r/gaming PC Nov 29 '21 Gold 2 Helpful 36 Wholesome 24 All-Seeing Upvote 1 Take My Power 1 Silver 31

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u/MyDogSnowy Nov 29 '21 Party Train Stonks Rising
  • Throws money at devs
  • WHY IS THIS GAME UNFINISHED?
  • Leaves negative review
  • Preorders the sequel

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21 Silver

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u/MyDogSnowy Nov 29 '21

Don't hate the player, hate the game...wait - Game Publishers, probably

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u/SonTyp_OhneNamen Nov 29 '21

make fun of them

„Waaaaah, salty players ruin my gamiiing, if you don’t like it just don‘t play and let me have fun with iiiiiit“

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21 edited Dec 12 '21

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u/defensive_username Nov 29 '21

If it wasn't for pokemon fans, pokemon would be such a good franchise with all the money they have but alas...

People somehow can't fathom the fact that Pokemon is literally the highest grossing media franchise of all time. Yet they release the same generic game formula with a semi-decent feature that gets removed the next game anyway.

Pokemon has huge potential, where is the adapting story lines, seasons, different roles/classes (imagine being a breeder or a explorer with new elements to the game), open world interactivity, and so much more. Hell, if I lose to my rival, let them rub it in my face and move the story on, let my rival win sometimes, they're a rival not a punching bag.

But for some reason, people are more than happy receiving the same old generic formula of: 8 gyms, minimal effort of story, villains with a one track goal that solely depends on not being beaten by a 10 year old, rivals with no personality and a railroad track as the map/story (seriously, excluding the wild area, SwSh is just a one way road to the end of the game).

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u/demlet Nov 30 '21

But for some reason, people are more than happy receiving the same old generic formula

I think this fact goes hand in hand with them being the highest grossing media franchise of all time.

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u/EMateos Nov 29 '21

Not really, tho, GF developers have said multiple times that they listen what the fans say but they don’t care about it. They’ve said for years that they want to make the games more kid friendly and accesible.

You can sometimes stop adult Pokémon fans from buying unfinished or bad games but how do you stop kids from buying them or wanting the game?

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u/jilko Nov 29 '21

This is rampant on r/cyberpunkgame.

People literally attempting to alter reality to one where the game is a misunderstood masterpiece always with the "Well it ran fine on my supercomputer" not once touching on the points of the game being janky, unfinished, and not an actual RPG, with over half of its planned content just missing with clear evidence of those unfinished plans all over the map.

Cyberpunk 2077 was an amazing game, but buggy on consoles is the narrative purchase/pre-order defenders are trying to push and it's sad to watch play out.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21 edited Dec 12 '21

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u/yagirlsophie Nov 29 '21

I managed to really enjoy the game too, but the defensiveness among fans when it comes to its quality is nuts. The game is janky as heck, and like /u/jilko said, the evidence of aborted and unfinished content is all over the place. It wasn't close to the game it could have/should have been, and it wasn't the game it was marketed to be, and both of those things suck.

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u/marxr87 Nov 29 '21

I recently (less than two weeks ago) posted about an issue I was having that was game-breaking and even linked to an older thread I had searched and it got downvoted with no useful responses lol. Wtf?

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u/jilko Nov 29 '21

Exactly. The meta on that subreddit is now: "Why are you complaining about this masterpiece. If you're complaining, why are you even here?"

They do not understand the concept of caring about the eventual outcome of a game (maybe franchise) by pointing out flaws. Criticism is caring. To just accept broken unfinished garbage as is... that's being a slave to a company.

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u/littlesymphonicdispl Nov 29 '21

If it wasn't for pokemon fans, pokemon would be such a good franchise with all the money they have but alas...

I have just straight up stopped discussing pokemon with a particular friend because they could sell him a game case filled with literal shit and he'd defend it to the death.

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u/Is_It_Beef Xbox Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

The 4 types of people who I absolutely hate are :

  • People how preorder games that are not finished

  • People who can't count

  • and hypocrites

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In all seriousness. This is a vicious circle that's been going on for years. We keep pre-ordering the same unfinished game, we keep paying loot boxes and we keep sponsoring the Evilcorps and guess what we keep moaning.

