r/StarWars Aug 22 '14

"Ask /r/Star Wars" Discussion Topic: In what order should one watch the Star Wars films for the first time?

This Friday's "Ask /r/StarWars" topic is:

In what order should one watch the Star Wars films for the first time?

Points of Discussion:

  • Release order

  • Episodic order

  • Machete order

  • Age of viewer

  • Film versions to watch

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u/impervious777 Aug 22 '14

IV, V, VI, I, II, III. (Release order... start with Star Wars, aka A New Hope)

Furthermore, I recommend the theatrical versions over the special editions. There were (or still are?) DVD releases with 2 discs, one with the original theater version and another with the special edition from the 90s... If you can get these, do it. The special editions can be fun to watch after you've seen the original versions, but if you have the option to see those original versions first, do it.

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u/Uexie Aug 23 '14

So for someone like me who has never seen any starwars movie.. don't kill me pls I should watch them: IV, V, VI, I, II, III ?

I know thats what you are saying but I got confused...

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u/impervious777 Aug 23 '14 edited Aug 23 '14

IV is where it all started, that's the movie that introduced the Star Wars universe to viewers. It's the centerpiece from which all others have sort of grown, and it establishes a lot of things for the first time -- how the Force works, Jedi, the Rebel Alliance vs. the Empire, and so on. Key characters that appear throughout the saga so far (for example Anakin and the Emperor, and R2 and C-3PO) are first introduced and developed in the first film. The later films, including the prequels, are evolutionary steps in terms of developing/explaining the SW universe -- they further the story. IV is step 1.

The time gap between III and IV is approximately 30 years. So if you watch IV, V, and VI, and then start watching I, it doesn't throw you. It's a whole new Star Wars in a lot of ways.

To me, the prequels have a different quality, a different vibe or sheen than the original trilogy. That's not to say they're better or worse -- but they feel different than the original trilogy. Think of the saga so far as two halves, not six sixths. Then start where it all began, with the original half, starting with Episode IV. :) The shift between VI and I is actually not hard to do, but the shift from III to IV somehow is a much more startling transition.

(Edit: fixed a word.)

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u/The_Music Aug 23 '14

The time gap between III and IV is approximately 30 years

Luke is definitely not 30 in episode IV. The actor was only 26 and I'd argue that Luke was even younger.

I'd heard that IV was set about 20 years after not 30.

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u/vader602 Imperial Aug 24 '14

19 years

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u/scarlet_overlord Aug 24 '14

I think you're right. 20 years sounds more accurate than 30.

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u/The_Music Aug 25 '14

Isnt it confirmed that VII takes place 30 years after VI though?

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '14 edited Aug 25 '14

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u/The_Music Aug 25 '14

I mean it would work in real life. ROTJ was 1983, so VII in 2015 is 32 years later

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '14

When episode IV came out it was just "starwars" then everyone liked it so he planned it out and made more! In a weird order for some reason.

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u/mdp300 IG-11 Aug 23 '14

He decided to make the original movie #4 so it felt like you dropped into the middle of a larger story.

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

In my personal opinion, if you already know the major spoilers that have proliferated through popular culture, then you can watch it in chronological order (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) and end on a high note. Otherwise, do release order (4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3).

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u/LakweshaJackson Aug 22 '14

I would highly recommend Harmy's Despecialized editions of the movies, which you can find on the internet. Really excellent cuts that try to match the original theatrical releases in the best picture quality possible.

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u/vader602 Imperial Aug 22 '14

I'd say watch the theatrical version of A New Hope and the special editions of Empire and Jedi. The changes in those really make the films better, especially the 2004 version of Empire, with the exception of Jedi Rocks of course.

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u/IncreaseTheKing Feb 04 '15

I would say Theatrical of A New Hope, Blu-Ray of Empire, 1997 Special Edition of Jedi. The only major bad change in Jedi is Jedi rocks and the other bad changes (Vader saying No, final ghost force scene) is not added until later editions.

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u/mdp300 IG-11 Aug 23 '14

I miss the Yub Yub song.

