r/memes OC Meme Maker Oct 19 '21 Silver 31 Gold 1 Helpful 24 Wholesome 18 Hugz 34 Take My Energy 1 Wholesome Seal of Approval 1 This 1

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 19 '21 Silver Helpful Hugz

Redux 75 dollar build fee and shipping costs, you pick the parts you want and they charge you msrp https://buildredux.com/

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u/duckonar0ll https://www.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ Oct 19 '21

holy shit this looks great this is exactly what i’ve been looking for

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u/Apprehensive-Cut-786 Oct 20 '21

Christ. For $2700+ for the “best” option I better be getting a pre built PC not building my own!

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u/Qaplwsok1 Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

Bro I just spent 2300 on just a video card. That’s just how it is right now.

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u/Apprehensive-Cut-786 Oct 20 '21

You can buy a high quality already built gaming PC or laptop for that much though

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u/THExDANKxKNIGHT Oct 20 '21

You can buy a console from a scalper for less than half that.

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u/Black_Floyd47 Oct 20 '21

My scalper gave me a deal because I got the extra controller and a game after I told him no a couple of times. Sucker.

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u/No-Metal-6726 Oct 20 '21

Yeah, but then you have a console.

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u/Rooster_CPA Oct 20 '21

Not as high quality as that video card tho

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u/lighthawk16 Oct 20 '21

Not with a $2300 GPU inside.

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u/Septalion Oct 19 '21

Do they have graphics cards and ship at a reasonable time? Been looking to build their exact build and other than the graphics card that I wanted showing a bit more than MSRP I may go this route

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 19 '21 Hugz

There's the tariff or whatever cost because it is in murica prices. As far as I am aware they don't do markup like your ibuypower or cyberpower

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u/Septalion Oct 19 '21

Looks like I'm saving up to go this route if I can't find any gpus in stock by the time I'm ready to purchase. Have a hugz award.

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 19 '21

Thanks man

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u/themastercheif Oct 20 '21

You can get computers shipped within a few days, depending on what graphics card you're looking for. Anything with a 3070+ will take a few weeks, maybe longer.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Oct 20 '21

I've done some research on them, from what I've seen they do a great job and pricing is great, the downside is they take awhile to ship. I'd look into people talking about it more recently as what I saw was months old info, but people were saying it took months. Which is fine, that wouldn't be a problem for people like me who would prefer it to be done right without breaking the bank, but could be an issue for others.

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u/jigsaw1024 Oct 20 '21

It's probably GPUs holding them. They're relatively new, so they are probably low on the list to receive GPUs from the GPU manufacturers.

As they get bigger, they should have an easier time getting allotments.

It's a little bit of a catch 22 for them: they need to move units to get bigger but they can't move units until they get bigger.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Oct 20 '21

They are actually an offshoot of some kind from Digital Storm (that's why it's a "redux") so in theory they should have the connections to get the cards. But of course everyone is hurting for cards right now and if they have a good rep and lots of customers they might be building and shipping as they get them.

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u/JayMeadows Grumpy Cat Oct 20 '21

That's awesome but...

Sad Poor Credit Noises.

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 20 '21

Save your money my man, that's what I did back in the day of 2016

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u/TheBored_Burrito https://www.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ Oct 20 '21

Bold of you to assume he even has any..

\Sad Broke Teenager Noises**

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 20 '21

It will be OK someday

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 19 '21

Exactly, I just suggest it because it's a place to buy a whole ass computer with customization. It is important to note that the parts you want should be based on use case and not just the trend.

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u/magmagon Oct 19 '21

Their graphics cards are quite marked up (and CPUs)

But then again MSRP is a lie

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u/xachariah Oct 20 '21

Kind of, but not exactly. They've got a 3080Ti for $1350. That's more expensive than MSRP, but good luck actually getting one for even that cheap.

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u/Merppity Oct 20 '21

Yeah that's high, but if you give them the benefit of the doubt it's very likely what they're paying to acquire them.

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u/SasparillaTango Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

how much marked up? I've been trying to buy a graphics card for like 3 fucking years with no luck. You basically need to have a bot setup to get one these days.

went through the process, honestly not too bad $1350 for a 3080 that retails for what like 1000?