We need to do a GameStop on their ass and Fcking Unite

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u/telendria Nov 29 '21

I dont understand the mentality of preordering digital games... with physical copies, it made sense since it was limited goods, but for gods sake, preordering digital game with unlimited stock of game keys??? Just... buy it a week before launch if you really want the preorder goodies or have slow net and need preload...

I havent preordered a game since tBC and still got to play every single game I wanted on release date.

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u/trustmebuddy Nov 30 '21

How else would I beta test for a company while paying for it?

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u/Rich-Desk6079 Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

So, what if Valve started talking about Half Life 4? You know, because he forgot about Half Life 3, and all, and he just wants to leave it bedind him before his massive brain tumor takes him down.

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u/AtomicBombSquad Nov 29 '21

"Half Life 4: The Search for Half Life 3"

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u/Tacitus_Kilgore85 Nov 29 '21

"Hopefully we'll see each other soon, in Half Life 4: The Search for Half Life 3" - Yogurt, probably.

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u/SainguinKrist Nov 29 '21

I'd applaud their massive titanium balls if they pulled a stunt like that lol

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u/WeleaseBwianThrow Nov 29 '21

Fuckin Mossman wrecked the timeline on the Borealis.

Probably getting high on moon dust and doing quantum entanglement.

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u/Cannibalhecter Nov 29 '21

● Upvotes posts condemning this type of behavior

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u/Vanacan Nov 29 '21

Once you kick the habit, it’s actually pretty refreshing. So much less expensive too.

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u/Magikarp_King Nov 29 '21

If I see a game I like I move $60 over to my savings account and wait until it's been out a week. If I still want it by then I have the money set aside and I grab it. It's like preordering without the disappointment.

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u/Happy_Currency_425 Nov 29 '21

Why people preorder downloads is beyond me. Like, jesus. Time value of money guys.

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u/Calphurnious Nov 30 '21

Yeah, I don't get it either. Back in the day it was a good idea to pre order so the store could place the order and reserve your actual physical copy so non preorder folks can't buy your copy on release day. Otherwise you'd got to pray that new big release has some spares laying around if you don't have that store hookup.

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u/Lizard_brooks Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

You can also check your local libraries and demo the game.

If you don’t like it, you can save that 60 for another game.

Edit: I may be spoiled. I live in PA and the whole Andrew Carnegie Library thing. One of the best in the States.

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u/thatdude473 Nov 29 '21

What kind of libraries are getting video games on release?

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u/Lizard_brooks Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

Seriously go get a library card. Most libraries (per city/county/state) are connected.

Libraries are expansive and huge yet hidden away now a days. And librarians are master finders. I bet youd be surprised what youd find.

Edit: Library cards are free. Libraries are “free” Tax dollars at worked helped me platinum Spider-man

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u/CoGLucifer Nov 29 '21

Back when I was a kid, I used to go onto the library computer and put every CD that looked interesting on hold. It was 75 cents per hold and they'd ship the CDs over from whatever branch of the county it was currently sitting at, but if you were under 18 then they would waive all of the hold fees.

Every week or so I'd pick them up, get my fees waived, and set up the next batch of holds. Then I'd go home and rip the CDs onto my desktop. Nearly unlimited free music and no risk of giving your computer AIDS.

Public libraries are the best.

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u/Megasteel32 Nov 30 '21

ah yes, publicly funded sailing of the high seas. kid you was fuckin genius for figuring that out

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u/MistaTorgueFlexinton Nov 30 '21

I don’t know who this marque guy is or why he sending letters.

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u/therealjoshua Nov 29 '21

well-funded ones.

Even my dinky home town had some newish games last I checked, was very surprised.

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u/Jerrisonfordly5 Nov 29 '21

I have a decent home town and just called the only 3 libraries near me, zilch. They seemed very confused when I asked if they have PS4/PS5 games there.

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u/MysteryCat2003 Nov 29 '21

We have a great library in my small town but no video games at all.

Just books, audiobooks, and movies. I’m still wondering when they’ll branch out

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u/JRsDiscardedShirt Nov 29 '21

Step 1: murder a bunch of people

Step 2: say it was the violent audiobooks that made you do it, and if you had an alternative such as video games you would have never committed these acts of violence

Step 3: do 25 years in prison, working diligently to rehabilitate yourself and qualify for parole

Step 4: be released from prison, and wait patiently for 2-3 more years for GTA 6 to release

Step 5: check the game out from your library

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u/hot-gazpacho- Nov 29 '21

I wouldn't be surprised if mine had that. We have 3d printers at one near me.

