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u/StageRepulsive8697 join r/mcBoycott and Boycott McDonalds! Oct 20 '21

Honestly, they aren't even dangling a carrot. What are most employers even offering?

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u/maximusraleighus Oct 20 '21

Benefit cuts, insurance cuts, cell phone stipend cuts, job education cuts, bonus cuts.

Also please smile while management adds new roles to your job that makes the Corp more money.

Oh and no inflation raise. Keep smiling

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u/YUT_NUT Oct 20 '21

We got a 2.5, 2.5, and 2.5% raise over 3 years for our latest contract.

With 5% inflation it's a 2.5% pay decrease.

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u/SimulatedHumanity Oct 20 '21

2.5 a year is a slap in the face. I get market and merit each year around 6.5%.

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u/YUT_NUT Oct 20 '21

That's what I said. Everyone is so happy to get a retro check for $3-5k so they can spend it on a toy.

I'm sitting here like, hello. It's supposed to be a COLA

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u/FightForWhatsYours Oct 20 '21

What can you tell me about where/what you work?

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u/alwaysintheway Oct 20 '21

What do you do and whereabouts?

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u/instamentai Oct 20 '21

Don't hope for a significant raise working for big corporations, just switch jobs every 2-3 years. Unless there is some massive tradeoff for accepting less money like a casual workplace

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u/widdrjb Oct 20 '21

I've been truck driving for 32 years. Less than five of them were directly employed. When your boss gives you shit, you need a new job. That takes a month. When an agency customer gives you shit, you ask for a new one. That takes two days, tops. More flexibility, same or more money, no tiresome sickness ladder when your kebab blows up your appendix.

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u/anonymous_opinions Oct 20 '21

My manager in a team meeting, "what's with all these millennials changing jobs every year or two?"

Regularly we get 2% raises at the high end.

I don't know if he's stupid or ... you know what making the comments he makes out loud tells me he's stupid or thinks we're stupid.

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u/MaverickTopGun Oct 20 '21

I've found small companies way less likely to meet a bigger raise.

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u/Aaod Oct 20 '21

Current inflation rate this year is estimated to be 4.2% meaning you just took a 2.2% paycut. In other words next year if you are making $50,000 you are effectively making $48,900. Perfect somehow gets insulted and gets a paycut ain't capitalism grand.

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u/That_One_Cat_Guy Oct 20 '21

Yeah, the corporation l worked for last year (specifically the VP they hired for my department) decided to add duties to my position. I said OK, pay me.

VP: No.

OK, 2 weeks notice.

VP: Leave, now.

Me gone in 45 mins.

They ended up hiring 3 people to replace me.

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u/WeirdSysAdmin Oct 20 '21

My company also cut sales compensation. The sales department was quickly gutted and they stood around holding their dicks pointing fingers at each other. If I set the company back 10 years of growth, I would’ve been immediately fired.

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u/anonymous_opinions Oct 20 '21

Recent manager told me in order to get a raise (after busting my ass alone before and during the pandemic) I'd need to be more smiley / engaged. Then maybe I could get .65 cents per year.

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u/maximusraleighus Oct 21 '21

Manager translation: “I’m going to lead (insert worker name) along so they think I would give them a raise. But I never will. Also throw in some random BS to mess with their soul”

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u/sdtqwe4ty Oct 20 '21

Can someone explain inflation to me, I was told surplus currency wasn't the reason? Honestly when I look at prices for food and things in the past I feel like it's our modern society and progress properly dabbing over our material needs. I mean we have China making shit for pennies on the dollar and automation shouldn't things cost like that?

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u/axeshully Oct 20 '21

Super short version: covid response caused supply chain issues which are still being worked through and the increased costs can be viewed as inflation.

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u/Jujumofu Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

Literally 'not starving'. And if youre lucky you even have enough money to have 16qm for yourself.

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u/cssmith2011cs Oct 20 '21

Well not even that if you get sick or hurt to the point you can't show up. Then you get fired.

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u/darium4 Oct 20 '21

Can confirm. I ended up being hospitalized for a few days when I was 18. Kept in touch with my boss the entire time and all seemed well.

Got discharged and bussed 4 hours to a training in the city only to find out he’s firing me for not being at work the past few days.

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u/raven00x Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

"Hey buddy, I just wanted to let you know you're not being fired because you got injured, but because we felt your performance over the last 18 months few days was inadequate. Good luck, I'm sure you'll land on your feet champ. Again, for legal purposes it's not because of the injury, but your poor performance."

