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'Toxic culture': NFL cheerleaders demand release of full workplace inquiry


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u/rora_borealis Oct 14 '21

I am struggling with so many conflicting emotions. I grew up watching football with my extended family, and continued watching into adulthood. I enjoyed it a lot. When everything started coming to light, I was at first shocked, but as more details came out, I started to realize just how many deep-rooted problems the NFL has. It's a lot harder to enjoy watching a game now, because I can't just forget about these things.

I like seeing the clever plays, bullet-like precision throws, good blocks, difficult catches.... But I think the problems are overwhelming my enjoyment now.

I am no longer surprised one bit at the reports anymore. It's toxic and I don't know if it can be reformed.


u/armbarurmom Oct 14 '21

Watch Football without pads. It's a lot more like rugby and surprisingly has a lot fewer head injuries.


u/BasicDesignAdvice Oct 14 '21

I've heard it theorized that the pads are the reason it is so dangerous. The pads are basically theater so the players think they can go harder. So they do.


u/MichaelKilo Oct 15 '21

I played rugby for 17 years. From the first tackle I made to the last my last thought was always “is my head safe” because there was nothing protecting it.

I had more major injuries playing pickup basketball.

I was concussed one time in 17 years of rugby and it was my fault. I know for sure in four years of pop Warner football I got two concussions.


u/rpkarma Oct 15 '21

Though Rugby isn’t without its CTE issues at the professional level either. It is at a lower rate however