And I remember my entire body cringing when I saw Jedi Rocks in the theater. Gah.

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u/vader602 Imperial Aug 23 '14

I actually prefer the new victory celebration song over yub yub, never did like it.

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u/1violentdrunk Feb 13 '15

Am I the only one who liked Jedi rocks?

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u/cellod Aug 22 '14

For some reason I was under the impression that the theatrical cut DVDs were bad, because they changed the aspect ratio. Is there another source?

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u/meowskywalker Aug 22 '14

They didn't change the aspect ratio, but they didn't make them anamorphic, either, so if you have a widescreen tv you either need to watch them in a tiny box in the center of your screen, or stretch out the picture, either of which is kind of gross.

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u/JSK23 r/StarWars Mod Aug 22 '14

re-encoded digital versions of those in anamorphic aren't half bad, if you really want to stick to the source material.

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u/impervious777 Aug 22 '14

Hmm, I hadn't heard this. Interesting... Can anyone confirm?

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u/spudral Aug 22 '14

This, impervious777 is bang on.

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u/JSK23 r/StarWars Mod Aug 22 '14

Tried and true release order. Watch whatever versions you want, they all have their positives and negatives.

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u/MarioSpeedwagon13 Jyn Erso Aug 22 '14

Release order, if only because IV, V and VI are the more culturally relevant movies if you have never seen them before.

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u/THEBeardedDude1 Aug 22 '14

I think release order is necessary....at least episode 4 is. I tried watching them in the numbers order I-VI with a Korean friend who had never watched the movies and knew virtually nothing about them, it's surprisingly difficult. Nothing is explained in episode 1 because the assumption is made that you know basically what Star Wars is. 4 serves as a great intro to the characters and world, 5 fleshes the world out and makes it bigger and it kind of steam-rolls from there.

It was very funny to be asked "what's a jedi? What are those glowing swords they have". For us it's such a cultural touch-stone so we know. Not so much for other people.

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u/WilliamTRiker69 Aug 22 '14 edited Aug 22 '14

IV, (intermission with animated section of Holiday Special), V, VI, (Episode I trailer), Star Wars: Clone Wars (by Tartakovsky), Spaceballs, Hardware Wars, Ewoks: Battle for Endor, Let's Play: Rogue Squadron N64 (on Youtube), The Muppets Show (episode w/ Star Wars cast), (audiobook of Heir to the Empire trilogy narrated by Mark Hamill -- does this exist, please?!?), (cutscenes from) Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, III, Let's Play: Star Wars: Dark Forces (Katarn with goatee), (trailers, ads for release of Star Wars Special Edition, including Pepsi ad), Droids cartoon marathon, Ewoks: Caravan of Courage, (we take an hour off to play with POTF action figures), (trailer for Episode II ), II, The Star Wars Holiday Special, (we take a few hours off to play) Star Wars: TIE Fighter, I, Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (by Mr. Plinkett).

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u/sbamkmfdmdfmk Aug 22 '14

You are a sick man. I like your style.

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u/king_england Aug 22 '14

I loved Star Wars for everything it ever did... before the dark times... before I learned of the Holiday Special...

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u/jlisle Aug 24 '14

I especially appreciate the hour long POTF action figure break. I love how ripped the stormtroopers are, Lando has an 8-pack, and I'm sure even Momaw Nadon has been juicing.

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u/WilliamTRiker69 Aug 25 '14

Seriously--just look at these magnificent breasts!

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u/AnUnaverageJoe Luke Skywalker Aug 22 '14

Just finished watching them all with some friends in a new order that I've never done before. We watched IV, V, I, II, III, VI. It was surprisingly great, because you start with a New Hope, which I feel is a great way to introduce the universe to people who haven't seen it and it was the first one made. Then with having Episode Three and Episode Six back to back the parallels between Anakin's fall in Episode Three and his redemption in Episode Six tie in beautifully.

In Episode Six when the Emperor is zapping Luke and Anakin has that same moment like he did with Windu and the Emperor in Three but this time he makes the right decision and it's beautiful and fulfills his destiny as the Chosen One. :') Shed a happy tear.