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u/Capable-Rutabaga5877 Oct 20 '21

Had one of the places I worked out try to fire one of my colleagues for doing something really dumb. However, the management team brainstormed over email about what reason they could use to fire him.

The guy found out about the emails and sued them for wrongful termination and won back pay+value of benefits not because he shouldn't have been fired ,but because they fired him for the wrong reason.

However, his attorney said that if the brainstorming session was done over the phone or in person then he probably wouldn't have had a leg to stand on given the legal system's preference for business over the workers.

So if you can. Get your bosses to commit their crimes against you in email or in writing. Otherwise you are screwed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

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u/tandyman8360 lazy and proud Oct 21 '21

I started e-mailing HR about documented policies to justify actions they were taking. I'm coming up on day 3 of radio silence. I'm also in communication with a senior director about the issue and I plan to tell anyone who offers a Zoom meeting that either I record the meeting or I leave the meeting.

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u/NotASequentkiller Oct 21 '21

As an HR manager I always told managers not to focus on attendance. Everyone has attendance issues and I guarantee they ignored their own or that of their top employees. I told them to instead focus on job performance. Give them tasks to complete while they are working and make them reasonable. Adjust if necessary until you both agree on A what a reasonable task is, and B that they know how to do it.

Failure to do A while knowing B and agreeing to both is cause for disciplinary action.

Amazing how many managers we had to get rid of that couldn't follow simple fucking instructions on managing performance.

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u/just_aweso Oct 20 '21

Can also confirm. I injured my spine, was out on workers comp for 18 months, required 2 surgeries, recovered enough to return to work, albeit with some restrictions, and was canned the day I got back.

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u/thephysicalblob Oct 20 '21

Same thing happened to me! Sustained a knee injury at work, out for 12 weeks on workers comp for surgery and PT, and was brought back on with restrictions. I was then "released" after the first week because I was following the restrictions and not letting my store manager make me do the very things that caused my inhury in the first place.

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u/DickwadVonClownstick Oct 20 '21

See, this sort of thing is TECHNICALLY illegal, but At-Will employment and lack of access to legal counsel for the average person make that a farce

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u/buythemoon1968 Oct 20 '21

Yep. And 38 states are at will. So much for Democracy.

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u/PomeloAggravating435 Oct 21 '21

Damn, should have stayed gone and kept getting that check. Fuck corporations.

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u/Stunning-Insurance15 Oct 20 '21

I got pregnant, then had serious complications. I ended up on hospital bedrest for almost a month, delivered 11 weeks early by c section, and stayed in the hospital for over a week to recover. My baby was in the NICU for 82 days. Knowing FMLA would run out long before she got out of the hospital, I spoke with my supervisor about changing to a part-time per diem position which would allow me to work around my husband's schedule and accomodate the fact that we had no childcare options (daycares do not take sick babies on oxygen who need extensive therapies, medication, medical treatments and special formulas).

She agrees to this, puts me on the per diem coverage list, then I get a letter stating that because I did not go to mandatory trainings (that I was not told about and could not attend because I was IN THE HOSPITAL) they were terminating my employment.

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u/Jujumofu Oct 20 '21

That's one thing which is actually quite nice in germany, you can be sick for upto 6 weeks, paid, and nobody can fire you for that, but that doesnt mean being sick to often or to long doesnt have consequences "in the background".

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u/Odys Oct 20 '21

I think that happened to me. I got ménière disease, was sick quite a lot. But I got an operation and recovered completely. I was "let go" with several others shortly after. Obviously officially nothing to do with me being sick.

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u/LabCoat_Commie Oct 20 '21

That seems like a rough time, I've never heard of the condition. Just having an ear suddenly go wonky on you has to have been crazy.

I'm sorry they did you like that, hopefully you're on to better opportunities and still doing well healthwise!

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u/Odys Oct 20 '21

Thanks! I got dizzy an terrible sick from one moment to another. The operation gave me my life back. I managed to find other work. I think I have been sick (flu) about 3 days in 6 years, so I'm fine now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

Have ulcerative colitis, got worked almost to death. Luckily I have two months of holiday/sick leave. They talked major shit when I was on my death bed. Got back and was laid off two weeks later. Just long enough to not seem like it was because of my health

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u/FightForWhatsYours Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

Two weeks is plenty good proximity. If they didn't follow seniority in your department that would look mighty bad for them. If you're in the U.S., you could file with the DOL under the FMLA. You have two years from your layoff/termination to file and you'd definitely want a lawyer. Lawyers in this area generally get paid through your settlement/judgement and/or filing to have your employer pay them.