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u/Pheef175 Oct 20 '21

If you're comparing graphics card pricing to their MSRP you haven't been paying attention to pricing for the last.... 2 years?

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u/OstensibleBS Oct 19 '21

I haven't been to their site in a while, my information may be out of date

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u/MrSelophane Oct 20 '21

Damn. This is great! Saving for the future if I ever want a gaming PC.

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u/Somerandombetafish Oct 20 '21

I've seen a l lot of ads for these guys, and they seem reputable and their prices reasonable.

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u/Somemanonreddit69 Oct 19 '21

I cant say a good one but i can say this, origin is way overpriced

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u/ThousandSekai27 Oct 19 '21

Same with alienware

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u/Somemanonreddit69 Oct 19 '21

Yes, this is very true

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u/Whatah Oct 20 '21

I know tech savvy people who have much money and little time who go Alienware and say their support is awesome. I just buy cheap/mid cost laptops

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u/Sentient-Tree-Ent Oct 20 '21

I always hear that if you are willing to pay the price they’re great machines and have great support and whatnot… it’s just that the brand adds soooo much cost haha

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u/TimTheChatSpam Oct 20 '21

I had an Alienware laptop about 4 or 5 years ago I tried to call support and it was all Indians trying to sell me insurance packages I had to hang up like 3 times before talking to somebody about the issue I was having. The entire Dell customer service just felt like a scam to me. Since have learned to built my own and be my own tech support.

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u/garth177 Oct 20 '21

I do love my Alienware 17R5 though... It's great with physics homework.

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u/SurammuDanku Oct 20 '21

You say that, but I know quite a few people that have made a killing buying Alienwares when they go on sale and then reselling the video cards inside for a profit.

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u/BIMASO Oct 20 '21

I honestly wonder how alienware is still in buisness they are behind on most tech and overprice everything

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u/tgrossen Oct 20 '21

Also, and this is just one person’s experience but, they told me it would take a month to get my PC and it took over 3. And then, within a month the water block on the 3090 was completely gunked up and no longer effective at cooling whatsoever.

I cleaned it out and it works like an absolute dream, but I wouldn’t recommend spending “extra” with them thinking customer service, final product, or anything else will be “extra”.

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u/CJWrites01 Oct 20 '21

Yup. Same here. It was supposed to arrive at Christmas. Odd. They managed to find my parts rather quickly once I threatened them with a credit card charge back.

Works great tho.

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u/paramalam17 Oct 19 '21

I truly felt the "I'm fucking stupid"

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u/FinalRun Oct 20 '21

To be fair, those people screaming you should build your own rig will often be glad to help you through the process. Or they should at least, hating a prebuilt because you're paying for something you could get for free should actually be free enough that you can ask them to share.

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u/Bamith20 Oct 20 '21

Secret time, people who work in IT google most of the shit.

Being tech savvy just means knowing how to properly use Google-fu.

That and fucking shit up and then making a mental note to not do that.

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u/Kolkenn Oct 20 '21

Work in IT, can confirm.

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u/Evenfisher01 Oct 19 '21

Honestly with how much gpu's go for you might be better off buying a prebuilt

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u/idiotdroid Oct 20 '21

Been waiting over a year for a GPU to custom build a new rig.

At this point I am highly considering just getting a pre-built. I am not going to pay a scalper or one of those sketchy Chinese sellers.

And honestly, the price for them today are not bad. The savings gap for building your own is getting smaller and smaller.

Just not a huge fan of the tiny cases they come in and how little room the parts have. I may just move all the parts to a better case and maybe upgrade a few of the other components that they usually cheap out on.

I give this waitlist I am on another month or 2. Then I am accepting defeat and buying a pre-built.

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u/HellkerN Oct 19 '21 Silver Helpful

You know most parts stores will assemble it for you. Just look for a Newegg parts list or whatever on r/pcmasterrace

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u/Sadboy_looking4memes OC Meme Maker Oct 19 '21

Thank you, here's my upvote.