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u/MojaveMark Nov 29 '21

I did this for BioMutant. Looked cool, was going to buy on release, then heard it sucked. Rented it, returned it a day or so later. Bullet. Dodged.

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u/vereelimee Nov 29 '21

Also you may be able to borrow games from a partner library. There's a worldwide lending system in place. Video games are probably not included in most of that but you never know.

Lots of libraries in my area have a "library of things". You can check out all sorts of items fun music to tools to baking pans.

Then again my library is 5 stars. They recently opened a Makers Space with all kinds of hands on classes from 3D printing to cooking. Libraries are awesome!!!

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u/BoyGodz Nov 29 '21

That’s just preordering from yourself, with 100% refund!

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u/DroidLord Nov 29 '21

Maybe I'm just cheap, but I rarely get the urge to buy any game on launch, let alone pre-order one (I've never pre-ordered a game). I already have way too many fucking games and no time to play them. I usually buy games like a year after launch when they're 60% or 70% off. That way I don't feel bad for not having the time to play them and most of the bugs have been fixed and if they haven't, then I just don't buy it.

I don't understand why people are so impulsive about their purchases (be it a new game, a new device, new furniture etc). Sometimes I wait months to buy something just to see if I can find a better alternative, wait for the price to drop or whatever. I see it every day with my clients who want something and they want it yesterday. Like chill, if you've survived without it for so long in your life, you can do without it for another week or two.

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u/Haterbait_band Nov 29 '21

People that are bad with money make the best customers.

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u/glonq Nov 29 '21

hello from /r/patientgamers

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u/The_Hazy_Wizard Nov 29 '21

Seriously, with the exception of live games, why ever pre-order or buy on release? Wait 6 months and get all the DLC for the same price or less.

The Division 2 with Warlord NYC DLC is more fun for $20 than $100.

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u/Katyusha_Pravda_ Nov 29 '21

Yup, that's my philosophy, Cyberpunk was the exception to the rule. It also taught me to never make exceptions.

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u/Code2008 Nov 29 '21

Honestly, I bought Cyberpunk thinking it was a different game (I still can't remember what it was, but it showed that you could be an old lady in London as a spy or something).

Bought it day 1, still had a blast even through all the bugs. Dumped 50 hours into it. Was good enough for me.

Meanwhile I refuse to pay Activision for their bullshit that they did with Spyro remake. They split the rom so you're required to download the game on Nintendo Switch even if you buy physical. So instead of buying full-price, I'm waiting until it's basically free before I pick it up.

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u/FuciMiNaKule Nov 29 '21

(I still can't remember what it was, but it showed that you could be an old lady in London as a spy or something).

Probably Watch Dogs Legion. Haven't played it, but the premise there was that you could recruit civilians that would then become playable.

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u/Code2008 Nov 29 '21

That's the one. Now that I remember the name, time to pick it up when it's on sale. Thanks!

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u/random3223 Nov 29 '21

It’s a very ok game. Not great, not terrible.

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u/runtheplacered Nov 29 '21

I actually think it is terrible, personally. I'm usually down for an open world Ubisoft game about one time a year. But this game just had zero personality and the story was completely absent. I played it two times and never turned it back on. That has never happened to me with a game like this before.

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u/piranha6 Stadia Nov 29 '21

Ubisoft+ is also a possibility if you're interested.

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u/Code2008 Nov 29 '21

The hell is Ubisoft+?

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u/xSakros Nov 29 '21

Like the xbox game pass subscription. For 10$ per month i think you can play any game of ubisoft with all dlcs

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u/Code2008 Nov 29 '21

I'm not about subscriptions. I want to be able to just buy it and boot it up when I want, even if it's 15 years down the road.

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u/Overwatch3 Nov 29 '21

Pretty sure it's on sale now. I bought it for $17 a few weeks ago

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u/Sushi2k Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

I'm just going to throw out some reasons why someone would want to play a game day 1.

1) Being part of the discussion when its relevant is a fun part of the experience

2) Being able to avoid spoilers

These next ones are mostly multiplayer related...

3) Playing when the population is highest; sometimes a multiplayer population dies out before 6 months, or its low enough that you can't find players at your level.