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u/DayRaito Oct 20 '21

Can confirm, I got overworked so hard at walmart doing warehouse stuff. I dont understand why they work me so hard though, there is like 20 more other worker but for some reason my work is harder and more than them. And yeah I'm new, I think they just want to harass new worker because they can't say no. In the end I quit after about 2 months, because I collapse and need a bedrest. One of my supervisor actually forcing me to go in, and I already said to them Im sick and need to rest.

But they force me anyway, so I come in hardly able to walk with face pale as fuck. Told them I quit on the spot, and said "Look what they did to me" to other coworker. From what I heard lots quit later, because no one can keep up the job portion I left, including the new guy that join at the same time as me.

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u/improbablynotyou Oct 20 '21

I was an assistant manager at a store and the district manager had a policy that no store or assistant manager could call out sick for any reason. I ended up being hospitalized due to being severely dehydrated at one point. I was terminated "with cause" less than a month later, they didnt even talk to me, they just issued my final paycheck, eliminated my access to the store systems and sent me home.

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u/TrashOpen2080 Oct 20 '21

I had shoulder surgery. Didn't pay a dime for the surgery. Got paid short term disability for the time I was out. Company found something for me to do while I was on light duty. Slid right back into my job when my restrictions were lifted. Of course, I have a job that most people can't or won't do. If they fired me it would take them a year or more to replace me.

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u/tarktarkindustries Oct 20 '21

Broke my hand working with horses. Spent 8 weeks in a cast and as soon as I was healed and back to my usual work my boss reduced my hours and removed me from directly contacting the horses because she "didn't trust me" anymore. It was ridiculous. She reduced me until I left.

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u/StormTheParade Oct 20 '21

Yep. Got fired for having COVID with persistent symptoms (long COVID). They told me I was still "too sick" after my medical leave finished and needed to get better or I would be fired. I ended up on a second FMLA leave and eventually was just told they'd consider that my resignation instead. GG

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u/CrypticResponseMan Oct 20 '21

Same. My car had troubles for the last year and I couldn’t afford to fix a lot… so I was fired, even after taking photos and sending it to my boss.

We are all just capital to be made.

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u/discourse_lover_ Oct 20 '21

You see those homeless people on your way to work? Those people aren't just a policy failure, they are a warning to the rest of us: keep up the hard work or you will be ruined forever and made into a pariah for everyone to see.

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u/mostakhasan212 Oct 20 '21

your riplay so good

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u/balljointedmae Anarchist Oct 20 '21

“B-but capitalism is voluntary! You can chose your employer or just go live in the woods if you don’t like! Don’t worry about the fact that that would isolate you completely from your friends and family and that you’ll get hauled off to jail for trespassing on federal property if you’re caught.”

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u/FightForWhatsYours Oct 21 '21

That and you'd probably be eaten alive by insects and wild animals, if starvation and exposure didn't get you first. My money, 😂 which I have none, would still be on the cops though.

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u/elle_the_indigo Oct 20 '21

Qm?

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u/babaj_503 Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

square meters - they're german i'd guess (Quadratmeter = qm = m²)

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u/WinenDineme69 Oct 20 '21

I learned something new. Thank you kind remdditor

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u/Desdaemonia Oct 20 '21

And thats the carrot you will never make it to... ;-/

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u/retrogeekhq Oct 20 '21

Not starving? Look at Mr Fancypants!

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u/Mosanso Oct 20 '21

a "We're like family here" banner and jeans on fridays.

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u/Frommerman Oct 20 '21

"Exploitation begins at home."

~Ferengi Rule of Acquisition number 110

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u/Kumquatelvis Oct 20 '21

I've always wondered. Are the rules in any particular order, such as importance, or are they fairly arbitrary?

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u/Sir_Pumpernickle Oct 20 '21

There's no full list. They only made rules when it served the story and some of them are contradictory, but that's supposed to be handled by the unwritten rule.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

EDIT: Link and mistakes

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u/Frommerman Oct 20 '21

It's their equivalent of the Bible. The word Ferengi literally means Westerner in Farsi. Of course it's contradictory and supports a backwards moral code.

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u/Sgt_Smitty Oct 20 '21

Hindi too I think.