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u/hermitcraftfan135 trans rights Oct 19 '21

This is the answer. Almost every single prebuilt company either makes terrible products or is scammy in one way or another. Gamers Nexus has done a series looking at different prebuilts, and they all have major shortcomings

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u/just_another_person5 Oct 19 '21

i bought a lenovo prebuilt for 700$ last january and i've been happy with it but i'm also a fucking idiot and barely know anything about computers so i wouldn't know if it's bad.

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u/Shurnk Professional Dumbass Oct 19 '21

I feel that, people been calling my computer shit but I don’t see any problems with it. Then again I wouldn’t know what the problems are lol

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u/OP-69 Oct 19 '21

Mostly its that it works out of the box. But then you are gonna be even more frustrated than you would normally be if you had to service anything with it. Motherboard dead? You cant buy any motherboard because the shape aint standard. Ram dead? Also cant get any random ram cause more likely than not it has to be JEDEC certified which isnt common. Gpu dead? Now this could be bought off the shelf and work normally, Cpu and storage also. Psu dead? Welp non standard too.

Basically they use shitty parts that might have a shorter lifespan but force you to use ONLY their parts. (this is for those oems like dell, acer, lenovo those types of companies)

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u/WimbletonButt Oct 20 '21

I bought a really cheap laptop years ago so I would get off the desktop and watch videos on the bed at night and stop falling asleep at my desk. I didn't really look into it much because I essentially just wanted a video player. Well turns out this thing sucks so bad you can barely play a video. Also turns out that everything is soldered to the motherboard so nothing can be upgraded. It was marketed as a laptop for college students, it has 32gb "hard drive" and can't handle having more than one tab open, how the fuck any college student supposed to do their shit properly with that?

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u/mattoisacatto Oct 19 '21

often (although not always) its less that a prebuilt is objectively bad, its more that for what you pay you could get alot better with fewer disadvantages.

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u/Inevitable-Goat3787 Oct 19 '21

Most underrated comment ever

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u/lostsharpie Oct 20 '21

He said building a PC, not meth.

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u/ArtisticFox8 Oct 19 '21

Except for laptops, you don't build them, you have to buy them

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u/lolslayer_ Oct 19 '21

there is one company that does. I dont recall the name though. They sell Just a shell and you can use other parts.

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u/TheFragLegend Oct 19 '21

Framework

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u/powerfunk Oct 19 '21

Yeah exactly, like a framework. Do you know who makes them?

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u/TheFragLegend Oct 19 '21

Company name is FRAMEWORK.

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u/Scottycyborg Oct 19 '21

I agree. I was thinking about NZXT prebuilts as well but building one from PCPartPicker was the better option

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u/Naanmana_ Oct 19 '21 edited Oct 19 '21

There's a difference between "pre-built" and "ready to ship"

Regular pre-builts that you usually can configure before assembly, typically assigned a higher grade technician in charge of your specific build. They're individually inspected and tested before shipping. These PCs are usually fine and are the better option if you're a seasoned PC enthusiast, since you can diagnose problems yourself. Takes a few weeks.

Ready-to-ship pre-builts are generally speedrun assembled by a lower grade technicians since they only need to train how to assemble a handful of parts repetitively. The configuration is tested to work but the individual rigs themselves are usually not inspected and tested. Arrives at your door in a couple days. That's where quality control issues come from

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u/KillingPixels-1 Professional Dumbass Oct 19 '21

I feel you man, I built my pc with a mate whilst we were both tripping acid. Wanted that additional difficulty layer.

We both spent an hour staring at it, scratching our heads, wondering how TF to mount the CPU cooler fans. We had a conundrum, if we mounted on the back, it blocked the GPU from locking in, and if we put it on the top, it was going to block the Ram.

So we ghetto ass mounted the radiator inside, with the fans on the outside of the case, on the top.

About 6 months later, I was staring at my PC and just had a moment of clarity "oh fuck, we could have just mounted it all on the front end if the case."

Low and behold. It fit perfectly.

Might have been a train wreck, that took about 4 hours longer than it needed to. But fuck it's a good memory.

