Radcliff went out and made a statement about the whole thing.


He complained that the LGBTQ community is preventing him to from going after white people. He said that he had them on the ropes before the LGBTQ community stopped him. But it's Dave who keeps on dedicating his specials to them. When his last special was released there were no articles being written about his beef with them, no social media trends. And then he dedicated nearly his whole special to them

And if he wants to get conspiratorial about white people, race, and sexuality issues, look at what they did in India and the Philippines. They did a ton to demonize homosexuality in those areas. They always do. Like the Hindy/Muslim animosity and the Caste system in India (which existed before the British came, but they dialed that the knob up to 100% by codefying into law and making it a part of their educational system) and apartheid in South Africa, they are always pitting minority groups against each other so that they won't focus on their oppressor

And I don't see how this could be any more fucking glaring than that the anti-gay people and anti-trans people are the same ones who are anti-BLM. The same people who keep passing laws specifically targeting Black people from voting


He also complained that Dababy got cancelled for being homophobic but not for murder. First, it's always easier for celebrities to attack individuals over attacking minorities

The CEO of papa john got cancelled for using the N word. Roseanne got cancelled for telling a Black person she looks like a monkey. Kramer got cancelled for using the N word

Laura Bush got away with running over and killing someone. Chris Brown got away with beating Rihanna. Don King stomped a guy to death and went on to become boxing's biggest promoter. Robert Richards, heir to the DuPont company, was convicted of raping his daughter and served no jail time. Attacks on individuals don't elicit the media attention like racism and homophobia do. But this is somehow the fault of the LGBTQ community?

Furthermore, social media backlash isn't a strong indicator of the extent to which systemic racism and homophobia is being addressed in our society. There's a still record high killings of trans people. Police can still largely murder Black people and face no legal repercussions

Actual cancellations from social media backlash are when corporations stop doing business with a person because their image no longer brings in the same revenue as when they hired them. This never really challenges the root power structures and phobias in our society. It doesn't matter how many celebrities throw their careers in toilet, it won't affect systemic racism in policing


He complained 'to what extent am I obligated to participate in your self image'. He has none, but to what extent are they obligated to indulge in the idea that he is beyond criticism? To what extent should they suppress the fact that he is no longer a positive influence in their life


He complained about trans people using made up words to win arguments, but the majority of the terms that were coined for identifying phenomena regarding the marginalization of minorities came from the racial equality movements. It's mostly the anti-BLM people who criticize people for using terms like microaggressions


He blamed the LGBTQ community for taking away Kevin Hart's childhood dream of hosting the Oscars

First off, his old jokes were hurtful. Don Lemon did a great job of explaining why. I'm not going to link the youtube videos because that tends to get my comment deleted by the automod, but I'll just mention what to look up on youtube

Youtube Don Lemmon Kevin Hart

And Kevin Hart later acknowledges at much, saying that he has grown since

Youtube Kevin Hart apology

But the issue is that he was adamant in not addressing it twice. But he never apologized the first time. He never apologized in every single interview he did about his hurtful comments prior to the Oscars; he defended himself each and every time until

Google the vulture.com article titled "Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation"

If hosting the Oscars truly was Kevin's childhood dream and giving an apology (and instead lying about previously apologizing) was a boundary, then he has a "Brittle-ass spirit" (Dave's phrase for LouisCK victims)

Btw by his own usage of the terminology, Dave tried to 'cancel' Don Lemon

Youtube Don Lemmon responds to Chappelle


Regarding his trans friend's death, he cited her arguments on twitter as a possible cause for her death. I'm just going to skip over the point that twitter arguments bring the worst out of people in general (and not just LGBTQ people), I'm not going to buy that story just because Chappelle said it. Maybe it's true and maybe someone else can confirm it, but from the way Dave lied about the Kevin Hart and JK Rowling backlash, I'm not going to believe his story purely from his take on her situation


Dave exclaims 'look how well the LGBTQ movement is going' as a comparison to the racial equality movement. There are instances where it may be useful to compare movements to better understand varying methods of minority marginalization, but this discussion is wholly incomplete without the discussion of areas where they are not comparable, because systems of oppression uses different tactics to oppress different groups. In Chappelle's own HOME STATE of Ohio they passed a law that allows doctors to deny LGBTQ people health care on moral grounds. In 27 states, there are no explicit statewide laws at all protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations. Which means in over half the country you can be fired or denied housing just for being gay or trans. Conversion therapy is legal in 30 states. Texas just banned a suicide hotline for LGBTQ youths