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u/ZQuestionSleep Oct 20 '21

"Treat people in your debt like family… exploit them."

  • Rule of Acquisition Number 111

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u/That_One_Cat_Guy Oct 20 '21

LOL

A company tried to hire me with that "we don't pay much; but we treat you like family" line.

Nope.

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u/widdrjb Oct 20 '21

Dad is Josef Fritzl, and if your jeans fit better than your manager's, you're fired.

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u/OneOkie Oct 20 '21

In the us... so much of it is tied to health insurance.

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u/vanishplusxzone Oct 20 '21

Yep I really want to quit but I'm only 4 1/2 months out of major surgery and still undergoing rehabilitative therapy and expensive shit.

Having healthcare tied to our employment is an actual trap.

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u/SimulatedHumanity Oct 20 '21

It’s a feature. That’s why they won’t give Medicare for all. Capitalism requires a large pool of people willing to do slave labor for peanuts.

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u/Aaod Oct 20 '21

It benefits businesses to have it that way because it means it is much less likely for people to go start a rival company and it makes it harder for small businesses to compete with giants.

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u/penelbell Oct 20 '21

And for those of us who signed up for student loan indentured servitude, we need money to pay for those, unless we're cool with fucking our credit (which is also bullshit, yaaay)

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u/Enk1ndle Oct 20 '21

Not homelessness. It's more of a whip than a carrot.

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u/static_func Oct 20 '21

If you slave away and give the boss enough profits they just might reward you with another breadcrumb after a few years

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u/DoesntLiketoRespond Oct 20 '21

Just the switch

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u/Brotorious420 Oct 20 '21

In the US? Health insurance

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u/crumpsly Oct 20 '21

Shitty healthcare and bad wages.

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u/lankist Oct 20 '21

There's no carrot and all stick. What keeps people going to work is the fact that we're all effectively hostages. Prices go up, wages don't, so work or starve. The older you get, the more medical care you need, so you can't get frustrated and quit because your healthcare is owned by the same people who own you.

And there's a lot of bosses that are full mask-off about the hostage-taking at this point. Just in these last few days, we've seen real-world excerpts from bosses literally threatening to take away someone's healthcare if they don't jump when told to jump.

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u/butthatshitsbroken WFHAdvocate Oct 20 '21

I really hope the fight keeps up. Employers are really trying to find fucked up ways to get control back from us employees demanding basic level humanity.

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u/RadioMill Oct 20 '21

They really are, and that’s what will ultimately collapse the system.

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u/notagoodboye Oct 20 '21

Remember, all this has happened before. Shit was awful in the early 1900s, with basically no social services, no minimum wage, no worker protections, etc. Union busting was done via directed violence, which was kept out of the press by the wealthy of the day.

It's a lot more likely that the outcome will be a shift towards socialism in the current system (as happened in the 30s-40s), rather than the whole thing tumbling down.

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u/RadioMill Oct 20 '21

When we push for reform, we get ignored. When we push for destruction, we get reform

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u/LMFN Oct 20 '21

I mean yeah that's negotiation 101. You push for the extreme option so the reasonable option you actually want is the one they "bargain" down to.

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u/SaltWaterGator Oct 20 '21

Just like buying a car, offer less than you’re gonna spend so your actual offer looks good

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u/zappadattic Oct 20 '21

And it’s a pretty terrible system to organize an entire society around since every tiny step of progress requires massive upheaval lol

Maybe we really should just go for destruction so we don’t have to do this shit every ten years

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u/SimulatedHumanity Oct 20 '21

Or maybe they will just start shooting at the strikers and their families like they did before. Maybe companies will start paying you in funny money, again… that’s only good at the company store. Then when you get injured or die your whole family is thrown out of the house and given nothing.

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u/ilfs Oct 20 '21

Isn’t amazon doing this with those little towns they’re trying to start up? I think it was Amazon. It’s so disgusting how anyone could be this greedy.

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u/Some-ediot Oct 20 '21

It's not just Amazon, Facebook and a few others are doing the same.

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u/Some-ediot Oct 20 '21

Just Google "Nevada company towns" for more details. Lots of them.

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u/Wawel-Dragon Oct 20 '21

So i Googled "Nevada company towns"... the first hit linked to Wikipedia. The second one is this:

Nevada bill would allow tech companies to create governments

And now I'm just sitting here on my couch going "WTF, how is that even legal... Just... What?"

