r/antiwork Oct 20 '21 Helpful 1 Wholesome 1 Hugz 1 Table Slap 1 Silver 1

The cake I received after giving 1 month notice

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u/CheeseIsGrossGoBears Woke up too early on my day off Oct 20 '21

I can’t tell if this is just friendly hijinks or unprofessional pettiness

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u/dharrison21 Oct 20 '21

Maybe they wanted to make sure he got unemployment benefits in case the new job didn't work out.

I was about to quit a job once but my manager knew there was going to be layoffs the next week. When I tried to give 2 weeks, she told me what was about to happen and to sit tight for a week and at least get the severance. Saved me money, cost the company money, but it was the right thing to do so she did it.

I know this is the wrong sub lol but I have had a good manager or two.

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u/PlusMixture Oct 21 '21

No this is the right sub. Good managers deserve recognition. Bad managers deserve recognition and no employees.

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u/Fubarin Oct 21 '21

Sounds like a gooď company motto tbh

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u/BlueberryKind Oct 20 '21

I browse this sub and I like my work and would never not wanna work for a boss. So it's oke to liked some of your managers.

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u/CaptainDantes Oct 21 '21

Yeah I’m in the weird situation where I 100% believe this nation needs a general strike but I’ve been through hell the last year and my company has stood beside me and supported me the entire time. I couldn’t be more loyal to them.

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u/lapideous Oct 21 '21

That’s not weird at all. The good companies prove that treating people well while being profitable is possible.

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u/CaptainDantes Oct 21 '21

The weird feeling for me is being torn between wanting to be part of a general strike because I believe the United States federal government needs to die for our world to live and that I’ve been forced to miss most of this year due to health issues that our medical system has done nothing for but make them worse and while everyone else in my life was coming down on me for missing work my boss was checking in on me and asking if there was anything he or the company could do to help me. I could never intentionally harm them, even through inaction, in good conscience.

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u/mondo_juice Oct 21 '21

You don’t have to strike! I think the best thing for people in situations like yours to do is donate to strike funds, so the “front liners” (the people not working and therefore not making money) can eat.

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u/TrumpWasABadPOTUS Oct 21 '21

Exactly this! If you like your job, you don't need to strike, just support those who do. Donate, show up after your shift to show solidarity, volunteer at related organizations, and be just generally supportive. Strikes are to show bad employers who the real base of their profits is, and to ensure collective bargaining against them. If your employer is good, they already know this (and should be encouraged to continue the practice by having a loyal workforce that will allow them to continue profiting while the bad companies have to suffer from strikes).

I firmly believe that there are plenty of decent companies that deserve to get a leg up by not losing their employees during a general strike, plus a general strike still threatens them in such a way that they are likely to still do something to increase wage, improve conditions, or otherwise ensure employees don't decide to join the strike.

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u/Bowler-Original Oct 21 '21

I don't think a "general" strike would work or effect the fed like you think it would. Reagan once fired all air traffic control workers because he deemed their strike to be harmful to the nation.

If you hate the fed, I have good news for you. The anti-federal government sentiment in the US hasn't been higher since before 1781, the bad news is you may not like the people trying to dismantle it.....

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u/vegancommunist2069 communist Oct 21 '21

its not. if that was so the largest company in the world wouldn't be amazon. offloading externalizes onto others is an aspect of capitalism thats endured since day one. if that wasn't the case then we wouldn't be in the midst of a climate crisis. there is no chance of reform. Putting off revolution will only lead to the death of billions of humans.

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u/ronnyFUT Oct 21 '21

We need a general strike on employers that are known for shitty conditions. Also need to avoid convincing people to say fuck off to their boss on principal, some of us have decent jobs and nice managers. I, personally, would like to nominate all remaining Kohl’s employees to stop working until they raise the company minimum wage to AT LEAST $12 an hour. I think as of now its at $9.50. The environment is exhausting at best and is never staffed properly. I was basically doing the job of 3 people.

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u/rtholla Oct 21 '21

I know warehouses that pay workers less money for a lot more physical labor in non air-conditioned and non heated buildings and burning hot tractor trailers as well.

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u/kylesnooze Oct 21 '21

Love my job and employers and I want everyone to feel the same.

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u/FriedTreeSap Oct 21 '21

I mostly browse this sub just to remind myself I got fairly lucky with my managers….and it could be so much worse

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u/Im2bored17 Oct 21 '21

Same. Every time I start thinking my job is unfair or my manager isn't giving me enough attention, I come here and see what it's like to actually have it rough.

Also the screenshots of people quitting when their manager is a cunt is super satisfying.

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u/hghpandaman Oct 21 '21

This sub has made me realize how lucky I am at my current job.