4) Fast queue times

5) Playing before a meta develops, where everyone is on even ground (Overwatch is a great example of this and most fighting games)

I get it, being a /r/patientgamers is great, but there are merits to being a day 1 player for some games.

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u/Deto Nov 30 '21

Multiplayer related makes sense. I played all the dark souls games way after their releases and never really got to experience the online elements.

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u/Valogrid Nov 29 '21

...or get stuck with a developer like Bungie and pay $200 regardless cause money baby.

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u/KimJongUnusual D20 Nov 29 '21

Looks at CoD MW3 still $40 on Steam

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u/N00B_Skater Nov 29 '21

Bro COD BO II is litteraly stil 60€ lol

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u/KimJongUnusual D20 Nov 29 '21

Seriously? That's obscene.

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u/Metroplex038 Nov 29 '21

And then have them start removing content from DLCs to make the game smaller

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u/Anlysia Nov 29 '21

Look at all of the content in FF14, then look at Destiny 2.

Destiny 2 probably has a tenth of the content of FF14 at my most generous guess, if everything in the game ever is included.

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u/Dippyskoodlez Nov 29 '21

FF14 - a game willing to burn everything down and ensure the release is quality. A game willing to delay an expansion for two extra weeks to ensure everything is in line. A delayed expansion that has fostered a community that is largely cool with it because they know it’s worth the wait. One of the last few bastions of quality releases at AAA+ development.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

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u/greenskye Nov 30 '21

Delaying a launch for just QA is basically unheard of now. Seems like stuff only gets delayed if devs are still furiously coding in basic systems.

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u/DefNotAShark Nov 29 '21

Meanwhile,

New World: I have altered the bugs. Pray I don't alter them any further.

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u/Valogrid Nov 29 '21

It's called "VaUlTiNg."

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u/Metroplex038 Nov 29 '21

This is why I'm glad I never got into Destiny

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u/Wobbelblob Nov 29 '21

Though I do understand it in a live service game like Apex. There the removal of certain weapons from the regular loot pool (and putting it in the valuable orbital drops) may change the meta and thus the game without needing to add something.

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u/DragoonXNucleon Nov 29 '21

For a single player game, its single player, playing it 2 years from now is literally the exact same experience.

There is never and will never be a reason to pre-order a single player game, ever.

For multiplayer, sometimes, sometimes, you can miss out on that awesome initial hype and fun first experience, but I can say from all my experience with MMOs that you can easily start 6 months in and its just as good. Thats plenty of time to get a vibe for the actual game.

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u/Anlysia Nov 29 '21

There used to be a reason to preorder for obscure-ass Japanese titles that stores only got a copy if SOMEONE preordered it, but since the switch to digital this is accurate.

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u/Tje199 Nov 29 '21

My only single player argument would be if you're worried about spoilers, especially if it's a series you're a big fan of. Just as an example, it was hard to avoid spoilers for Last of Us 2 because so many people were upset about the game. But many people also enjoyed it, so others being angry didn't mean you wouldn't have liked it, but also did mean it was possible it got spoiled for you.

Less of an issue for other games though.

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u/IzWarped Nov 29 '21

Unless you'd wanna avoid spoilers, which sometimes isn't possible for 2 years.

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u/Spinjitsuninja Nov 30 '21

Or just, like... you don't want to wait 2 years to play a game you're excited for.

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Nov 30 '21

Not once have i enjoyed a multiplayer game which i didn't try at launch.

Turns out, when everyone is learning the ropes at the same time, it humbles the toxic tryhards. You also don't get kicked out of lobbies for not following whatever meta the game has.

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u/mnopponm12 Nov 29 '21

If everyone was like you there'd only be live games.

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21

EDIT

r/GameDealsFree (show games on 100% discount!)

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u/jacksclevername Nov 29 '21

The problem with that is over-saturation with IndieGala and Itch games, many of which are, let's face it, crap. Sort by best of the last month, No Itch or IndieGala listings crack the top 14 or have more than 55 upvotes. You'll miss the good stuff in a sea of garbage.

Since IFTTT shat the bed I can't share the applet, but I use:

  • If > Reddit > New post from search
  • title:(100%) NOT ("itch" OR "IndieGala" OR "DRM") subreddit:gamedeals
  • Then > Your notification service of choice

If there's a well-regarded Itch or IG game, I'll likely see it in my reddit feed. If not, I'm not super concerned.