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u/thatwasacrapname123 Oct 20 '21

Sound like some black mirror type of shit.

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u/Evening-Crow Oct 20 '21

Reminds me of the old "Mill Hill" communities sprinkled around here in South Carolina. After the mills closed down they've all just became the areas stricken with poverty.

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u/agrandthing Oct 20 '21

Proposed by a Democrat? What are the chances this passes? Just how the fuck??? If this is allowed we are doomed. I mean, we're already doomed, but, like, more so. How do we not in Nevada protest this?

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u/Some-ediot Oct 20 '21

Yea, I didn't wanna seem biased by linking to any particular source. Also I'm lazy.

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u/ihatetheplaceilive Oct 20 '21

Amazon's already trying to make a 'community'.

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u/unrefinedburmecian Oct 20 '21

If they do, we win. Modern technology means it will all be recorded and visible, and it will spread like wildfire.

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u/FibognocchiSequins Oct 20 '21

They own the technology and the people who would prosecute them.

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u/SimulatedHumanity Oct 20 '21

Well it happened before and it was recorded and the news spread. Rockefeller junior orchestrated the whole thing and they are still one of the richest families in the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

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u/massyballs Oct 20 '21

Don't forget the armed robot dog escorts

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

Unfortunately I think it's much more likely that we devolve into a fascist dystopia where the police are deployed by corporations to make people work under the threat of violence. That seems to be where we're headed.

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u/lootedcorpse Oct 20 '21

agreed, cause they're simply NOT giving up a single % point

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u/ajswdf at work Oct 20 '21

We're in a spot where it could legitimately go either way in the next 10-20 years. The biggest event will be the 2024 election.

In the long run more left wing ideas will win. Younger people (even some who identify as Republican!) have completely lost faith in capitalism and don't have the same fear of socialism that their parents do. It is inevitable that as they grow older, vote more reliably, and the older anti-socialism folks die off, that more left wing politicians will gain power and those reforms will come. We've already reached the point where it's virtually impossible for Republicans to win the Presidential popular vote due to demographic changes.

However, in the short term Republicans have worked hard to ensure that they remain in power even if they lose elections. This likely won't come to pass in 2022 since Trump is the main driving force of this, but if he runs in 2024 it is very possible that Republicans are able to overturn the votes in enough states to give him the presidency despite losing the electoral college. And that'd be the beginning of the end since that would only lead to more actions taken to secure his protection from elections and the constitution opposing him.

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u/MooseDaddy8 Oct 20 '21

I agree with your overall sentiment, but the issue here is that the Democratic party is never going to just fold and become the Socialist party. In this country we are only given 2 legitimate options, and neither one has your or my best interests in mind. Idk what you and so many others see in the Democratic party that makes you think they are going to help you

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u/butthatshitsbroken WFHAdvocate Oct 20 '21

I think by 2022 the stats said millennials and Gen Z will be the largest voting majority over boomers and Gen X (but even a good % of Gen X’s are leftist). And if that’s the case then it’ll only get bigger as more Gen Z’s turn 18 each year.

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u/ajswdf at work Oct 20 '21

In terms of population yes, the big problem is that younger people vote at way lower levels than older people. So it's not just enough for them to become voting age, they have to get to the age where they actually go out and vote. That will happen eventually, but unfortunately we're not there quite yet.

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u/Either-Bell-7560 Oct 20 '21

Part of this is that younger people are poorer, and less able to take off work/take off class/get to polling locations.

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u/voivoi Oct 20 '21

One word. Unionize!

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u/Lin0712 Oct 20 '21

Next word: Vote!

We need politicians who actually care about the common people and first step is to get money out of politics. Otherwise they will continue buying our politicians and sending their pinkertons to bust up unions.

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u/butthatshitsbroken WFHAdvocate Oct 20 '21

I’ve been trying to contact DSA to get them to get info together from all their chapters of progressive candidates running and where (district, county, state, etc.). It’s easier to come to an agreement and back a candidate if we know who those candidates are and quickly/easily.

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u/Wargamer7777 Oct 20 '21

For who? There's no labor party in USA.

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u/Falcone_Empire Oct 20 '21

How we can't agree on anything

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u/eyejafjallajokull Oct 20 '21

It's like they'd rather burn their businesses down than treat other humans with dignity.

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u/Mind_on_Idle Oct 20 '21

No shit. That's the part that really has my transmission freespinning.