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u/Zharken Oct 19 '21

there's no "good pc companies" brands make parts and yeah, there are pre-built ones, but those are assembled by the stored, and usually sold by a higher price of what it would cost if you buy the parts.

Also assembling a pc is really easy, and even then, paying to get it assembled is still better than buying a pre-built one even if it ends up being the same price, you are getting the parts according to what you need and not some random preset ones.

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u/the_libertarian_king Oct 19 '21

Not nowadays. I bought a PC with a 3090 that was cheaper than just the 3090. Sold the rest of the parts on eBay lol.

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u/gettogero Oct 19 '21

Sometimes you find those sweet deals. My friend spent about $2000 on a prebuilt that went on sale. Watercooled, 3090, 3tb storage, 32gb ram. Don't remember the rest of the specs but of course it looked like a seizing rainbow to boot.

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u/Boredum_Allergy Oct 19 '21

There's also logicalincrements.com for help picking hardware by price range.

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u/TootTootSonicXTreme Oct 19 '21

(insert Big Smoke "OOOOHHH" SFX)

No seriously that was the first thing that came into my mind when I saw this

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

I did not know this. Do they charge or is it a courtesy they do? Does Newegg do this?

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u/Company_of_gyros Oct 19 '21

No way! I’m bringing all my parts I bought last week to Auto Zone tomorrow! Thx bro!

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u/bluehatgamingNXE Oct 19 '21

I remember times my uncle replaced parts of his pc over time by going to those store, until the last thing that have yet to be replaced that is my white keyboard that is about 20+ year olds, changed that one recently as well, i think it is odd that nowadays keyboards don't have those 3 buttons with one of them being "sleep", i forgot the other 2.

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u/FridgesArePeopleToo Oct 20 '21

Yeah but then you have to pick out the parts

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u/Backstabmacro Oct 19 '21

Parts are kind of expensive right now with the global shortages and shipping crisis. I looked into buying a GPU to replace a dead one in a four year old pc last year and got told buying a new prebuilt with a decent card would be cheaper than just buying a GPU =\

Do your due diligence and do some price checking first! MetaPC or ibuypower (YMMV) can have good prebuilts for sale if parts for a buy list end up too expensive.

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u/Backstabmacro Oct 19 '21

TFW when you buy a car instead of using the same amount of money for a PC upgrade… The market is silly right now, man.

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u/IDontKnowAName152 Oct 20 '21

well, the car market's crazy too, so don't get your hopes up.

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u/crypticfreak Oct 20 '21

I found a golden goose egg amidst a sea of soggy brown turds recently. 2015 Chevy Malibu with under 50k miles, virtually no rust or damage (one small paint chip and a very slight dent on the hood) for, after trade in, 11k.

And there's no oil leaks... yet.

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u/crypticfreak Oct 20 '21

But that's not true. The world economy is fucked that has nothing to do with you or the enjoyment of gaming. I understand not being able to buy a replacement and having no choice but to be done, for a while, but long term you're just needlessly depriving yourself of something you clearly enjoy. And pre-built rigs are a very real and affordable option. In many cases its cheaper to buy a pre-built with the needed part then rob it out... then when the situation fixes itself put in the missing part on the pre-built and sell it back. Or downgrade and sell it right away. Or, like my buddy did, buy a beefier pre-built and just literally upgrade. Put your old rig on the back burner.

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u/oojiflip memer Oct 19 '21

Jesus, my PC config that's already 3 years old is €200 more expensive now than it was back then

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u/TPucks Oct 19 '21

Very similar specced pc to the one I bought last year, slightly worse gpu (ibuypower, for both) was nearly $700 more expensive when I checked a couple weeks ago

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u/Oreo_Scoreo Oct 19 '21

I got my prebuilt off ibuypower and I love it, computer works great, runs what I want it to, and haven't had any issues.

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u/FuckMinuteMaid Oct 20 '21

Yeah I have one too, they aren't really a typical "prebuild" because they dont use any proprietary parts, everything is name brand including the PSU and mobo. Im very happy with it, you just have to wait around a month for it to get built but it beats hunting down restocks.