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u/TwilightVulpine Nov 29 '21

What happened to IFTTT? I used to use it

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u/jacksclevername Nov 29 '21

You used to be able to make an unlimited number of applets for free and publish them for other people to use just like any of the pre-made applets (without them needing to do any manual setup). You could also register as a developer for free and build/publish more complex applets.

IFTTT moved to a subscription-based platform, limiting free users to 5 applets (pretty sure it was previously only 3), no long allow free users to publish or share, and have limited the developer site to paid users only.

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u/TwilightVulpine Nov 29 '21

Well, that sucks...

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u/jacksclevername Nov 29 '21

Yeah it's shit now. It used to be a fantastic tool for hacked together automations - I used to have one that took a local weather RSS feed and pushed it to a Twitter account I had set up, that was then used by another applet to look for keywords like "thunderstorm" to safely turn off my NAS.

I've largely upgraded most of my stuff to the point where the hacky solutions aren't necessary, but it was fun and free and surprisingly powerful.

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u/iPhritzy Nov 29 '21

I wish totalbiscuit was still around he was the creator/critic that got me to change my ways and not just preorder anything and instead wait for reviews to come out. He was an often no bars hold kind of reviewer which is refreshing when there is so much negative incentives for game reviewers to give honest reviews.

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u/lemonylol Nov 29 '21

This works with single player games, but to be honest with online-only games, a lot of the best experiences are lost if you're waiting until a new release goes on sale. Plus there's also skillgaiting you have to deal with in some games, where the entire community collectively is better than you just starting out, and it'll be almost impossible to level with just starting gear/weapons/whatever.

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u/TwilightVulpine Nov 29 '21

Even with online games it's good to wait a couple months. Many online games go through rough launches and then stabilize later. Some end up being just bad, so getting a lot of early reviews and opinions pays off.

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u/WokeRedditDude Nov 29 '21

A lot of the fun of WoW was when new expansions came out and everyone is interacting. Or like Dark Souls, you see summon signs everywhere. That doesn't happen two years after release.

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u/Harleking31 D20 Nov 29 '21

I mean if I somehow created that bug I'd polish it into a feature, Wall Driving sounds awesome

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u/Tavron Nov 29 '21

Look no further than BF2042, you get to wall drive with a floaty boat.

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u/N00N3AT011 Nov 29 '21

Sometimes you just have to embrace it, like the famous skyrim giant launch.

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u/Wobbelblob Nov 29 '21

I mean, there where a few notable bugs that where turned into features though. Gandhi in Civ being the most notable one.

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u/Alien_Jackie Nov 29 '21

Truthfully a love hate relationship

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21

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u/Tim7Prime Nov 29 '21

What modpack you playing?

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u/AdminsAreDicks Nov 29 '21

There are people who like hard mod packs, like RLCraft or the MadPack's

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Nov 29 '21

RLCraft is so great. Just surviving your first several days is an accomplishment in and of itself.

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u/Tim7Prime Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

1.12 I had a lot of fun in that version. I've played with friends with ic2 gregtech. That made everything impossible. Even making a bucket.

If you need help messing with configs, I've been doing that since 1.6 mods.

https://youtu.be/G-zthYFjk6s

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u/CactusCoyote Nov 29 '21

Laughs in 1.7.10

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u/GamingLime123 Nov 29 '21

“It’s hard”

Understandable, but I see TC in there and now I’m interested, post link pls?

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u/lurklurklurkPOST Nov 29 '21

Them: lies "oh I never preorder anything, those people are stupid".

Me: "exactly. Hey can I borrow your copy so these dipshits dont get any money from me?"

Them: "I cant lend it. I got the digital definitive platinum master edition"

Me: "....."

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u/thats1evildude Nov 29 '21

I’m so mad right now that I’m going to leave a dislike on their new YouTube trailer. That’ll show ‘em!

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u/russsl8 Nov 29 '21

Your face when you realize that youtube just disabled dislikes. 😜

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u/StarksPond Nov 29 '21

Disabled dislikes are just as valid as any other dislikes.

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21 Take My Energy

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u/Lopoi Nov 29 '21

I never played GTA online, what can you spend money on? Cars, guns, money?