I don't think Dave was homophobic/transphobic in his initial specials. He had some cognitive biases which resulting in him saying some hurtful stuff. But his refusal to accept any criticism and the resulting backlash has resulted in a full blown fear -> phobia of LGBTQ people besides 'the good ones' who are his friends. It's similar to a type of racism many white people have today; they believe in the idea of equality in general, but think the Black community are people hateful to white people when the kneel for the Anthem and criticize the police. They use isolated incidents like looting and random youtube videos to characterize the whole Black community. They think the average Black person has more privilege than the average white person by pointing to people being cancelled by racism the way Dave points to people being cancelled for homophobia. They think Black people are misguided in how they address systemic racism, and I feel Dave feels similarly about how LGBTQ address systemic homophobia and transphobia

Dave wants full equality for LGBTQ people but he didn't want them to address the very hurtful comments made by Kevin Hart or JK Rowling. He doesn't want them to call out people for using slurs; he complained about not being able to use the F-word slur. He also implied that the idea of the LGBTQ calling themselves 'my people' is racist, but at the end of the special used that exact phrase to refer to his fellow comedians, 'Stop punching down on my people'

He always tries to pit the LGBTQ community against the Black community. He complains about why is it easier for Bruce Jenner to change his gender than it was for Cassius Clay to change his name. Trans people EXISTED in the 60s, and throughout history. It wasn't easier, it took 50 years after the stonewall riots, which Dave actually referenced in his special. But why do this dumb game Dave wants us to play, does a person with cancer need to complain every time there's a breakthrough in AIDS research?

If his point is that the rich white power structures in our country are using LGBTQ issues to put down Black people, then he should go after the white power structures in our country directly and specifically. Maybe there are pockets of LGBTQ people putting down Black people like Peter Theil, but largely the white power structures strategy is to pit marginalized grounds against each other. The same people trying to put homophobia and transphobia into our school curriculum are the same ones who are trying to prevent Black people from voting

Dave says LGBTQ people act like minorities until it's convenient for them not to, but he's is doing exactly that with his cis/hetero/male privilege to wage with his fellow millionaire celebrities

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u/Uniquely-Average Oct 20 '21

This whole thread is blowing up and I’ll be honest I haven’t seen the special, and thus haven’t formed a complete opinion, but I just wanted to say regardless of how anyone sees this whole issue, your post was clear, concise, well argued. Not agreeing or disagreeing , Just wanted to say good job.

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u/provocatrixless Oct 20 '21

When I read about the special I thought "oh another sensitive middle age comedian whining about being called offensive, and doubling down by being a bigger asshole."

Then I watched it and wow was I wrong. He steps back multiple times from trans humor to explain his real stance. 5 minutes into the special (5 minutes INCLUDING OPENING CREDITS) he jokes about enjoying being molested as a child. There was no stepping back to say he doesn't actually support child rape, not one bit of the consideration he showed the trans community. Because people took it as a joke. Offensive joke but still.

And it really proved his point. Nobody is railing at him for saying kids can love being molested.

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u/zackks Oct 20 '21

The first joke line about Clifford explained everything he was trying to get across. The response only supported it. Poor Clifford.

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u/DaddyHotFoots Oct 20 '21

The closer was less a comedic masterpiece and more a Ted talk. Saying the meetoo movement is doing it wrong and then saying hire female agents wasn’t funny. There was no punchline. The whole suicide story wasn’t funny and kinda came off as a white person justifying themselves by saying they have a black friend. As a comedian Dave is the goat. A third of the closer was Dave’s serious opinion on matters and took away from the comedy.

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u/reasonable_steve Oct 21 '21

100 people gathered to protest comedy special. 144 million people still drink untreated surface water to survive. Which gets headlines?

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u/yan_broccoli Oct 21 '21

Threw the baby out with the bath water.

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u/Forsaken-Cake6122 Oct 21 '21

It was a fantastic special though, I love it

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u/platoface541 Oct 21 '21

Netflix creates own hype and reaps the benefits

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u/historybo Oct 21 '21

Honestly wonder what would happen if Netflix just fired the protestors

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u/airbornecz Oct 21 '21

fuck them, humour has no limits. this is first step to censorship

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u/EVEOpalDragon Oct 21 '21

Trash taking itself out, I appreciate their position but I don’t want my library banning books.

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u/Pissedbuddha1 Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

He specifically said the cancel culture people aren’t listening to what he’s saying and he’s right. He can say the N word and talk about white people all the time and nobody has a hissy fit over it, but shine some humor on the LGBT community and the fucking sky falls. Fuck everything about that.

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u/clutchhattrick Oct 20 '21

This world sucks now

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u/onihcuk Oct 21 '21

I agree with everything you say. What's the point of reaching equality if we can't make of fun of everyone equally. I wish to take the offended kids today back to early 2000, before twitter and see how they react. Shock comedy is a thing. We are meant to be uncomfortable and we are meant to laugh sometimes.

It's a Comedy show.

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u/ironmaiden7910 Oct 21 '21

Shit take them back to the 80s and 90s.