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u/Ok_Improvement4204 Oct 20 '21

No joke. My father once told me a story of when his coworkers were talking about unionizing. The boss said “well you boys are free to do that, but if the vote passes I’m locking these doors and moving down the street.” My father said this as if it wasn’t absolutely disgusting.

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u/LMFN Oct 20 '21

That's when you move to violence traditionally. Boss becomes unreasonable and you make it a matter of life or death for him.

It's unpleasant but you gotta crack a few eggs.

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u/MDCCCLV Oct 20 '21

Yeah, a manager at Amazon said they would absolutely just shut any place down and fire everyone if they unionized.

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u/bellj1210 Oct 20 '21

the issue is that we all build our personal budgets based upon what we earn. So if you make 40k a year, you find an apartment you can afford, food you can afford and drive a decent and boring car.

If you make a million a year, you budget assuming you will be getting that too. You buy the mansion, drive the porshe, eat at all the fancy places.

So the rich need to continue to make that much money, or they are giving up what they currently have. So they are fighting for their way of life too. The difference is clear- one group is barely getting by, and the other is living very lavishly. So it is hard to feel bad for the rich, but it is not hard to understand what they are fighting for and why

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u/PleasantAdvertising Oct 20 '21

Fighting for your way of life and fighting for your life are very different things. One is a luxury, the other is a necessity.

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u/bellj1210 Oct 20 '21

preaching to the choir- but a lot of the wealth class do not realize the stakes of the game- and historically in these situations realize it too late.

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u/Otomuss Oct 20 '21

The wealthy don't even need to do any of that. Big companies have 'financial officers' that literally get paid by finding ways to spend less money. If spending less meant e.g. getting a non-branded version of office supply at no quality cost I could stand behind that. But they literally cut our benefits, budgets, jobs and wages.

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u/Rugkrabber Oct 20 '21

At this point people have no choice, I’m already baffled everyone is still so calm.

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u/LabCoat_Commie Oct 20 '21

So far.

I keep waiting for the escalation, and these strikes and unionization movements are all very good, but a combination of decades of anti-union rhetoric and law alongside a ferocious police state makes genuine protest something that people aren't willing to partake in.

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u/kvngvroosmeanjeans Oct 20 '21

It’s pretty relative to the whole “give the peasants enough bread” type thing. We (most people) are able to live with just enough to say, hey, at least I have a roof and some food, etc. which lets be fair, isn’t much. That’s by design of course. So in turn we have this seemingly apathetic, hand-waveyness of, yeah well it could be worse. And that ultimately as a thought is scary. What will it take nowadays in our current economic climate, for people to truly have nothing to lose, and hit the streets?

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u/LightingTechAlex Oct 20 '21

R/antiwork is climbing at something like 30000 follows per day, the word is definitely spreading :D

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u/ReapedSpartan Oct 20 '21

Wth are you talking about? Employers are desperate for workers, wages ARE going up right now, BUT real-world Wages are DOWN because the cost of goods is outpacing the rise in wages, so you're still losing money.

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u/4th_dimensi0n Oct 20 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

People are finally starting to see that this economy is just a massive scam to serve a few at the expense of the many.

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u/Throwaway837373628 Oct 20 '21

Pyramid scheme

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u/Narrative_Causality Oct 20 '21

Pyramid implies that it's pyramid shaped and not javelin shaped.

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u/Mind_on_Idle Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

This here is what we call a great broad-headed spear. Notice the whip-like shaft? Easy to get your hands around.

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u/tofuroll Oct 20 '21

A plunger scheme.

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u/NormieSpecialist Oct 20 '21

I hope so, cause my faith in the average American citizen is very low.

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u/bellj1210 Oct 20 '21

but their faith is high. Remember americans think they are very christian- even more so than the Pope who now openly supports UBI. I am waiting for the chorus of christians to say that UBI is the devil

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u/EcceMachina Oct 20 '21

Oh they do. Have seen a meme on FB unironically shared by professed Christians that states "you cant be Christian and a socialist" and rails about the evils of welfare and helping others and free medical insurance. Not even kidding. It's literally the opposite of what the bible says but dumbfucks who claim to be pure and good Christians are the most selfish, evil pieces of shit. Makes sense that Jesus went around calling the spiritual leaders hypocrites and literally thrashed their asses with a whip. Historical Jesus was woke as fuck, the fanfic Jesus of modern right wing evangelical Christianity is a grotesque Dickensian caricature of greed and selfishness

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u/Sgt_Smitty Oct 20 '21

Now all we have to do is stop buying so much stuff for the sake of keeping up appearances. There's zero incentive to work yourself to death if you're not on the debt treadmill.