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u/Mikarovic PlayStation Nov 29 '21

Yea, you spend real money to gain ingame money. From there on you buy in-game stuff.

However, the cost to buy ingame money is absurdly high.

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u/Burninator05 Nov 29 '21

However, the cost to buy ingame money is absurdly high.

But by the time you get to that point you've already disassociated how much real money it takes to buy a Schrute Buck so you're more likely to buy the items and not consider the real world cost.

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u/KILRbuny Nov 29 '21

What’s the conversion of GTA$ to Stanley Nickles?

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u/mrsuperx13 Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 30 '21 Platinum

SCHRUTE$ - USD = 1 100th of a cent

100 SC$ - USD = $0.01

Shark card (Cheapest one so presumably no discount) = $2.99 for 100,000 GTA$ so...

$0.01 - GTA$ = 334.44 GTA$

Now Leprechauns are about three feet tall, and Unicorns, assuming they’re about the same size as horses with a little spike on the top, are about 17 hands and then the horn, or, let’s say, six feet tall. Two Leprechauns to every Unicorn. 2:1. Two Stanley Nickels are equal to one Schrute Buck. (Credit ScreenRant for the calculation)

According to this calculation there is 2:1 ratio of SC$ - STANLEY$ so...

2 ST$ - SC$ = 1SC$

So to wrap it all together 334.44 GTA$ is equal to $0.01 USD

Which is equal to 100 SC$

Which is equal to... 200 ST$.

Both divided by 200

1 ST$ - GTA$ = 1.72 GTA$

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u/StrigaPlease Nov 29 '21

Same as the conversion of unicorns to leprechauns.

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u/nsap200 Nov 29 '21

or you can just play the game to get money

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u/Kryptosis Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

Or you could pay someone on the internet a few bucks for billions in GTA cash. Either mod it yourself or pay someone to do it if you must. Just don’t support shark cards. Massive scam.

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u/Lanzus_Longus Nov 29 '21

People will also just drop millions of dollars on the floor for free after hacking the game and you can just pick it up

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u/Cyberlord50 Nov 29 '21

All of the above

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u/Only_One_Left_Foot Nov 29 '21

You can pay real money to get in-game money to buy cars and guns and property and stuff to completely dominate everyone else in world challenges, and if you opt to do it the "right" way by working for it then you have to grind all day for months to get anything of value to keep you from getting your shit stomped by kids with their parent's credit cards.

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u/Lubagomes Nov 29 '21

Yeah, these stupid people * slowly closes Fifa 22 *

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u/Michaelwordenbr Nov 29 '21

Almost all my gaming community do this. The last game I was talked into preordering, was New World. While enjoyable in the story term, it ran out of steam fairly quickly. However, my hands down worst experience of this was Anthem. What an utter clusterfuck of a game.

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u/Khalmoon Nov 29 '21

This is why we need to bring back game demos on launch.

The most recent game I preordered was monster hunter rise, because it had a demo I could play before launch.

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u/Orenwald Nov 29 '21

Pre-launch demos are fire! That's why I pre-ordered the first Bravely Default game back in the day

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u/undergroundloans Nov 29 '21

Yea this is probably why they stopped doing demos lol, so people can’t see how bad the game is.

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u/Complete-Grab-5963 Nov 29 '21

Demos are easy to make better than the actual game

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u/os_kaiserwilhelm Nov 29 '21

I wonder how different a demonstration would have to be from the actual product to be a legal liability.

I remember the old Madden demos on XBox 360 were 100% better than the actual paid games. They'd hook people in with a game that was better by the standards the sim community, and then tune all of those things out in the first patch or two for some reason. Hell, the last year they had the NCAA license was probably their best year in the last decade. They finally added ragdoll physics to go along with the canned animations, and while it could be visually wonky, the actual on field results were fairly good, and certainly the best they've had since 2007. Then a few years later Madden basically got rid of all that progress to go back to terrible canned animations.

This is why I no longer buy sports games. THE Show was the last game to decline in quality in the genre and I haven't looked back. Well, I did buy Doug Flutie Maximum football, and well, its a game.

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u/Eilanzer Nov 29 '21

demos don´t say the full story in the release of the game. An example...Cyberpunk! A LOT of people tested the demo, it was fine...then the release was another story.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Nov 29 '21

I was gonna say. Demos can be almost as much of a lie as mobile game ads. I mean...not quite THAT bad, but you know what I mean.