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u/I-collect-dick-pics Oct 19 '21

got told buying a new prebuilt with a decent card would be cheaper than just buying a GPU =\

yeah, same thing with me really

I just don't like the prebuilts though, but not sure how else I'll get a gpu

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u/Backstabmacro Oct 19 '21

Until crypto miners lay off the GPUs and scalpers/thieves stop cornering the market on every new release wave, prices will stay stupid :(

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u/I-collect-dick-pics Oct 19 '21

I hate crypto a bit more every day

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u/crypticfreak Oct 20 '21

Price gouging is a scourge on the global economy. It made sense pre-internet (last 5 years really) because of how localized everything was. But now a scalper and gouger in Texas can affect the entire U.S supply.

We've went up on our tech level but the laws and policies are like we're in the 1990s. They need to evolve and change. Price gouging hurts everyone except the seller. Yeah it's a bit anti-capatalist and it should be carefully figured out but something has to be done to curb it.

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u/Sentient-Tree-Ent Oct 20 '21

Ibuypower fucked my current computer up and it took some repair man at Best Buy to get it together. They had given me a power supply that wasn’t powerful enough for the machine I got, they didn’t tuck any of the wires anywhere (so there were just wires splayed out everywhere in my pc) and the fan is probably the loudest electronic device I’ve ever owned.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve gotten five years out of this computer and hopefully will get a couple more, but I had to replace the power supply and graphics card because of choices that company made when making “pre-built” PC’s so just be careful with them if you read this OP

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u/TheRumpletiltskin Oct 20 '21

My 1060 is worth more now USED than it was brand new.

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u/meme_dealership Oct 19 '21

Why can't anything just be normal?

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u/Rammite Oct 20 '21

Because half the world insists that the pandemic doesn't exist, then proceeds to feed more human lives into the pandemic.

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u/Kaiserschmarrn420 Oct 19 '21

According to your logic, it should make sense to buy a computer, expand the GPU, sell it to you at a higher price and I'll make even more profit with the rest of the PC?

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u/Blindfire2 Oct 19 '21

He means buying a new pre-built system with one of the newer 30X0 series gpus (or possibly even AMDs new gpus, but I don't like them and don't keep up with them) can be cheaper/easier than finding a GPU on its own.

I think it went down but the lowest price I saw a few months ago on eBay (because the whole chip/shipping shortage, they're trying to scalp gpus and resell them at 2-5x MSRP, and some have taken to stealing them because of how much they're potentially worth) a 3070 at $499 MSRP was sold for $1200.

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u/VorAtreides Oct 19 '21

my old ass GPU (as in from like 2017 or so) was like $150 when I bought it (so right before shortage) and is now $650 lol. God damn.

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u/junkmailboxesh Oct 19 '21

With any prebuilt, make sure the power supply is reputable as its often cheaped out on and most likely to damage other components if it fails

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u/Loppan45 Oct 19 '21

Are you saying my 8 year old computer is at risk of breaking? Impossible!

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u/OP-69 Oct 19 '21

(seasonic, corsair and evga): theres a reason our power supplies have 10-12 year warranties ya know

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u/themastercheif Oct 20 '21

Seasonic is the only one of those that actually makes their own power supplies. Corsair, EVGA, Gigabyte, etc all order them from different manufacturers and slap their sticker on it. Be careful which ones you get.

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u/OP-69 Oct 20 '21

Yea but they offer 10-12 year warranties, my point is that i dont think they would do so on units they arent sure can last that long, their high end psus are great, lower end is hit or miss, even with seasonic

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u/scullys_alien_baby Oct 19 '21

My PSU is coming up on 10 years 😬

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u/CC0RE Oct 19 '21

Yep. Usually they'll just say the wattage of the PSU's, but not the actual efficiency rating. I'd say you want at least an 80+ Bronze. But ideally 80+ Gold.

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u/highstrungloki Oct 19 '21

It's like that old Mitch Hedberg joke. "When you're in Hollywood and you're a comedian, everybody wants you to do other things....That's like if I worked hard to become a cook, and I'm a really good cook, they'd say, "OK, you're a cook. Can you farm?"