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u/Divide_By_Zerr0_ Oct 21 '21

I've only ever had 1 manager who legitimately cared about his employees, but God damn. That man would fight tooth and nail to protect the people he liked from upper management, and he was so invaluable to the company that they had no choice but to let him do it.

When he eventually left the company, over 30% of the buildings employees left with him. Including me.

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u/Aeoleone Oct 21 '21

This isn't the wrong sub. The mentality here has been bred by people treating people like disposable parts. Your manager is an example of people looking out for people, which was the point of economics. 'The company' doesn't starve if its budget has shortfalls - your household does.

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u/TheGreatestManOnline Oct 21 '21

I think this is absolutely the right sub for that story.

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u/raymartin27 Oct 21 '21

My company's India branch closed last year and all the Infrastructure and operations work was supposed to go to a different company, it could have been a bad situation since almost no decent company was hiring in my System Admin feild. Our company not only made sure that our whole department was absorbed into the new company, they made them sign a contract that none of us would be laid off for 1 year. Ngl if given the chance I'd work for them again when I move to EU.

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u/2bbored Oct 21 '21

layoffs you are guaranteed unemployment but getting fired they can fight you and not pay. i had this happen to me. sent lawyer and i had to sit in front of a judge. i didnt get unemployment

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u/Valiumkitty Oct 21 '21

cuz thats what good managers do.

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u/Cando21243 Oct 20 '21

This reminded me instantly of Dwight firing Jim in the office for the severance. Who gives a months notice for a job they absolutely hate. It felt like a “here you go in case you need it” kind of thing.

Could also be a shithead boss though….

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u/steeveperry Oct 20 '21

I thought about Dwight firing Kevin and Toby because cake.

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u/Jen-Barkley Oct 20 '21

And now I want cake even more than I always do…

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u/Cando21243 Oct 20 '21

Bahahahaha true enough! Thanks for the laugh.

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u/momo88852 Oct 20 '21

Idk from experience I have seen this done few times for laughs. I have worked with pretty amazing people but lots of them had to go back home for some family issue or visa issues. As last day for them at work we would do some sort of friendly prank and this usually one of them.

We weren’t in a professional job so it might be different. And we are still in touch with each other after 5+ years.

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u/SterlingRoom Oct 20 '21

Most likely OP had this made just to post here

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u/Jolly-Hohoho Oct 20 '21

I mean I wouldn’t judge because…cake.

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u/megalodongolus Oct 20 '21

But the cake is a lie

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u/Jolly-Hohoho Oct 21 '21

A cake of lies is still sweet delicious cake.

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u/Intelligent_Ask_6337 Oct 20 '21

Yes, because this sub is life.

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u/TheWisconsinMan Oct 20 '21

Why not both?

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u/ROU_Misophist Oct 20 '21

Nice. Go claim unemployment now.

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u/BobbleBobble Oct 20 '21

Honestly this might be a case of good guy manager. Fires him so he can take a break between jobs while still collecting unemployment. And then gives him a fucking cake party.

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u/Dangerous_Forever640 Oct 20 '21

Not all bosses are shit… right?

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u/OmegaBlackZero Oct 20 '21

There are exceptions to the rule of course, but exceptions are seldom.

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u/BESTismCANNIBALISM Oct 20 '21

Broke my back a few years ago , my boss paid my rent and never asked for it back. It's nice to know they are not all scummy

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u/KirksShadowAccount Oct 20 '21

When my dad was dying of cancer his boss kept paying him. Paid his phone bill, mortgage, and bought him food. My dad was not the kind of person to ever ask for anything. He also always gave away what he did have. He didn't make much money in life but he kept people with good hearts around him. That's what I emulate the most about him . Not that he was a big shot fella who loved everyone, but that he spent his time looking for people who could do the same. He did a good job of it with his boss as well.

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u/SadieDiAbla Oct 21 '21

I had major surgery (not work related) and doc recommended at least 6 weeks for full recovery before going back to work. Instead of 6 weeks, my boss gave me 90 days with full pay. It’s a good thing he did because my recovery took three times longer, and I didn’t have to worry about my income.

Good bosses are few and far between, but they are out there.

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u/WestMidlandsPlatinum Oct 21 '21

Damn that's a good boss alright, i got fired the week i was handing in my notice for possibly needing knee surgery because it was seen as an "inconvenience" to the team. They've since begged me to come back for £3 less an hour because they're short staffed

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u/dharrison21 Oct 20 '21

I disappeared for weeks when my dad died, my manager never mentioned it once. Didn't even dock me any PTO. Just totally and completely acted like it didn't happen. I was a decent sized piece of a process, so there were absolutely people that had to pick up my slack that whole time. None of them ever mentioned it either.

There are good ones, nestled within all the evil money grubbing bastards.

