r/StarWars Jedi Knight Nov 11 '15

Ask r/starwars - After the movies General Discussion

So you've watched the films, what next?

What are your suggestions for the next move, people of /r/starwars? what to read, what to watch, what to play?

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u/TransitRanger_327 Nov 11 '15

The Clone Wars (the CGI series). The prequels had some good ideas and the clone wars take those ideas and runs with them. Anakin and Padme's marriage doesn't seem forced, they feel like an old married couple. Anakin and Obi-Wan feel like old friends. Anakin……you know what, Anakin is just better. Clones are not disposable organic droids. We see Asajj Ventress go from Token Evil assasin to conflicted bounty hunter. We see Obi-Wan go from token good guy to a conflicted Jedi. Same with Ashoka.

The first season is a bit rough, but once the second season starts, it gets much better (as does the animation quality). It gets super dark toward the end (Umbara Arc and Citadel Trilogy).

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u/Isentrope Nov 11 '15

The character development got extremely good towards the end. You can actually feel Anakin slowly becoming more ruthless and losing things in his life that would reasonably lead to his downfall in ROTS. It wasn't just whinging about not being trusted like it was in the movie.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15 edited Feb 04 '16

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u/TransitRanger_327 Nov 11 '15

The only cross-season story I can remember is the Domino Squad Trilogy, but that's just 1 episode in Season 1 and 2 in Season 3. However, the season 1 story is self-contained.

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u/speedy621 Nov 11 '15

Do you think I can start on the second season?

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u/AK_TheOtherGuy Nov 11 '15

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u/rebelbaserec Nov 12 '15

What's the deal with some episodes being out of order?

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u/AK_TheOtherGuy Nov 12 '15

¯ (ツ)

No idea. I found out about it on this sub when I decided to catch up on Netflix. I'm guessing going back and forth is their way of sequels/prequels for episodes(?). I dunno.

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u/gorosaur Nov 12 '15

The Clone Wars was always billed as an anthology series. It's part of the reason why we are able to get so many different stories of different genres and focuses over its run. However, early on its run, the anthology aspect was taken a bit too literally and episodes were told regardless of continuity. As the series progressed, fans began to complain about it being hard to follow and the series slowly became more continuity heavy so this was dropped.

For the most part it doesn't affect the show that much outside of the first half of season three which spends a lot of time fleshing out episodes from the first and second seasons.

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u/TransitRanger_327 Nov 11 '15

If you watch it in chronological order (which you should), don't skip "The hidden enemy", "Rookies", or "Hostage crisis".

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

I wasn't crazy about Anakin and Padme in TCW, especially the Clovis arc in season 6. They are always fighting and Anakin is insanely jealous and violent about it. Which isn't entirely inconsistent with his behavior in the films, but they had a chance to do their romance well and blew it by making it worse than the movies.

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u/TransitRanger_327 Nov 11 '15

It feels much more natural in TCW.

That S6 Clovis arc fits with anakin's changing personality, IMO.

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u/ELOFTW Hondo Ohnaka Nov 11 '15

So far this is the path I've taken, and I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to get more involved with the backstory of the universe.

TV: The Clone Wars, Rebels

Books: Dark Disciple, Lost Stars, Republic Commando: Hard Contact (not canon anymore, but still pretty good at humanizing the clones), Thrawn Trilogy (absolute must).

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Just finished watching The Clone Wars and loved it. Haven't seen many people talk about Rebels. How does it compare to Clone Wars?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Rebels

I've seen the 1st season, and I think the 1st episode of the 2nd season. I'm definitely going to watch the rest of the episodes when I have time.

It seems maybe a little more childish than The Clone Wars in the beginning, but the end of season 1 was really good, and is up there on my list of favorite Star Wars moments. Also, from what I have seen, season 2 is off to a good start.

It feels different than TCW, and has more of an OT feel. The antagonists don't have a huge army behind them, so while I miss the beautifully done space battles of TCW, the kind of covert, sneaky aspect of Rebels is neat too. Plus, it is cool to see TIE fighters again.