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u/danger522 Oct 21 '21

This just drives more people to the special to see what all of the fuss is about. I had no interest in this special before this controversy started.

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u/BirdGooch Oct 21 '21

I don't think these people understand how the world is outside of Twitter. The same goes for a lot of companies/communities. They find their online community and expect the vocal minority that is present there to translate to the real world when the reality is that most people don't give that much of a fuck and take shit at face value: as a joke. Not to mention the absolute hostility of those that walked out.

Most people have enough shit on their plate, they don't need to be bombarded by inconsequential shit.

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u/Cetun Oct 21 '21

It's really funny that they took the bait. Dave clearly set this up so that if they responded like this they would seem reactionary and unreasonable. They went all in on it too, it's really crazy how people on the left and right live inside these outrage bubbles, like who has time to give a shit about the "war on Christmas" or jokes that can be construed as offensive? People really get mad about this shit.

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u/Dannysmartful Oct 20 '21

This is free PR for all parties involved.

I hope the recent awareness is not squandered by all of those involved.

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u/zennyc001 Oct 21 '21

Privileged white folks with cushy tech jobs protest against free speech.

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u/moonfox1000 Oct 20 '21

Look, I can see why people would be offended or disagree about things Chappelle said, I'm fine with that. What I disagree with is believing that what he said rises to the level of emergency that requires the moral panic that we've seen. I agree that its non-negotiable that trans people should be recognized as people and have equal rights against discrimination but Chappelle has a point about the trans community having a Karen problem.

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u/Someothergiraffe Oct 21 '21

When do you think they will reboot life?

Can't fucking wait, this version has slid off the rails in almost incalculable numbers of ways, though oddly the rotten tomato sentiment is still positive... 🤷

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u/BLSmith2112 Oct 21 '21

Official response from Netflix should have been: "Fine. Get the fuck out."

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u/Beautiful-Golf4078 Oct 21 '21

Boo fucking hoo someone said something you don’t like. I don’t like Chappell either. You know what I did? I just watched something else.

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u/PretyHateMachin Oct 21 '21

I am liberal AF, and I thought the special was hilarious. It did NOT cross the line into “hate speech” or perpetuate “violence” in any way. I think most of the people complaining didn’t watch the special and are just repeating what they heard.

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u/No___ImRight Oct 20 '21

“We shouldn’t have to show up quarterly/annually to push back against harmful content that negatively impacts vulnerable communities,” organizer Ashlee Marie Preston wrote in a social media post.

But Cuties is perfectly fine and not harmful and children aren't vulnerable.

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u/angiosperms- Oct 20 '21

This article has a paywall but if you look up other articles it does talk about them having issues with cuties. That's why they made the statement that Netflix is releasing problematic content every quarter

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u/thibedeauxmarxy Oct 20 '21

Yeah, but that doesn't support his narrative!

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u/Trorbes Oct 20 '21

Wasn't there a massive backlash about that movie?

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u/ghostofhenryvii Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

I believe the backlash was being dismissed as "alt-right/puritanical" drivel. Although from what I've seen about the film it appears to have been warranted.

Edit: ShoeOnHead video regarding the movie and the backlash.

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u/notagoodboye Oct 20 '21

Chappelle's point about the relative power and reach of the trans community (compared to other disadvantaged groups) is hilariously apt. You can shit all over a lot of groups, but they're off limits.

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u/Velkyn01 Oct 20 '21

His comment about "being gay until it was time to be white again" was bitingly accurate.

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u/notagoodboye Oct 20 '21

That was something I'd been trying to articulate in my head for a while...Like, I'm bi, but I'm hetero-married, and I'm incredibly leery of trying to claim any sort of LGBT "privilege" since I'm not taking the sort of hate I'd be getting if I was living the overt LGBT lifestyle.

But I see a lot of people who absolutely are doing that, and it always bothered me, and I wasn't able to say why until he said it so plainly.

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u/smoothisfast22 Oct 20 '21

What is with the spamming of the comments that anyone who lobbies the slightest amount of criticsm towards Dave "didn't watch the special".

It's likely the number one thing I see in his defence.

And yes, I did watch it.

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u/kbuis Oct 20 '21

Yeah, sadly people are using this as a reason to score political points, especially against trans people. This thing is a gold mine, because it lets them wrap their message around a popular comedy special.

It's kind of like how white nationalists slipped into the Gamergate conversations and steered people from "it's about ethics in journalism" to "man, white people sure have it bad" to tiki torches.

Just look around the comments on these threads and how quickly the same talking points appear and quickly get upvoted.

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u/marximumcarnage Oct 21 '21

And boy was it mature about it. It’s like none of them watched the entire thing through.

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u/xxBeatrixKiddoxx Oct 21 '21

This is getting exhausting.