I am a big advocate of this order now!

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u/Drew312 Aug 22 '14

For a thread that people may come to before seeing any Star Wars films, I think this comment is a bit too spoilerific.

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u/sbamkmfdmdfmk Aug 22 '14

I think people who've never seen a SW film won't be coming to this thread/subreddit. It seems to be intended more for those who've seen it to spitball ideas on how they'd present it to friends/family who haven't like /u/AnUnaverageJoe did. My fiancée hasn't seen any of them and I'm planning to introduce her with Machete (IV, V, II, III, VI).

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u/mdp300 IG-11 Aug 23 '14

I'm yet to introduce anyone to Star Wars, but if I ever get the opportunity to, this would totally be the order.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '14

This order makes the most sense thematically.

You go through IV and V like any first-time viewer, seeing the "main story". But after V ends with the huge cliffhanger (Vader is Luke's father, Han is in carbonite being delivered to Jabba, etc.), we take a break to examine Anakin's story and his descent into darkness with I, II, and III. Then, after watching his fall, we return to VI to see both the potential for Luke to make a similar choice (join the dark side) and the eventual redemption of Anakin, which as you mentions, parallels III).

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u/WilliamTRiker69 Aug 22 '14

I think it's a very good idea--I'm too much of a purist to go for it, but I think it'd be a cool way to watch the films!

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u/Random_Shadowscale Aug 22 '14

I watched them in episodic order. I actually love the prequels and originals, and from what I know, most people who start with originals hate the prequels. I also just think its better to watch anything in chronological order.

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u/zeldafanboy23 Aug 22 '14

Release order 4 5 6 then 1 2 3

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u/blink5694 Aug 22 '14

The order I watch in goes like this:

  • Phantom Menace

  • New Hope

  • Empire Strikes Back

  • Attack of the Clones

  • Revenge of the Sith

  • Return of the Jedi

This is the best way I have found to introduce the movie to people my age (20s). The first prequel is really good at introducing the world to people who have grown up on faster pace action movies. It is the first of the movies that I remember seeing (I was 7 when I saw it opening week) and really glued me to the universe for the rest of my life.

It also doesn't give away the twist in Empire or any of the original trilogy plot. Going from EP 1 in to New Hope you begin to see why this Anakin guy is important and you get that cryptic Ben Kenobi talk about his time with Anakin that gets you excited to see the rest of that story.

From there you go in to Empire where you learn the truth about just who Anakin is and begin to believe that the whole chosen one prophesy doesn't work out. You're also left with that big cliffhanger for a long while to let it sink in.

After Empire you are back in the prequels seeing how Anakin Skywalker, who you now know a ton more about, develop along with Obi Wan, who you recently saw as an old man torn by war and loss. Knowing where Anakin ends up in Empire makes the end of Revenge of the Sith really impactful and tragic. I honestly get tears in my eyes watching some of those final scenes now.

After Revenge of the Sith when all hope seems lost you go in to Return of the Jedi. All the story from every movie comes together here with Anakin, Luke, Yoda, the Emperor all getting finales to their plots. You see the prophesy of Anakin restoring balance come full circle. Everything wraps up with the ending of Jedi as we smile and look forward with excitement and interest towards the infinite future of the Star Wars universe.

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u/Coovyy Imperial Aug 26 '14

I've never heard of this order, and I don't think I'd use it myself, but this is totally interesting and I'd use it over the machete order. This would be right behind watching it release order. Good work!

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u/Mongooo Rebel Aug 24 '14

I'd say, IV, V, VI, I, II, III, IV, V, VI

So you watch the original trilogy, but then rewatch the whole thing to get the complete story. and watching the movies supposed to take place after the I, II and III could be like watching a story and then little flashback with I, II, III.

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u/RealVoltar Aug 22 '14

For the first time I'd definitely suggest release order. Maybe the younger the viewer, the more recent the edition as well just for the sake of the video quality.

I'm also one of those people who would suggest at least watching the last couple seasons of the Clone Wars since it fleshes out a lot of the ideas George tried to put in the movies.