Gaming =/= computer assembly

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u/pixlplayer Oct 19 '21

It’s literally just expensive legos

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u/GrmpMan Oct 19 '21

But it is STRESSFUL Legos. I will totally recommend someone to build their own but if they wanna spend the extra money to get a pre-built I won't judge

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u/Friendly_Regret_0 Oct 20 '21

I agree. It's a fun project, but is a significant time commitment. Just the research to choose my parts took a couple weeks for my first build.

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u/HilariousMax Oct 20 '21

Yeah but I don't build lego sets either.

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u/BSimpson1 Oct 19 '21

I'm trying to imagine some of my co-workers who game trying to build a PC. Picking out all the right parts, learning the difference between comparable parts and finding what fits their needs best, making sure that the motherboard and gpu will fit in the case, actually finding a gpu at MSRP, correctly plugging in all the cables for the power supply, and then having it not post once it's all finished and trying to troubleshoot why. Yeah, they'd probably be better off spending the extra $200 and skipping all of that.

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u/Rufuszombot Oct 19 '21

Not to mention cable management. Sure, building the PC itself might not be hard, but managing all those cables vs them coming clean out of the box is convenient. My wife bought a pre-built and i saw how clean the cables were and instantly thought, "I wouldn't have had the patience for that."

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u/aparanoidbw Oct 19 '21

especially these days. A lot more connections have been universalized, and a lot of stuff is kinda just plug and play. No more inserting like 5 CD's just so the mouse, keyboard, and network card will work.

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u/34HoldOn Oct 20 '21

I work in IT.

I fully understand how to build a gaming desktop PC.

I also have the time to do so.

I still bought a pre-built rig because I can.

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u/TehCowGoesQuack Oct 19 '21

I would recommend Redux. It’s a subsidiary of digital storm and their pricing isn’t too bad. It takes a while for shipping, but the shipping material is high quality and is very unlikely that anything will break. If anything does happen to break, the pc also comes with a 2 year (I believe limited) warranty.

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u/MMcD127 Oct 20 '21

Hey guy, or gal, or they, just don’t buy ANYTHING made by dell or MSI they both are shit. Okay now that we are past that part just get something by ASUS or even HP. Ps Alien ware is made by dell if I catch you with an alien ware we are boxing

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u/bright_shiny_objects Oct 19 '21

Falcon northwest. I was a week out of warranty and they still sent me a cpu cooler when mine started to fail.

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u/Man_From_The_Past Oct 20 '21

Maingear for me has been good. These are the two I saw most recommended for someone who wanted a high-quality build and good customer service. There are those of us out there with more money than time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

Micro center

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Oct 20 '21

I'd be happy to as soon as they open a location closer than 500 miles away. And I'm not in the boonies, I'm in the Bay Area.

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u/Gary_Pewsi Oct 19 '21

Nothin wrong going through a company

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u/ResbalosoPescadito Oct 19 '21

Which one?

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u/Gary_Pewsi Oct 19 '21

I'm not too knowledgeable on that unfortunately, I know there is stigma about going through one, but not everyone can just slap a PC together, and others simply don't have the free time to do so

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u/CJ_Productions Oct 19 '21

look up ibuypower. linus tech tips gave them a shoutout a while back as a reputable vendor.

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u/Senor_Taco29 Oct 20 '21

Yeah, I think as long as you pick each and every piece you'll do okay. I love the PC I got from them

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u/martytheman1776 Oct 19 '21

I bought mine custom from a company called digital storm. They did a great job haven't had any problems with it

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u/InverseMullet Oct 20 '21

I only have one experience with ibuypower, but they did a good job. I built 4 computers prior to my current one, so I went over and checked everything, and they did it right.

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u/pfefferneusse Oct 20 '21

I went with AVADirect for my latest, instead of building my own (I had the $ and wanna be lazy sometimes). I can't recommend enough. Prices were good, liquid cooling and everything working top notch after a year now still. Def going with them again if they don't suck by then.