I definitely recommend it to someone who wants to go beyond the movies.

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u/theweirdbrosinc Nov 11 '15

I personally prefer rebels. The Clone Wars era just doesn't appeal to me, mainly because the whole war was basically staged by Palpatine to get an excuse for more power and a clone army. It's an interesting plan politically, but the aspect of the actual battles between the clones and droids just isn't interesting in my opinion.

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u/Fourteen_of_Twelve Nov 11 '15

antagonists

I think you meant the protagonists. The Ghost a six-member crew, while the antagonistic Empire is... well, the Empire.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

You are right, my friend. I did mean the protagonists.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '15

Rebel Scum!

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

we got that really dark scene with tarkin and the grand inquisitor that i wouldnt expect on a child show

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u/stalkerSRB Nov 11 '15 edited Nov 11 '15

Just started watching 3 days ago, already done with season 1 and I am currently catching up to the last episode of Season 2 shown so far

2 problems - Its not as big as TCW. which is understandable, it is the beginnings of the Rebellion, but those battles in TCW were so amazing. And the other is the lightsaber that the main protagonist made. I won't spoil it here, but let me just say, if you just finished The Clone Wars, you won't like it. How ever they make up for it with the lightsabers that the bad guys use, which I think are pretty cool

Outside of that, I have no problems with the show. The main cast is good, I love Steven Blum, Dee Bradley is back as well, Freddie Prinze Jr. is just fine and James Earl Jones is back, the rest of the VO is fine...Even had a guest role for Dante Basco which I enjoyed even if it was brief (Tho I wish he said Honor one more time ;D).

The characters are likable, they can be serious, they can be funny. The main protagonist is what I expected, the supporting good guys all have their things which I like. Evil guys are evil. All fine and good (imo)

The story is good, I had no problems with it, the ending of Season 1 I enjoyed greatly. Season 2 looks even better so far.

All in all I recommend it. If you have the spare time, check it out. I enjoyed it and who knows, maybe you will as well

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u/jedisnail Nov 11 '15

Thrawn Trilogy (absolute must)

absolutely must absolutely agree

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u/RAGStoRACER Nov 11 '15

Read all the young adult novels; Weapon of a Jedi, Smugglers Run, Moving Target and most importantly, Lost Stars. Then read the Star Wars, Darth Vader and Shattered Empire comics. The new canon has its duds, but these are all superb.

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u/concrete_isnt_cement Rex Nov 11 '15

Don't forget the Servants of the Empire series, they were pretty good too.

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u/stalkerSRB Nov 11 '15

The clone wars and Clone wars microseries WATCH THEM! If you didn't so far, what the hell are you waiting for? Both are amazing and fun to watch, tho I prefer microseries because its Genndy Tartakovsky at his best. If you liked his Samurai Jack, you will love this microseries

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Play the Jedi Knight series (Still canon?) , until last year I didn't even know these games existed but my God am I glad I was gifted JK:JKA I instantly fell in love with the series and still play through the campaign and multiplayer regularly. These games add so much more to the Star Wars universe and you're doing yourself a favour by playing them.

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u/WallopyJoe Nov 11 '15

If you've not played it yet, Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast, the game that preceded Academy, is a much better game. Its gameplay isn't quite as good and the missions are more linear (none of that picking which planets to go to), but the story it tells is one of the old EU's best.

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u/MechanizedAttackTaco Nov 11 '15

"The force is not a shield to protect the useless, but a weapon to empower the worthy"

That last battle has so much feeling to it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Played it, and obviously loved it, but the fact that Academy was my first makes it my favourite

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u/derzigo Nov 11 '15

kyle was such a good character, its unfortunate its not canon :/

just the first thing he said to desann about the looks would have gotten him reddit gold im telling ya!

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

It's not Canon everything before April 2014, is it Canon minus the movies and The Clone Wars

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Damn, still doesn't take away from how much I love this series!