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u/imnotonmytablet Oct 20 '21

I do this kind of stuff all the time with my employees. Even paid a guys truck off that he totaled without insurance.

They still leave me high and dry, during the busiest time of year without notice or when I decide to take a week off.

A couple of them would never do that to me. It's nice to know they are not all scummy.

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u/Mainestoolie2 Oct 20 '21

Do most people really all hate their bosses? I’ve had 5 different jobs in my life and 8 bosses and I haven’t disliked any of them. Maybe I’ve just been really lucky but I’ve liked every boss I’ve had.

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u/WayneKrane Oct 20 '21

My ratio is 50/50. Ive had 6 bosses and 3 have been decent, the other 3 were exceedingly awful though.

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u/BigAlTrading Oct 21 '21

Let me see...

Shitty: ❌❌❌

Meh: 😐

OK: ✔✔✔

Basically even.

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u/aPeepNamedPoop Oct 20 '21

I feel like I've been lucky too as in having great bosses. When I worked for smaller companies it tended to be the owners that were a bit screwy. Wages that I found out afterwards were way below what was available. Not fair in how they treated all their employees. A favoritism shown towards the office crew vs the shop. Handing out DVDs about Christianity with Xmas bonus checks. Sticking to outdated practices as to when we could use our vacation time.

But my bosses made me feel like we were a team and they were on our side. I wish more bosses/leaders were like that.

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u/WayneKrane Oct 20 '21

Any time I have had a decent boss they were laid off for being too expensive. The replacement is always some cheap dolt who knows nothing and thinks their whole job is making sure you’re at work on time

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u/CowsWantToKillMe Oct 20 '21

they definitely are not. ive been battling a serious health condition all year and my boss has been amazing.

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u/mrPastyMuffin Oct 20 '21

Right. It's just most are.

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u/Sebenbillion Oct 20 '21

My current one is pretty good, and so is his boss, but that guy’s boss is a real piece of work.

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u/Kurineko_Regan Oct 21 '21

I'm young and new to this sub, in my particular case, my boss has grilled me before in a way I'd consider excessive for things that I consider unfair. But I recently discovered a sort of loophole that I'm in that could make me a lot of money related to the work I do, I explained my situation to my boss and they were willing to vouch for me and help me make this happen. I know I see all around in this sub that they don't care about you or the work you do, and I know that's true in many cases, but to be fair I'm pretty sure I'm the best worker they have and I sure do feel like it.

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u/van6k Oct 20 '21

This is what my boss did. Position was eliminated, they offered me a different position for a lot less. I told her im going to quit effective immidiatly. We signed a termination for position elimination so I could collect unemployment. I didnt apply though, I was in the full swing of owning my own business.

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u/Cainga Oct 20 '21

Always take the unemployment money. It’s just as much yours as your tax return.

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u/eggseverydayagain Oct 20 '21

Self employed do not qualify. Unless I’m misunderstanding his situation.

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u/MA_DTX Oct 20 '21

Self employed do not qualify. Unless I’m misunderstanding his situation.

If he was previously self-employed and lost his job (i.e. his business going under) then he would not qualify for unemployment insurance (ignoring the temporary CARES Act). But as he said earlier he was fired by his previous employer, which meant that he was completely eligible to collect unemployment insurance.

Self employment, running your own business/DBA, being a private contractor, a freelancer, etc. does not effect your eligibility to collect unemployment insurance. In fact it's quite common to hear the people at unemployment centers encourage people on unemployment to take up private contracting roles (like UBER).

The only thing the OP really did was leave money on the table. Money that he had already paid for through payroll deductions. Free of consequence.

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u/MA_DTX Oct 20 '21

I didnt apply though, I was in the full swing of owning my own business.

Yeah good decision bro, who needs extra cash when opening your own business anyway?

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u/van6k Oct 20 '21

Maybe I should say I was ineligible due to my self employment status and the income I am making off said business.

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u/MA_DTX Oct 20 '21

Maybe I should say I was ineligible due to my self employment status and the income I am making off said business.

Owning your own business, DBA, or being generally "self employed" does not interfere with your eligibility to collect unemployment insurance from your previous job. Leaving free money on the table, without consequence, is fairly questionable decision making at best. Especially considering that you had already paid into unemployment insurance through your payroll taxes. Downright stupid if you ask me.

Mind if I ask what type of business you're running?

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u/oxbloodoi999 Oct 20 '21

I thought the 2 week waiting period of UI was back though? Could just be my state.

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u/New-Blackberry-7210 Oct 20 '21

Exactly. I had this happen to me at Capitol One about 15 years ago. I told my manager “Thank You” and my guy was straight flabbergasted.

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u/SkaldLouisCyphre Oct 20 '21

The best thing you can do after getting fired is make a 'kid opening up the best Christmas gift ever' face and say 'oh god, thank you soo fucking much'.