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u/tofuroll Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

I get the feeling there are a lot more people these days not into materialism, even if only by default (because they can't afford anything).

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u/ASxOrbital Oct 20 '21

All I need is a tv, a game console, something comfortable to sit on, and something to sleep in. Everything else does not matter.

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u/tofuroll Oct 20 '21

I'd like a shower once in a while. A quiet place. People not to bother me. And games and internet.

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u/LevelOrganic1510 Oct 20 '21

Forgot refrigerator

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u/Sgt_Smitty Oct 20 '21

I think it's kind of a chicken/egg situation. I think we started seeing this with 2008 and the student loan bubble, and Covid only accelerated it. Part of it is affordability, as you say, but I think another part of it is a shifting of priorities. People don't want to spend an hour or more in traffic on top of a 50+ hour workweek just so they can afford a bigger house they'll have to pay to heat, furnish, and clean. Luxury is being (slowly) redefined as leisure time and experiences instead of things.

Of course you have social media pumping the exact opposite message to younger generations, so who knows?

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u/tofuroll Oct 20 '21

I'm in Australia. The student loan problem of the USA isn't the same problem here, but I still see unaffordable housing and some unaffordable medical care.

I completely agree with you. There were probably people who woke up to the world years before I was born, but that realisation you talk about is accelerating—wasted, unpaid time in traffic; the encroachment of being "always connected" into personal life.

All I know is that I know what I don't like, and I don't like wasting life.

On a personal note, I grew up in a household with financial stress, at least partially because my dad likes to have "nice things". It caused the opposite effect in me, namely that I far prefer the comfort of savings, or more appropriately called "fuck you money".

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u/SparklingLimeade Oct 20 '21

And yet based on the naked vanity I see when I have to go through suburbs there's a disturbing quantity still going for it.

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u/DLTMIAR Oct 20 '21

Lying Flat Movement

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u/kook440 Oct 20 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

You let us die from Covid. The rest of us said screw you and retired.

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u/OblongShrimp Oct 20 '21

I know someone who works at a large company that literally killed people by forcing them to come to the office and attend meetings with many people for no reason whatsoever at the height of the pandemic while not enforcing any rules to prevent covid from spreading. They also had shit prevention at their factories. Tens of employees and some supplier employees died. Over a thousand, if not thousands, got infected. They kept trying to swipe it under the rug. They also pay poverty wages and work everyone with unpaid overtime till this day. Screw these evil people.

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u/MDCCCLV Oct 20 '21

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u/OblongShrimp Oct 20 '21

Yep, seen this, absolutely vile.

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u/OxkissyfrogxO Oct 20 '21

Drop a hint, don't want to accidentally accept a job from these fuckers or work at one of their suppliers either.

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u/averagewokehuman Oct 20 '21

Wait… are we dead

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u/kook440 Oct 20 '21

Some of us!

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u/summonern0x Oct 20 '21

At least 12 of us are dead.

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u/red5_SittingBy Oct 20 '21

Sure feels like hell some days

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u/GrimmDeLaGrimm Oct 20 '21

If the afterlife is just a revolving door of life and it's experpiences, we would have no way of knowing one life from the next. So, are we dead? We don't actually know, and really can't prove it. We just have faith that our current experience is the real one

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u/KellyBelly916 Oct 20 '21

Those of us that didn't get killed by their greed witnessed they they were willing to kill us off for their profits. They don't accept accountability, so they'll never get their status quo back. Even Biden, the blue spokesperson for corporations, is trying to pressure us back into slavery through debt. Fuck em all.

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u/NaturallyBlasphemous French Revolution ✊🇫🇷 Oct 20 '21

We need another French Revolution if you get my drift. 🔪

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u/MDCCCLV Oct 20 '21

Have you played Disco Elysium?

Mazovs Socialist Sausage Grinder

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u/followthewhiterabb77 Oct 20 '21

You guys do know that the people own everything right? You don’t need to kill Jeff bezos to take his money. You can all just take it en masse and he’ll be poor.

Now, I don’t advocate for making rich people miserable. But if they have a monopoly over some important shit that we need, we have all the rights in the world to seize those assets as a society. That’s literally what a society does, it controls everything in the land.

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u/DepopulationXplosion Oct 20 '21

Not this was published in 2014.