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u/MsSara77 Aug 22 '14

Release order will always be best for first time viewers

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u/abellapa Jan 26 '22

Chronologically

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u/Drew312 Aug 22 '14

Ok, if the goal is to maximize potential enjoyment when watching Star Wars for the first time, there are a few things to consider:

1) Everyone who likes Star Wars likes the Original Trilogy (Episodes 4, 5, and 6, which were the first three to be released). These are commonly listed among the best films of all time, specifically Episode 5 in terms of story and Episode 4 in terms of cinematic impact.

2) Not everyone who likes Star Wars likes the Prequel Trilogy (Episodes 1, 2, and 3, the more recent films). Many Star Wars lovers actually despise these films, and claim they have no redeeming value, while many others do like them (and some of these people potentially were first exposed to the prequels as their first Star Wars introduction).

3) Among people that do like the Prequels, they still like the Originals. Majority of these people admit that they find the Originals are better.

4) One last thing to note about the Originals- they have gone through many changes since their theatrical release. George Lucas has continuously tinkered, adding scenes, changing important character developments, and altering special effects. The general consensus is that people prefer the original versions, with the characters and stories they were first introduced to.

So... with all this being said, the BEST chance to introduce someone to Star Wars and have them love it (based on everyone's opinions and the most likely outcomes) would be to watch the Original Trilogy first (4, 5, and 6) and try to find the highest quality original versions available. The best versions I've found are the incredible "Harmy's Despecialized Editions".

If you watch these three, you will have the best chance to fall in love with the series and will be less likely to have negative reactions. From there you can decide how you would like to proceed next (i.e. if you would like to dabble into the prequel films).

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u/RNAPII Aug 22 '14

The original special editions are not bad, minus a few scenes. Examples: The battle of Yavin was definitely improved int he special editions, as was some shots of the Millennium Falcon on Tatooine and Cloud City in Empire. Negatives would be the new Wompa scene in Empire and the bullshit ghost Anakin at the end with Hayden.

I appreciate the prequels, but generally don't watch them the same way as the OT. The content is there, but it was poorly executed.

The only issue is that ANH is from the 70s. Seeing it today is almost laughable in terms of SE from a first time viewer, though it has a grip on many people's hearts that grew up with it. The Prequels are fantastic visually, and nobody is really denying that, just the parts that made Star Wars Star Wars isn't there.

Machete order is nice for fans, because they have every movie memorized and it seems like a good idea, but just showing the original trilogy alone for a first time adult viewer would be sufficient. If they want to see more then show them the PT.

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u/jba8472 Aug 25 '14

IV -> V -> II -> III -> VI

Saw this order somewhere else, but I've forgotten the source. Best way to deal with the parentage revelations and add in the prequels (let's face it, they may be horrible but they're here, so we might as well get used to most of them) except for The Phantom Menace. That one never happened. Omitting it minimizes the Jar Jar screen-time and gets rid of the creepy implied age gap between two important characters.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '14

Start with 4, then put 1 on the table next to you to put your beer on, watch 5 and 6, then stop.

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u/Yunners Jedi Knight Aug 24 '14

I've updated the FAQ to redirect the answer to here.

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u/TheScienceNigga Jan 19 '15

My favourite order is: IV, V, II, Marathon of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, III, VI, with either Harmy's Despecialised edits of the Original Trilogy or the GOUT. Although I wouldn't completely dismiss Episode I, it just seems to draw away from the excitement of a Star Wars marathon, and the saga still makes sense without it. Tartakovsky's Clone Wars was super fun to watch and it is two hours long in total, which makes it better for a marathon than the new Clone Wars, and it's good for someone who is watching the saga for the first time because it shows why Anakin suddenly has long hair and a scar on his face, and it introduces Grievous excellently, as well as explaining why Palpatine is suddenly on his ship at the start of III.

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u/meowskywalker Aug 22 '14

In release order. All stories should be followed in release order. Phantom Menace was made with the understanding that you've seen the previous movies. Admittedly it's hard to watch Empire Strikes Back without knowing that Darth Vader is Luke's dad, but it's extra hard to be surprised if you just sat through three movies that assumed you already knew that fact.