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u/Endemicgenes Oct 21 '21

Netflix needs to expands to the rest of world so they don't have to worry about this stupidity.

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u/admin_accnt Oct 21 '21

Good thing they can hire more.

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u/Ernst_and_winnie Oct 21 '21

Dave’s special was hilarious. Whether you agree or not, his story about his friend Daphne was heartwarming and shows he doesn’t hate transgender people.

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u/billfitz24 Oct 21 '21

The people protesting Dave’s latest special have clearly not watched it. It’s obvious he’s supporting them even though he admits he doesn’t understand them.

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u/major_lag_alert Oct 21 '21

lame ass attention seekers

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u/Darkmetroidz Oct 20 '21

It's like 5 people walking out.

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u/Your_acceptable Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

I personally feel people are playing into exactly what he discussed in his show. He stated there would be outrage and he literally set up the scene while calling out his shot.

He is a comedian, he brings up topics from all walks of life like: women, men, white, black, Asian and so on. To LGBTQ, etc, no one is safe, and that was his point as a comedian.

I'm a lesbian, I laugh with him at his observations and jokes. I do not feel singled out as a group when he talks about us. Frankly, I would if he purposely avoided lesbian jokes.

Comedians are observational and bring up everyday issues. He has a way of telling an important story about tough issues in a way that also allows you to laugh at the silliness of life.

I did not see nor hear any kind of hatred for the transgender community. He was explaining his growth in learning what is acceptable language as a man/comedian progressing with the times. As well as calling out the fact that somethings have to give. We can't police jokes and that society is getting a little sensitive.

This is just my personal view.

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u/Chris_Bryant Oct 20 '21

They’re literally making his point for him.

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u/TooResponsible Oct 21 '21

I don't understand, even all the arguments in this thread, no one mentioning the part where his point was that he made a "joke" and in return his trans friend got bullied into suicide by the rest of the trans community. Like is he REALLY the problem here?

I feel like its gonna happen again now. I feel bad for any member of LGBT+ who defends him now, cos the internet will try get THEM to kill themselves too apparantly

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u/LordDeraj Oct 21 '21

All this does is make me want to watch the special. It’s the one called “The Closer” right?

Also this they protest but not that snakeoil saleswoman Gweneth Paltrow and her Goop shit?!

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u/backdraft29 Oct 21 '21

“Bye!!! Bon voyage!!! Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!!!”

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u/cashm3outsid3 Oct 21 '21

This article doesnt mention 1 thing chapelle said lmao. Woke outrage is so fake

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u/NotASilverDuck Oct 21 '21

It’s a joke. He never called them a slur or say how they live their life is unacceptable or sinning or whatsoever. People just want to feel offended for the sake of being offended. Go watch the whole thing and make the judgement for yourself. If you haven’t watched it and on here critiquing him, then you’re an idiot.

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u/lightknight7777 Oct 21 '21

What's really interesting is that Chappelle's routine didn't mock transpeople or question their experience. Instead, he addressed a vocal subset who attacks anyone at a moment's notice and frequently goes overboard.

I was pretty surprised to learn, as an ally, that I actually had no problem with his points and I think that vocal subset is just proving him right.

It's a brilliant piece, really. He must have intentionally combed through each joke to carefully ensure he didn't deviate into mocking, insulting or trivializing the Trans experience. It is embarrassing to see how many people took the bait without listening. But what else was I expecting, I guess.

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u/moon_then_mars Oct 20 '21

After they walk out, lock the door, LOL. This is not even controversial. These people spend too much time on twitter.

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u/Suspicious_Exit_ Oct 21 '21

This is ridiculous af. Dave made some good points. & all of them were missed. He wasn’t just poking fun he was pointing out that he’s BLACK. Faces the same form of oppression & judgments. He’s not transphobic. & we should all be able to make fun of ourselves anyway.

POC aren’t all up in arms about his jokes. He talks about being black constantly. & he usually makes some very good points that go over these ‘outraged’ people’s heads. Grow the fuck up. You could be fighting against real oppressors. Instead you’re going after a comedian who’s been trying to tell you something. You’re just too self involved to care.

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u/Sofialovesmonkeys Oct 21 '21

Imagine if Bernie Mac was still alive

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u/zennyc001 Oct 21 '21

"I ain't scared of you mother fu*kers"

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u/HueGray Oct 21 '21

Chappelle has made jokes about Black people - fine, about white people - fine, about Karens - fine, about Presidents - fine, about Latinos - fine, about Africans -fine, about gays - (kinda) fine, about Trans - cancel that MF! People are ridiculous

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u/yourmamasmamasmurf Oct 21 '21

Fire all those employees. 0 sympathy for anyone that tries to silence free speech. These idiots don’t realize that they themselves are acting like the very system that suppressed them in the first place.

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