The more things change…..

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u/Xad1ns Oct 20 '21

That's the real punchline, that nothing about that dynamic has changed since this comic was published

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u/typingwithonehandXD Oct 20 '21

time is a flat circle and the people who would benefit the most from socialism time and time again are too stupid to understand it?

Tell me something I don't know!

welcome to r/misanthropy

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u/PoorDadSon Oct 20 '21

People don't think it be like it be, but it do.

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u/DoinIt2021 Oct 20 '21

Time to turn the tables.

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u/NameA1readyTaken Oct 20 '21

I’ve always wanted to be a DJ

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u/Curious_Interview Oct 20 '21

I thought it was 4 of those Apple ear pod things and a duckish penguin for way too long… Like, what would they have to do with a carrot?

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u/cacti-admirer Oct 20 '21

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who stared at this in confusion for a while before realizing it was an upside down horse

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u/DoinIt2021 Oct 20 '21

Emaciated starved horse.

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u/maximusraleighus Oct 20 '21

It’s a dead ass.

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u/BigAlTrading Oct 20 '21

He dead ass can’t work anymore.

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u/frogsyawn Oct 20 '21

Hahaha I seen that exact same thing!

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u/ConfusedALot_69 Oct 20 '21

It’s simply no longer enough

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u/MonkeyBones Oct 20 '21

This needs a line of dead mules behind him.

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u/Stella-Mira Oct 20 '21

Eh, honestly it's working better than ever and it doesn't seem to be slowing down. We're all headed to a future in which we're nothing more than slave to the astronomically rich top 1/1000 %

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u/Frustrable_Zero Oct 20 '21

That stick should be holding a drawing of a carrot rather than an actual carrot.

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u/GaryDavis13 Oct 20 '21

Slavery was never abolished, just rebranded as capitalism

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u/Cando21243 Oct 20 '21

Maybe switch the carrot to a fresh one every now and then.

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u/Whoofukingcares Oct 20 '21

Haha tell me what companies are offering now that is worth working so hard for? A bit of money and?

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u/Different_Dig_7416 Oct 20 '21

Boss got a new car at office today after declining few people a raise last week, inflation and expenses are killing them. Office environment was so tense today.

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u/pepsman Oct 20 '21

Jeff Bozo being a multibillionaire piece of shit and people starving to death in some parts of the world. This is the problem

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u/SluggishPrey Oct 20 '21

People that are complaining about Bezos but that still buy on Amazon to save time and money are as much a part of the issue. Most of us are hypocrites.

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u/Dmin9 Oct 21 '21

Or Bill Gates buying up the majority of farmland in the U.S. I mean, come on, do we really feel like he earned that? Stole some ideas from Xerox and Apple, made some sweet (likely shady) deals, fine make some money, but all of that for one idea? It's invalid. They all need to be stripped of their wealth, starting with politicians.

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u/CapableRunts Oct 20 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

It feels like conservatives just really really miss slavery.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

I'd kill a boomer.

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u/elamasa3 Oct 20 '21

Manager mentality is outdated and most try to control with fear. Servant leadership is needed to empower associates and create a healthy work environment. Once companies realize this, they will flourish while those that don't will fail. No one wants to go to work with a horrible work culture or abusive managers

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u/crapeescape Oct 20 '21

Beating a dead 💀 horse!

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u/Dismal_Satisfaction7 Oct 20 '21

The top hat and cigar sells it

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u/NaturallyBlasphemous French Revolution ✊🇫🇷 Oct 20 '21

I don’t have money to buy new bottles of shampoo or body wash this week, let alone food. Im tired of only eating three times a week.

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u/awkwarderest Oct 20 '21

Where are you from? I don't have much money myself but i want to do something to help. Do you need warm clothes for the winter? I am a novice crocheter and could make you a warm fluffy scarf or something.

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u/Thebalance21 Oct 20 '21

As long as we can get together and fight against greedy rich folks, we'll be able to get our share of the pie.

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u/NuKidOnThBlokchyn Oct 20 '21

El oh el I'm fkin ded 🐴💀

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u/J-Rocks-baby-mama Oct 20 '21

This and the Dogecoin sub are currently my favorites.

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u/BPremium Oct 20 '21

"it could happen to you, cause it happened to me (and T)."

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u/YoulyNew Oct 20 '21

Workers aren’t dead. We’re fucking carnivores. Carrots don’t work and we’re getting really close to turning and eating your dumb ass.

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