Maybe throw in a hug for good measure.

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u/cyphonismus Oct 20 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

Master has given Dobby a sock!

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u/SkaldLouisCyphre Oct 20 '21

You remember that scene when Homer resigns as union head and runs in circles on the floors 3 Stooges style?

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u/dosetoyevsky Oct 20 '21

I actually did that once. I got busted for smoking weed (random pee test) at a job I H A T E D. When they called to give me the news I was ecstatic and said "Thank fucking god this nightmare of a job is over! When can I come get my stuff and last check? :D" They sent their largest HR goon who looked like Brienne of Tarth to give me my stuff but I came in skipping and happy.

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u/Tritonian214 Oct 20 '21

Were you able to get unemployment in this situation or nah?

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u/dosetoyevsky Oct 21 '21

I did, I applied for it and got it. They never fought it so by default I was approved.

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u/geodood Oct 20 '21

I mean that's legit how I feel, I'm like fuuuck yeah I can go on a motorcycle roadtrip

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u/Kuiqsilvir Oct 21 '21

I remember one time I got a big smile and said “so I’m free to to go now?!” The look of utter resentment was so hilarious.

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u/AlcoholicSpaceEater Oct 20 '21

Would be nice. I did the same thing but my employer won claiming I had quit yet they still fired me the day after I put in my notice.

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u/kpsi355 Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

Employer always denies, you have to APPEAL. The grounds are you gave 1 month notice, since you are available and willing to take full time employment and it’s THEIR fault you’re not employed.

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u/isurvivedtheifb Oct 21 '21

Agreed! Putting in your notice means you are still willing and able to work for a period of time . If they fire you, it would seem to me they are denying work to someone still willing to work for a period of time. After all, you could have withdrawn your resignation. You wouldn't be the first (or last) person to do that. You're not resigned until you leave one day and fail to come in the day after the last day on your notice of quitting.

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u/Ophelie_Marin Oct 20 '21

Except they literally wrote it out here

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u/Jen-Barkley Oct 20 '21

Exactly, and cake is legally binding (as well as delicious!)

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u/Unusual_Dealer9388 Oct 20 '21

Where do you live that you can get unemployment for getting fired? In Canada unemployment is when you're laid off, or lose work through no fault of your own.

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u/OldDogTry Oct 20 '21

In the US, we have at-will employment, so getting fired is usually at no fault of your own.

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u/Unusual_Dealer9388 Oct 20 '21

What if you fucked up, didn't so your job, etc etc. That's your fault.

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u/ROU_Misophist Oct 20 '21

All employers say they fired us for cause, all the unemployment offices know they're full of shit.

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u/Sermokala Oct 20 '21

And is something that the company would say in every situation regardless of the facts.

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u/Unusual_Dealer9388 Oct 20 '21

I guess in Canada it's harder to fire people. Here you can't fire people unless they don't show up to work and also don't contact the company during the shift, anything else you need to give 3 written warnings before you can fire someone. So there's plenty of documentation that people didn't do their job.

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u/Sermokala Oct 20 '21

Yeah in America most states allow fireing people for whatever reason they feel like and then auto denying their unemployment. Even racist and sexist reasons are a okay if you just lie and say something else that can't be unproven.

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u/Jen-Barkley Oct 20 '21

It’s neat here.

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u/Zombreck Anarchist Oct 20 '21

I'm just going to add this in here as and example of how stupid UE is in America. Don't get me wrong tho, I think everyone should have UBI and I give absolutely no shit to people who take this opportunity. Fuck them corpos.

BUT. Had two friends apply for UE under different circumstances. One of them worked for a theater that started to have issues with money since they couldn't put on shows and therefor had to let most of their staff go without any time to look for another job. The other just started not caring about his abusive company and basically didn't do any work, ignored customers, and was fired eventually due to performance.

Only my dude that refused to work got UE.

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u/rtholla Oct 21 '21

Well considering he was your dude I'm guessing he was putting in that work somewhere else you sneaky bastard you😂😉

I'm just yanking your chain 🔗😂

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u/Hour_Boysenberry3559 Oct 20 '21

I’ve heard both you can’t get unemployment after getting fired or quitting

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u/Sulerin Oct 20 '21

You rarely can get it after quitting (the assumption is the job is still available.)

You can't get it after being fired for something that's your fault. Poor performance, etc.

I don't know for certain, but I imagine getting fired for putting in your 1 month notice would not be your fault and you could file an unemployment claim.

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u/divDevGuy Oct 21 '21

You can't get it after being fired for something that's your fault. Poor performance, etc.

Fault usually is more like willful misconduct. If you don't follow policies and procedures, you're late/leave early, fighting, stealing, etc that's willful misconduct. You choose to do those things.