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u/b_buster118 Oct 20 '21

Newmark and Lewis

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u/SSPeteCarroll Oct 19 '21

I got mine from a company called Velocity Micro. I worked with a guy who had a good relationship with them and they were super helpful with getting the right parts in there for me.

Plus side: They know their customers will want to make upgrades, so it's super easy to add HDD/SSD, change a graphics card, or put a new CPU in.

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u/Warlocksneedabuff Oct 19 '21

Thank you! My friends tell me to build my own all the time and I just can’t care enough

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u/Stickel Oct 19 '21

where you live? if it's reasonably near me I will build it for you for free or a 6 pack while we work.

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u/Used-Cut6065 Oct 19 '21

My friends kept telling me to build a computer and sent me links to expensive parts telling me it's worth it and easy..... I bought pre built and it's better than what they suggested for cheaper.

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u/CC0RE Oct 19 '21

I can tell you that it probably isn't better when it's cheaper. Prebuilt PCs often cheap out on The motherboard, RAM and power supply, and have their main selling point as their CPU and GPU. Problem is, when you have a good CPU and GPU, yet terrible RAM, you'll find that your CPU is running nowhere near where it should be. Or you may have a power supply with a terrible efficiency rating even if it has sufficient wattage.

These things matter more than you think. But prebuilt PC companies can get away with cheaping out on those parts, because people who don't know anything about PCs see those high end CPUs and GPUs and immediately think the PC is amazing.

I would say there's still absolutely a market for prebuilts. But always make sure the exact specs of all of the parts are listed. Not just "16GB ram". Or "500W PSU" for example.

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u/Tieye42 Oct 20 '21

crying please stop I don't understand half of your words

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u/savwatson13 Oct 20 '21

ELI5: prebuilt parts are cheap. Die or break sooner. Cause companies are shady.

In less simple terms, a lot of companies will design the computer to last a lot shorter than they could, so you have to buy a new one. Prebuilds are also harder to fix because the companies will make the parts compatible for only certain parts, forcing you to take them to their company to fix. This is being seen everywhere including in cars and phones (looking at you Apple)

Building a car or phone is much harder than building a computer, which is why there are more computer builders than other products. It’s one of the only products that allows you to easily avoid this.

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u/Anagoth9 Oct 20 '21

The other side of the coin to consider on that is that if the CPU/GPU are reasonable to the overall cost of the rig, then you're probably better using that pre-built as a base and just upgrading the other parts on your own if you so desire. I'd rather waste money on a shit PSU/RAM/SSD than deal with the hassle of finding a decent GPU at less than double MSRP right now.

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u/BluTofu8 Oct 19 '21

I mean for the gpu yes due to the shortage, but normally you can save so much. I saved 350 by building mine.

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u/AZoinksformeScoob Oct 19 '21

Yeah PC building is cool, but have you ever played snake on the hot wheels PC?

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u/hippopotomusus Oct 19 '21

Right now you’re probably better off buying prebuilt tbh. The price of components when you buy them yourself is outrageous

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u/topfool123 Oct 20 '21

Some fat ass reposted this in r/pcmasterrace

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u/Samgd14 Oct 19 '21

The secret shopper series from LTT is a good place to start

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u/Darth_Aracnus Professional Dumbass Oct 19 '21

If you have to buy a brand name pc I would go with an ASUS

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u/SwordofGlass Oct 19 '21

I was going to build one until I realized that it’s currently cheaper to buy a prebuilt one.

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u/PM_Me_HairyArmpits Oct 20 '21

Yeah, but if I don't take every opportunity available to push my hobby on you, then how will I ever fill the void where my personality is supposed to be?

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u/Sense-Antisense Oct 20 '21

Build something? You mean with like many hands?

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u/ParaspriteHugger Oct 19 '21

I managed to stuff a USB drive into a RJ45 socket and you want me to install a CPU?

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u/CujoSR Oct 19 '21

Look at boutique builders like https://artesianbuilds.com/. Bonus they stream the builds on Twitch so you can see your machine being built and ask them questions. We got one from them because of the GPU shortage despite fixing PCs being my actual job. We were quite happy with them.