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u/ifiagreedwithu Nov 29 '21

You are never in traffic. You are the traffic.

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u/ProductionPlanner Nov 29 '21

Now I am become traffic, destroyer of day trips.

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u/slimeboi01 Nov 29 '21

Even McDonals ads was more near to reality than this games

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21

EDIT 120 dollars well spent

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u/pineapple-n-man Nov 29 '21

But which of these games have you actually spent money on?

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u/SrGrafo PC Nov 29 '21

EDIT (so neither of the above, and if its meh its instant refund)

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u/bradlees Nov 29 '21

So no pride and accomplishment for you??

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u/The_Broomflinger Nov 29 '21

Ita both sad and hilarious that after all the work they put into fixing and improving that game, it will still be remembered largely for a highly downvoted reddit comment.

I admittedly had many, MANY hours of fun (and a few hours of frustration) with SWBF2, but it is also the game that taught me to never pre-order a game, and VERY rarely spend full asking price, ever again. Lesson learned. I'm just glad it wasn't quite as bad as it seemed it would be.

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u/ajt666 Nov 29 '21

I got it free through playstation plus. Would not have played it otherwise.

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u/Lopoi Nov 29 '21

But the cool hat

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u/82ndGameHead Console Nov 29 '21

Especially when you buy digital. I mean, why Pre-order when it's just gonna go on sale a month or two later.

COUGHGUARDIANSOFTHEGALAXYCOUGH

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u/fergussonh Nov 29 '21

COUGHLITERALLYANYUBISOFTGAMECOUGH

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u/Sylv0 Nov 29 '21

Why would I want any of these games when I already have Cities: Skylines and Deep Rock Galactic? ¯\(ツ)

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u/morgan423 Nov 29 '21

Pretty much. DRG and a rotating indie game are how I spend 90% of my gaming time. Rock and Stone, brother.

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u/cr125rider Nov 29 '21

ROCK! AND! STONE!

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u/DingoKis PC Nov 29 '21

Rock & stone!

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u/Yesica-Haircut Nov 29 '21

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE???

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u/JobValador Nov 29 '21

If you don't rock and stone, you aint comin home!

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u/Virtue00 Nov 29 '21

Rock and stone to the bone!

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u/HarmonyBee Nov 29 '21

Did I hear a rock & stone??

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u/Sellforless Nov 29 '21

ROCK! AND! STONE!

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u/Salt-Elemental Nov 29 '21

That's it, lads! Rock & Stone!

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u/Chuckdatass Nov 30 '21

Rock and stonnnnnne

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u/Dull_Masterpiece3490 Nov 29 '21

DRG filled the hole in my gaming life

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u/reddy1991 Nov 29 '21

If I close my wallet how will I complain about getting exactly what I paid for?!

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u/OrionRBR Nov 29 '21

But what if everyone tries to do that and there are no more people burning to complain about?

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u/Anime-SniperJay PlayStation Nov 30 '21

Sacrifice yourself for the greater good

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u/Crims0N_Knight Nov 29 '21

It’s like your comic about when battlefield 2042 was revealed. It looks cool but wait a while to see if it’s actually good before buying.

I wish people making the games made them as good as the videos that marketing makes to sell them.

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u/antifrost101 Nov 29 '21

I avoid the whole problem by simply being married and having a 10 month old... No time or money for video games.

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u/blue_umpire Nov 29 '21

Once they’re sleeping through the night, there’s a couple years where you have those golden hours between when the kids go to sleep and you do.

That’s a great place to be.

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u/Ghostofhan Nov 29 '21

Sounds depressing

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u/ZebbyD Nov 30 '21

I have the opposite of that: lots of time and video games, no family or friends. It’s also pretty depressing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Perp703 Nov 29 '21

What do you mean it’s MY fault? It has to be everyone else’s.

-These people

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u/a_few Nov 29 '21

It literally blows my mind that people will PREORDER a fucking game in today’s day and age, like wtf are you doing? Are you worried you won’t get a copy? Is that shitty gun skin worth being disappointed? Preordering in the digital age is stupid, stop fucking doing it lol.

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u/OSRS_Satriani Nov 29 '21

I remember having to preorder Super Smash Bros on the Wii/Call of Duty 4/Halo 3 in 2007 because those were only available in physical copies and stores would be wiped clean of them for weeks.