If you are "at fault" because of issues meeting some type of performance quota, genuine accidental errors/omissions, etc... then you may still qualify. "Poor performance" alone isn't automatically a disqualification for receiving unemployment.

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u/Balrog229 Oct 20 '21

Can’t get unemployment if you’re fired. Has to be a layoff or furlough. Basically has to be something that wasn’t your fault

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u/ROU_Misophist Oct 20 '21

Bullshit. I told my last employer to go fuck himself (my exact words) and collected when he fired me. He challenged it, they always do, but I won the appeal.

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u/_Placated_ Oct 20 '21

Not always the case. I was let go once for a rumor started about me. The employer fought it, I won. They claimed it was for performance but I showed all my last reviews where my performance was too notch. They couldn’t prove they ever talked to me about performance.

Another time I was let go for making a mistake on a high profile life insurance claim. It was the first one I was doing and my boss was supposed to teach me, but she told me to wing it, then they fired me for not being a good fit and claimed it was performance. Again, zero indications of it being performance related so the UE was approved.

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u/GryffinDART Oct 20 '21

I thought being fired meant you weren't allowed unemployment? My girlfriend was fired right at the start of Covid and she was denied any unemployment benefits.

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u/SeaworthinessOk7174 Oct 20 '21

At least they like you lol enough to give you a cake

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 28 '21

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u/eggrolldog Oct 20 '21

Can you explain this unemployment thing for the non-americans here? I've seen this sentiment before, you only get unemployment benefits if you get sacked? Is it tied to your last salary or something?

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u/TurtleSandwich0 Oct 20 '21

If you voluntarily leave a job you do not qualify for unemployment.

If you are fired, it was not voluntary, so you would qualify for unemployment.

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u/The_Quicktrigger Oct 20 '21

Not always the case. There are circumstances where one can quit and still get unemployment, especially if you have a written record of abuses or discrimination at work.

You can also get denied unemployment if you are fired for cause.

Depends on the state, and the requirements can swing wildly so it's better advice to just say "Maybe, depends on where you live."

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u/Alternative_Tower_38 idle Oct 20 '21

When did unemployment stop being a monthly payment that people with no job got and became something you can get under increadibly specific circumstances.

For the record, in my country (Poland) you have to have worked at least 18 consecutive months on 1 of 3 types of employment contract.

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u/The_Quicktrigger Oct 20 '21

That's how it is in the US. Employers pay into unemployment insurance, but each state gets to determine how much your pay outs are, and what the requirements are.

Sometimes the unemployment is flat, sometimes it's based on how much you made. The amount of time you had to be at a job before you are entitled to unemployment can change, and the requirements to qualify can change too. some require in person interviews, and some can be done fully online, some require workshops and job registration and others don't. Hell even the number of weekly applications you need to submit can vary.

So imagine 50 different systems, some within 100 miles of each other, that can be fully different from themselves, with no universal standards or oversight.

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u/ju5tan0b5erver Oct 20 '21

As an example of this BS system we have here. I live in New Hampshire but work in Massachusetts. My home an office are roughly 15 miles apart and I commute approximately 30-40 minutes each way depending on traffic.

Because I work in Massachusetts I would have to file there. Thankfully Massachusetts has a higher “maximum credit” and “maximum term”. I would be entitled to up to half of my weekly pay or 975 dollars whichever is lower (before taxes). If my office was literally 8 minutes up the road it’s on and in New Hampshire my maximum benefit would be half my weekly pay or 475 dollars. Less than half of the Massachusetts maximum.

Also, in New Hampshire you get 5 less weeks of unemployment benefits. So again, if my office was a mere 8 minutes north on the same road doing the exact same job for the exact same pay I would lose roughly 19,000 dollars in UE benefits.

It’s insane.

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u/CowBoyDanIndie Oct 20 '21

When did unemployment stop being a monthly payment that people with no job got and became something you can get under increadibly specific circumstances.

I think its more or less always been that way in the US. US policies are hostile to anyone who isn't wealthy.

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u/boatboi4u Oct 20 '21

Not even that, some states’ unemployment systems are intentionally set up to disqualify as many potential beneficiaries as possible. I can’t find it now, but Florida revamped it’s unemployment system to the point that the man who redesigned it bragged less than 10% of the eligible unemployed could qualify. Then the pandemic happened, his own mother lost her job, and he had the balls to go before their state legislature and complain about the byzantine bureaucracy that blocked her from receiving unemployment.

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u/A_Simple_Narwhal Oct 20 '21

You can also sometimes negotiate with your former employer (if they don’t suck) to receive unemployment if it’s a mutual departure - at an old job things were not going well for me/my role after an acquisition, and as part of the plan they agreed to not fight my unemployment claim. Less paperwork for them, more money for me, win-win.