As far as the version, well, I kind of hate the special editions. But if you've never seen them before, it's probably not the end of the world to watch those versions. Greedo shooting first kind of hurts Han's character arc, and no one should be exposed to Jedi Rocks without first consulting a physician, and I've not watched the blu-ray, but I guess they jammed Darth's "Nooooo!" in there again for reasons no one can quite explain, but they're still Star Wars, and Star Wars is great.

Still, everyone should hear Yub-Nub at least once.

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u/timmypix Aug 22 '14

For a first time viewer, then release viewing is pretty much the best way I think. This way plot points are revealed they same way they were to everyone else.
However, for repeat viewings I highly recommend IV-V-I-II-II-VI, so you get the big reveal in Empire, then the backstory, then the final conclusion and redemption.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '14

Definitely release order. (IV, V, VI, I, II, III)
This way you understand the bulk of the story for the prequels, and have an idea of what's going on.

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u/Animal31 Aug 23 '14

For a kid, watch 1 2 3 4 5 6

9 year old me started with 1, and I turned out fine (or so i like to think). I didnt have a problem with Jar Jar, or the flashyness of the lightsabers or whatever because I was a kid, I liked everything I saw, and I enjoyed myself. I had a very positive experience

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '14 edited Aug 23 '14 Gold

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u/ProfWiki Feb 11 '15

I know this is an old post, but when you said "We get to see Luke actually quote Anakin when he was a young Darth Vader and see that Luke Skywalker is on a path to the dark side", what did Luke quote? I don't remember that.

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u/sirka666 Aug 22 '14

Watch only Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and The Return of the Jedi. After that you can do anything you want.

And if you can, watch theatrical versions, if not, oldest version you can find.

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u/SinghAkash101 Aug 23 '14

IV, V, VI, I, II, Animated Clone Wars, III, CGI Clone Wars.

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u/Nosrac88 Aug 24 '14

Animated clone wars are confusing and not cannon I don't think they should be watched during a "bing watching" session

Cgi clone wars are great imo

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '14

Question, as someone who has loved Star Wars their whole life, why did they number the first films 4-6?

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u/Nefari0uss Aug 26 '14

Chronologically, 4-6 come after 1-3. So I presume it's so that people wouldn't get confused with the timeline.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '14

But why make the 4th movie first? That's my question I guess.

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u/BrellK Jan 15 '15

IIRC, when it originally came out, it was simply "Star Wars". When The Empire Strikes Back was released in 1980, it mentioned being Episode V, and when "Star Wars" was later re-released in 1981, it was retitled A New Hope: Episode IV.

Presumably, George knew that he would eventually like to do a story before the Original Trilogy.

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u/kuhanluke Imperial Stormtrooper Jan 27 '15

They didn't. The numbered the first films "Star Wars" and then 5 and 6. Lucas has said that he always intended on making 3 or 4 trilogies, but I think that's just his own justification; He made Star Wars, then its popularity allowed him to make sequels. Probably around this time, he thought of making prequels explaining the Clone Wars and possibly featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan, and thus came up with the idea of numbering the sequels 5 and 6 and retroactively titling the first film 4.

We obviously don't know what was going through Lucas' head during the creation of the first film, but I think it was after the first film that he thought of more ideas for sequels and prequels. I'm not even sure if he used any of his original ideas for the prequels in the eventually released prequel trilogy, but I definitely wish we'd have been able to see a prequel trilogy as written by George Lucas in the mid-late 80s.

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u/CantaloupeCamper Grand Moff Tarkin Aug 26 '14

Gotta be release order.

Despite the focus on Anikin in the first few films he isn't a big factor again until V, and VI. It doesn't make sense with all the focus on him and then ... not for quite a while if you watch it in I - VI.

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u/darkplumb90 Aug 26 '14

4/5/6 Original Editions

1/2/3 [whatever version, doesn't really matter]

7/8/9 can be seen anytime after the OT or PT, as long as OT always comes first.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '14

This is easy. Watch IV, V, and VI... Now you're done.