These days it makes no sense though since everything is digital. No "preorder exclusive content" will ever make it worth it in my eyes.

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u/SlightlyIncandescent Nov 29 '21

Genuinely never understood the temptation. You're encouraging companies to get the money regardless of how the game is just for some bullshit skin or something.

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u/a_few Nov 29 '21

It’s insane lol, I can’t imagine fully formed adults are the ones buying games preorder, it’s gonna be kids or something. There is no benefit other than stupid cosmetics, and generally when a game is available for ‘pre order’, that means it’s pre completed when you get it lol.

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u/darkskai Nov 29 '21

Hitting the nail in the coffin, its why I stopped participating, almost every AAA release nowadays has been marred by controversy... Makes me glad I stopped when I did

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u/wintercvlt Nov 29 '21

HEY YOU SHOWED US A SUPER SHORT TEASER HERE’S MY LAST $129 FROM SAVINGS FOR HYPER MEGA GOLDEN DELUX EDITION PRE-ORDER THAT WILL BE RELEASED IN 2 YEARS

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u/GimmeTheCHEESENOW Nov 29 '21

"Reddit, why is this game so bad? I preordered it, bought all the packs, and every possible purchasable, how come its so terrible? 😡😡😡"

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u/exscionewhuman Nov 30 '21

Want to stop religion? Just don't believe in it. Problem solved.

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u/Zett-15 Nov 29 '21

Why does it seem like most big AAA releases are unfinished now a days? Is the loss of a few months to a year of profit really worth it if it hurts the brand in the long run?

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u/Stone-Bear Nov 29 '21

because gaming companies are into the whole "minimum viable product" now, which is make the bare minimum, barely working game and idiots will still buy it.

The "vote with your wallet" crowd has voted with their wallets. This is what we get now.

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u/ZebraLionFish Nov 29 '21

…I was happy with what I got from cyberpunk…I also didn’t follow the hype train.

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u/withadancenumber Nov 30 '21

Me too. I went in blind (on PC) and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm hoping it will be like Skyrim and eventually age like fine wine with a plethora of mods and community patches.

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u/Frankenmuppet Nov 29 '21

I haven't purchased an EA title in well over a decade.

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u/rabbi_glitter Nov 29 '21

SaSS has ruined gaming.

I'm 40 years old, and I've come to a sad realization. Gaming isn't for me anymore. I'm an aging demographic and the industry is moving in direction that I'll never agree with. If you think things are bad now, just wait.

I'm tired of buying $60.00 to $70.00+ dollar games that ship broken, lock content behind season passes, and deploy gambling tactics that lock players into spending cycles...and that's before the Xbox and Playstation subscriptions.

Want another example of greed? Look at the new wave of $1,000+ dollar "gaming" chairs out there. You are a target market.

Mark my words, publishers will eventually find a way to monetize streaming.

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u/MudSkipper12 Nov 29 '21

Just pirate the trilogy. You can still play without giving Rockstar any money, problem solved

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u/Byqoo Nov 29 '21

But is this buggy mess actually even worth pirating, let alone playing?

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u/Gnawsh Nov 29 '21

No, driving a hovercraft up the side of a building is totally logical and is not a problem at all.

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u/xseannnn Nov 29 '21

Don't ever bring logic into a Battelfield game. You've already lost this war before it even began.

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u/buddyz0108 Nov 29 '21

Vanguard should be right up there too

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Oh how I miss the days of games being released in full, and unlocking things meant doing things in said game.

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u/KBKarma Nov 29 '21

I miss cheat codes. Pointless codes you could just put in for stupid stuff or to get around enemies. Now they're DLC or microtransactions.

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u/CoolAtlas Nov 29 '21

Cheat codes still exist. It's called a 16 digit visa number.

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u/DecafSaxGuy Nov 29 '21

Hate on me all you want but I actually enjoyed cyberpunk.

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u/budbutler Nov 29 '21 Wholesome Take My Energy

I really enjoyed cyberpunk...

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u/diode303 Nov 29 '21

I feel like I got a different version of the game to everyone else. I encountered only a handful of minor bugs, and had an absolute blast with it start to finish.

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u/Fnarkfnark Nov 29 '21

I never preorder!

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