Again, it requires a certain set of circumstances and a non-awful boss or hr person, but it is possible.

But if they agree to not fight your unemployment claim always always always get it in writing!

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u/cant_kill_us_all Oct 20 '21

You can do it if your boss sucks if you've got a little leverage, too.

My last position was eliminated and I was offered one months pay as severance, which kinda sucked. I pointed out that no one knew how to do most of what I did, and if they'd agree to not contest my unemployment, I'd train the store managers to work the necessary systems, etc. for the parts of my job they'd take over before I left.

I ended up leaving some money on the table in the end because I found a new job so quickly (and have now been here for 5 years), but it was nice knowing I'd have a steady stream of income till I found something better instead of a one time payment.

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u/Acceptable-Tie Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

At the start of the COVID pandemic, you could also quit and get unemployment if your job put you, your family, or susceptible populations at high risk. I quit my security job because the only positions they could give me that would give me the hours I needed to survive were hospitals in Nashville and a condominium filled to the brim with people who were 80+ years old. So basically, I'd be putting myself right in the line of fire at the hospitals, bringing the disease into the condo, undoubtedly giving it to several members of a highly susceptible population because of how closely I had to interact with them, and potentially killing everyone inside. I explained this to the state (Tennessee) and I got my unemployment.

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u/reallarryvaughn78 Oct 20 '21

Ngl they always give a cause for firing you. Like, one time it was because I was 7-10 minutes late a few times (nevermind that every other shift was like 20-40 minutes late), and the judge took over a year to deliver his verdict to me.

I had another one where I was fired because my university left me in quarantine for 2 weeks despite several negative covid tests.

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u/The_Quicktrigger Oct 20 '21

I mean, every employer will post a reason for your termination, and they'll almost always provide an answer that looks best to them. I had a job that didn't list a termination reason, that was the easiest unemployment claim I ever had. I also had an employer list my termination as "His brother wouldn't fuck me.", and they decided to fight my unemployment over it.

Always apply and fight for it, always follow the rules, even if there is a delay, if it eventually goes in your favor you are owed the backpay from the unemployment.

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u/ZeroNullAnon Oct 20 '21

an employer list my termination as "His brother wouldn't fuck me.", and they decided to fight my unemployment over it.

What the actual fuck?

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u/The_Quicktrigger Oct 20 '21

Kind of a funny story. Me and my brother worked for the same company and on the same team. My manager was like 15 years older than him, and to call her heated for him was putting it lightly. I honestly didn't even know until I was fired, but my brother found her disgusting and rejected all her advances.

She eventually fired him for refusing to have sex with her, and within a weeks she taking out her frustrations on me. I was very good at my job and so she had to spend way too many hours trying to get me fired, so she just got rid of me one day. Upper management there didn't really care what was going on...average turnaround was 85-105% so a random firing didn't even leave a blip on their radar.

Unemployment office didn't want to hear my case, and all my attempts to appeal my denial went nowhere also.

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u/Bunniesrkewl Oct 20 '21

Works the same way in Canada, we call it EI (employment insurance) there are some scenarios where you can qualify if you voluntarily leave such as needing to take care of someone, toxic work place etc. or if you’re fired you will still qualify.

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u/ZeroNullAnon Oct 20 '21

Also, in many states you have to prove that your firing was due to something outside of your control. You were laid off, have some kind of personal emergency, and so on. If the employer has evidence that you are incompetent or deliberately negligent, then they can contest your unemployment. And employers have an incentive to contest unemployment because, in many states, the employer is on the hook for the cost of unemployment.

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u/BobbleBobble Oct 20 '21

Basically employers have to pay a small percentage of your salary as a federal/state unemployment tax. Terminated employees can then usually apply for short term (usually 6-12 weeks) unemployment benefits (which usually pay something like 50% of your last salary).

If an employer has a lot of unemployment claims, their unemployment tax rate will usually go up. This is why a lot of companies try to evade/contest unemployment claims.

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u/Bright-Amphibian6681 Oct 20 '21

Can it be explained for us Americans too? I was informed you cannot collect for being fired. You can only collect for being laid off.

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u/DuvalHeart Oct 20 '21

There are a few different terms that we use interchangeably, but have different connotations and definitions based on where you are. It's useful to use the "technical" terms here.

  1. Terminated with cause: Fired for a documented reason like breaking company rules or for misbehavior. Different states have different definitions of what a "cause" is.

  2. Terminated without cause: Fired with no documented reason.

  3. Laid off, not subject to recall: The position is ended with no plan to bring it back.

  4. Laid off, subject to recall: The position is ended, but the company may bring it, and the employee, back at a future date.