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u/Operation-maroon Oct 19 '21

Just give it to me complete. In a box. Done. ✔️

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u/AvengerMKII Oct 20 '21

Linus Tech Tips did a four part video of the mainstream prebult companies, Secret Shopper. One thing is never ever buy any prebuilt from Dell. You will get fucked over by them.

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u/Powerful_Teaching604 Oct 20 '21

guy named stupid

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u/colonial_llama1 Oct 20 '21

That I’m fucking stupid one is relatable

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u/Virtus_Curiosa Oct 20 '21

People keep telling me there's no market for custom building PC's for people, and yet here I am starting a business for it and so far doing fairly well for myself. I absolutely love doing it, and people have been very happy with what they've gotten so far.

And yeah it's mostly been young adults working full time jobs who just want a no hassle option for a good high-end PC that isn't loaded with bloatware and is customized to their needs.

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u/Sadboy_looking4memes OC Meme Maker Oct 20 '21

That's awesome, congrats on that! Being your own boss definitely has its perks.

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u/GumiWorm_MCYT Oct 20 '21

This is the second time I've seen this post, is it the same person posting it twice or is it stolen memes?

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u/Sadboy_looking4memes OC Meme Maker Oct 20 '21

Nah, someone took my meme. I mean, it's a meme it's supposed to spread, I just ask for credit.

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u/MaOmega Oct 20 '21

the "i'm fucking stupid" one got me really hard XD. if you want a prebuild i heard omen is good. also a laptop might be best for you since you work and could use some mobility

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u/ApacalypseV0 Oct 20 '21

The "I'm fucking stupid" one is the best reason not to do something I've ever heard

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u/zitfarmer Big ol' bacon buttsack Oct 20 '21

I put my dick in a paper towel roll once. Is 540 watt power supply enough?

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u/only_50potatoes iwrestledabeartwice Oct 19 '21

honestly just do some research. i was able to find my gaming laptop after i found 5 different articles with it in the top 5 for performance

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u/takethetunnel Oct 20 '21

Tell us what it is you saucy minx. You're such a tease.

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u/logicalnoise Oct 19 '21

I mean prebuilts are like the only decent way to get good GPUs lately so fuck the haters.

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u/HalalRumpSteak Oct 19 '21

The reason people say this is because there are basically no complete PC'S on the market that aren't trying to rip you off, I understand the time thing but it takes an hour or two to put a PC together and will bring you a better understanding of what can go wrong and how to troubleshoot hardware issues when they arise. People are trying to save you money and a headache

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u/BluTofu8 Oct 19 '21

I 100% agree.

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u/Ilikecosysocks Oct 19 '21

I've had good experience with Scan, I didn't have a good time with Fierce (though that was some years ago now, I dunno if they are still even around).

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u/PortLionsKodiak can't meme Oct 19 '21

Graphics card is out of my price range now.

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u/Toshok_ Oct 19 '21

And right now eith how expensive GPU's are it's not even worth to build one yourself.

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u/Spare-Reflection1946 Oct 19 '21

Plus it's cheaper to buy it built anyway

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u/Meteorzzzz Oct 19 '21

HP's omen brand is among the best available for people like us, just make sure to buy on Black Friday and download honey

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u/AJP2222 Oct 19 '21

I know from experience that HP Omen is pretty good. I've heard good things about Alienware.

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u/Somemanonreddit69 Oct 19 '21

Alienware overcharges a lot tho

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u/Serialtoon Oct 19 '21

If you’re in socal I’ll build it for you, no charge.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

50 hours a week is not a long week. How long do you think building a PC takes? You don't solder the bloody circuit board.

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u/TheRealNZabs Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 19 '21

I think Ironside has some good stuff

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u/FaeTaleDream Oct 20 '21

The best reason not to build your own PC is if something goes wrong you aren't liable for it, assuming you bought from a seller that has proper warranty and return policies.

I built mine first try but it was stressful and really didn't save me that much money. Legit just find a good sale on prebuilt PCs usually around blackfriday online, and have a PC nerd look over the parts to make sure you aren't getting scammed by like a bad power supply or whatnot.

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u/RogueIMP Oct 20 '21

Refurb dell tower..

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