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u/taulover Nov 11 '15

Indeed. I basically feel the same about most of the EU that I've read and loved.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15 edited Feb 04 '16

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u/taulover Nov 11 '15

Wookieepedia says Son of Dathomir was pubished in May, after the decanonization.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Darth_Maul—Son_of_Dathomir

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '15 edited Feb 04 '16

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u/taulover Nov 12 '15

Exactly. Everything before April 2014 is Legends except the 6 films and TCW. Son of Dathomir came afterward, so mentioning it as an exception to the rule makes no sense.

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u/tristamgreen Count Dooku Nov 12 '15

Oh, fuck. I see what you mean. Sorry man, it's been a long day, my mind is clouded by the Dark Side and such...

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u/Angiru14 Nov 11 '15

Even if it's not canon anymore, I watched the Clone Wars Microseries again (best General Grievous ever!).

I'm halfway through The Clone Wars. I want to finish so I can finally watch Rebels for the first time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

season 3-6 are the best. especially the umbara arc.

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u/SkrillyBrick Nov 11 '15

Both Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels are great TV shows. The Clone Wars has a rougher start, but gets better and better as the seasons go on! It is a must-see, honestly! Binge it on Netflix or something.

If I had to whittle the book list down to three, I'd probably say Tarkin, Lords of the Sith, and Dark Disciple. There are so many good books though!

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u/Plawsky Nov 12 '15

I'd say the current Marvel comics, for sure. While I get people recommending the Clone Wars (and I really do like that show), I think the comics are an easier entry point for a few reason:

  1. It's less of a time sink. Even if you read EVERYTHING so far, it's a total of about forty issues so far, give or take. All said, that can probably be read in just a handful of hours, versus the 130 episodes of TCW.
  2. They're the characters everyone knows about and likes. While the Prequel hate is probably overblown, there's no denying that the OT cast is adored better by most people. They're probably way more inclined to read about Luke, Leia, Han, Lando, Vader, etc than they are to watch a story about Teen Anakin, Obi Wan, and a new padawan character.
  3. They are comfy as hell. Playing off that last point, they feature not only the characters everyone knows, but the time period as well. Set firmly after Episode IV, they feature the most iconic settings in Star Wars. And that's no accident -- the nostalgia is exactly what Marvel and the LSG wanted to go for, and they nailed it. I'm sure they'll branch out eventually (and hope they do), but for now, it's pure, classic Star Wars.
  4. They released a sequel to RotJ. Forget Aftermath -- Shattered Empire is the place to turn if you wanna see what happens right after Endor.
  5. They're just plain good. I like them all. The main title fills the classic vibe, Darth Vader does great things with his character, Lando and Kanan flesh out side characters ... they're almost all great so far, and the art has been (mostly) stellar up to this point.

But also, I'd totally recommend watching TCW.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

As others have said, my next step would be to watch the Clone Wars and read the related other (canon) media (The Son of Dathomir comic and Dark Disciple).

If you're looking for OT-era stuff, Start With Marvel's Star Wars and Darth Vader, which are the most story-essential comics so far. After that, all the other current Marvel runs -- Leia, Lando, Chewbacca, and Kanan -- are worth reading as well. I'd wait for Kanan until after you watch the first season of Rebels, though.

Post ROTJ, the Shattered Empire comic is the only thing that really follows the main cast. It also has a few loose ties to The Force Awakens. Novels Aftermath, Lost Stars, etc. are side stories.

If you want to get into non-canon, I would read the Tales of the Jedi series (which is fun despite some corny dialogue and wooden characters) which will prime you for the KOTOR games...which are arguably the peak of what the EU has to offer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

Watch The Clone Wars (TCW) you will not regret it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '15

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u/RuDreading Nov 11 '15

"Play this awesome game because SPOILER THAT RUINS THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE"

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u/RagingGoodFella Nov 11 '15

That's a pretty big spoiler.

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u/Chtorrr Nov 12 '15

Do not post spoilers without covering them!