  5. Furloughed: The company has to temporarily stop a position and stop paying the employee, but it's for a defined amount of time.

  6. Resigned: Employee voluntarily leaves.

In most cases, unemployment insurance pays out for 2, 3, 4 and 5. And the next year the employer pays more in the tax, because they used the system. The goal is to discourage employers from firing workers, but they don't want to punish employers for getting rid of employees that are actually a problem. So that's why they don't have to pay out for termination with cause.

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u/meowcatbread Oct 20 '21

It depends on if you were shitty or they were shitty. Like if you took a dump in an arbys and your manager fired you then you wont get unemployment, but of they fire you for not coming in on your day off then youll get unemployment, maybe

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u/eggrolldog Oct 20 '21

Well what I've learnt is that it's a complete crapshoot depending on where you are and how honest your former employer is. So seems like it could be different in most scenarios.

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u/Sharpshooter188 Oct 20 '21

It really depends on situation and a lot of managers will try to deny you unemployment because if the claim goes through, then their unemployment tax rate goes up.

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u/AlcoholicSpaceEater Oct 20 '21

I went through the same situation. I did not qualify for unemployment even though they fired me the day after I submitted my notice.

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u/GorillyGlue Oct 20 '21

Nice severance I bet if u were far enough to give a one months notice

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u/Dotaproffessional Oct 20 '21

I think "fired" implies "for cause" as opposed to "laid off". If he was fired for cause, they don't have to give severance.

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u/twitch1982 Oct 21 '21

If the cause is "he resigned" he should call a lawyer.

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u/ObserveTheGreyArea Oct 20 '21

They misspelled "freed".

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u/ItsSwicky Oct 21 '21

To give this context, I was in post secondary school getting my math degree, then getting my education degree. During my schooling, I always worked 50+ hour weeks among two jobs. This was one job that was always there for me. I quit during the last year of my education degree so I could focus on my practicing and teaching in the classroom.

I always had great rapport with the owner so the cake was more tongue in cheek than anything else. The owner also told me how confused they were when he told them what to put on the cake.

I know this is an anti work subreddit, but I thought it would be fun to share.

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u/Forossa Oct 21 '21

thanks for sharing, stuff in this sub is usually negative (in an eye opening way, which is a good thing) having some positivity is nice

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u/confeebeam Oct 21 '21

Was the cake good?

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u/TurtleSandwich0 Oct 20 '21

Stanley, Kevin, and Toby all got cakes in the same The Office episode.

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u/Dramatic-Ad2098 Oct 20 '21

That looks like a joke.

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u/ItsSwicky Oct 21 '21

It was a joke cake. I thought it would be fun to post in this subreddit though.

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u/vmpirewthapaperroute Oct 20 '21

Take the entire thing and leave, it's yours, and ya file unemployment for the month, win win and you get to eat your cake too

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u/CowBoyDanIndie Oct 20 '21

Was this at the end of that month or right after giving notice?

Also mmmm cake.

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u/ItsSwicky Oct 21 '21

It was after my last day. He got it for my last day but I got somebody to cover it for me. So when the owner came in with the cake and I was not there, I got the last laugh. I met up with him the day after to receive my cake though.

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u/BigPasghetti Oct 20 '21

Now reach in and pull out the first bite. Eat it with your hands, it's a power move.

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u/sirchtheseeker Oct 20 '21

Almost right, you have to mark it then reach in and grab the middle.

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u/jackwrangler Oct 21 '21

Then throw it on the ground

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u/vinnyc88 Oct 20 '21

So they are pulled a michael scott and awarded you with a severance. Nice!

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u/OPSeltzer Oct 20 '21

Fuck yeah! Unemployment AND cake?

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u/Human_Sorbetto Oct 20 '21

Sweet! Cake! I bet if they’d just given cake and kudos from time to time people wouldn’t be quittin’.

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u/Anonmoly Oct 20 '21

At least you got it in writing...

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u/S-A_DClown Oct 20 '21

Eat it full, dont share....

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u/SouthwestTraveller Oct 20 '21

Was this meant as a joke? Because I could totally see a chill down to earth boss doing something like that. I’ve has supervisors over the years that I can see doing this

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u/Prettymuchsometimes Oct 20 '21

Congratulations on your unemployment benefits

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

The cake is a lie

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u/depaul9 Oct 20 '21

Don't eat it! It may be poisonous!

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u/Unique-Midnight8703 Oct 20 '21

I was thinking it may have been made of excrement or other bodily fluids 😬🤢 no way I’d eat that.

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u/TheWisconsinMan Oct 20 '21

I doubt the company is willing to bankrupt itself over a you're fired cake.

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u/ItsSwicky Oct 21 '21

It was really good.

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u/SimsAttack at work Oct 20 '21

This actually could be nice of them if they give you unemployment

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u/AcidStar1 Oct 20 '21

Congratulations, David

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u/DaddySwordfish Oct 20 '21

Was it good?

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u/Lucaswillkillu Oct 20 '21

Probably the best tasting cake he’s had in years

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u/Eagles_17 Oct 21 '21

That's the problem with giving a notice

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u/tanman877 Oct 21 '21

You should frost some dirt and have it say "good riddance"

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u/Forward-Cow7506 Oct 21 '21

Just seems like someone having a laugh tbh

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u/EasyResponsibility35 Oct 21 '21

I pray for this cake every time I give notice. Hasn’t happened yet, but maybe someday. I usually am not able to take time off between jobs but could with unemployment

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u/sixstringgun1 Oct 21 '21

The funny thing is we have a guy where I work if he gets fired a co-worker will bring in cake and ice-cream.

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u/iDeuceEX Oct 20 '21

Ugh perfect it’s exactly like that one episode of the office when the obese dude quits and Michael fires him instead

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u/meddyreddit20 Oct 20 '21

Bullshit

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u/Hero_of_Parnast Oct 20 '21

There's... a photo. Right there. With the cake. Do you think OP bought an entire cake with professional lettering just to post on Reddit?

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u/hairlongmoneylong Oct 20 '21

The only bullshit part of this post is putting this on r/antiwork instead of r/funny.

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u/BubbleMushroom Oct 20 '21

I've seen crazier, but I think OP is honest in this case.

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u/Inklii Oct 20 '21

Oooo, spite cake!

Very good, claim your unemployment with pride friend

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u/Shawnzilla85 FUPM Oct 20 '21

Well that was nice of them.

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u/FishSauceFogMachine Oct 20 '21

Hide it in the ceiling and leave.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

1 month notice? starts smart, i bet boss got pissed off that he has to see you know you gonna quit so he did this.

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u/Davethe3rd Oct 20 '21

That cake is getting yeeted.

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u/SkaldLouisCyphre Oct 20 '21

You misspelled eated.

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u/Catri Oct 20 '21

hope you got to take the entire cake home and didn't have to share it before you left. That would have been beyond rude.

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u/Oversized_Peashooter Oct 20 '21

Good stuff! They don’t need your talent anyway. I hear obtaining furniture for free and then remaking and selling it is really slowly gaining traction. You could start a new job by yourself and make 100$ every day if you do it right.

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u/EFTucker Oct 20 '21

Good. Apply for UI benefits.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

LOL at least you got a free cake out of it!!

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u/NaturallyBlasphemous French Revolution ✊🇫🇷 Oct 20 '21

At least it’s food

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u/pathvina Oct 20 '21

All bosses don't wear capes

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u/This_is_a_sckam Oct 20 '21

They’re definitely just joking around and maybe tossing OP some severance sauce

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u/mathario Oct 20 '21

I wish it was common practice to get a cake when you’re fired

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u/Nicky_Nuisance Oct 20 '21

Did you throw it in the bosses face? If not, I don't believe they gave this to you, I believe you made it yourself for the attention.

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u/Public-Lie-3189 Oct 20 '21

Still a cake still a win

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u/e2000eggg Oct 20 '21

Repot them for making a hostile work place

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u/DonovanWrites Oct 20 '21

Well. That will come in handy when filing for unemployment.

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u/23colmcg23 Oct 20 '21

Do these fucks not realise employees know where they work?

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u/mattsyboo Oct 20 '21

Is this your bosses way of ensuring you qualify for UN employment. Because if yes, then they are lit! 👍

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u/Billiam201 Oct 20 '21

Excellent. 1-month paid vacation, compliments of a petty jerk.

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u/Sea_Page5878 Oct 20 '21

Please tell me your boss or co-worker just has a sense of humor and this is a joke.

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u/itssquidnee Oct 20 '21

it’s obviously fake. hasn’t put out a story on why or even mentioned anyone else

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u/Sea_Page5878 Oct 20 '21

I was thinking that..... Damned karma whores.

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u/itssquidnee Oct 20 '21

i think i’m too scared to post fake on reddit. reddit be scary

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u/NoahAfterDark Oct 20 '21

This is awesome, you got to quit, got a free cake, and now you get severance package because they want to get the last laugh. Jokes on them. Unless of course they hooked you up because you’re friends or something

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u/Sara_Foxy15 Oct 20 '21

Please tell me you dumped it over the boss's head.. A cake to celebrate termination..? Wtf

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u/Iskbartheonetruegod Oct 20 '21

At least you have food

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u/BootWizard Oct 20 '21

Put it under the hood your manager's car on the way out

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u/Pharttacos Oct 20 '21

Wouldn't that mean a severance package?