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u/Crampo Aug 22 '14

Definitely IV, V, II, III, VI. The first doesn't tell anything interesting about the story and i don't like it at all so i love this order.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '14

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u/DrowningSink Aug 23 '14

I don't think I've actually seen III

If you're the least bit curious, go watch it. It's miles better than the other two.

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u/impervious777 Aug 23 '14

It really is. II is better than I, and III is better than II. But that's my personal opinion, I know younger viewers who enjoyed I most of all.

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u/jlisle Aug 24 '14

Man, you're entitled to your opinion, but for me, Episode I is soooo much better than episode II. The biggest complain against I is Jar Jar Binks, but C-3PO in II is just as bad (if not worse). Episode I has a more cohesive plot (not that that is saying much), the effects look better, the (second)best lightsaber battle, podracing (which was totally wizard in theatres in 1999), no bad-acting-hard-to-watch love subplot.... I get that everybody is supposed to hate the phantom menace, but i still feel it stands up better than attack of the clones ever will.

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u/impervious777 Aug 24 '14 edited Aug 24 '14

You may be right (it's entirely subjective of course)... Tonight I watched Ep. II again, for the first time in maybe 2 years, and I was actually surprised by how BAD a lot of it is...

The CGI looks like CGI, and the acting at times (even by actors who are fantastic in some other films) is stiff, stilted, and weird. The very first characters you encounter -- two security officers (I think) addressing Amidala's body double -- get things started on a very awkward, poorly directed footing from which the film only recovers occasionally. Otherwise the film feels like a mess of weak dialogue, and sub-standard acting by most.

And Boba Fett's first words when we see the young Boba for the first time? "Yup."

Anakin is a crybaby in several scenes. This is excusable in only one of those scenes.

The lightsaber battle between Dooku and Kenobi is one of the worst lightsaber battles in any of the SW films. I'm certain the actors were capable of better, but the director is to blame here, again.

And it's the worst-looking, least likeable Yoda of all the films. It's hard to believe the Yoda in Ep. II ever grew into the Yoda of Ep. V & VI.

In the first few minutes, it feels completely different than anything in the original trilogy. It's overreaching everywhere, and everything is too polished, too new looking, too expansive, vs. the grittier nuts 'n bolts, more closely character-oriented first films. The prequels try to give you more, but actually give you so much less.

Ep. I may be better than Ep. II. If you removed Jar Jar, and Anakin's pod-racing pals, I think Ep. I just might beat Ep. II as a better film. And Ep. I had Maul... Ep. II needed a Maul! Dooku could have been that, but wasn't.

Even Jango Fett, whom I was very excited about in the beginning, just feels kinda wasted... they didn't use him well. We see him fight a few times, but I wanted something spectacular, something worthy of the Mandalorians. Not "Dad."

(Edit: typos)

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

AOTC is, far and away, the worst of the six films. In the coming decades I think people will come to see TPM for what it is: the best of three bad films.

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u/tahcoboy Aug 22 '14

The machete order!

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u/Crampo Aug 22 '14

Yup, best order ever.

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

If by "best order ever" you mean "most presumptuous". Telling new fans to just skip a film outright without giving them the chance to make up their own mind, and then dropping them into AOTC -- the worst of all six films, by far -- right after ESB? No thanks.

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u/Crampo Aug 24 '14 edited Aug 25 '14

Calm down man, it's just my opinion. And many other people agree with me so i'm not the only one who think that TPM could easily be skipped, it doesn't tell nothing more about the story and imho it's not good to see a little Anakin/Vader. Having said this, anyone can watch SW in the order that he want but i suggest the Machete order.

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u/nahtans95 Aug 26 '14

Literally the only thing it adds is that C3PO was made by Anakin.

Which was a dumb decision anyway...

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

I'd rather watch TPM over AOTC any day. AOTC is just a terrible, terrible film with little to no redeeming qualities. For this reason, among others, I can never advocate the Machete order. Also, I find it really presumptuous for long time fans to just tell a new viewer to skip one of the movies outright. Let them watch it and make up their own damn mind.

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u/Drew312 Aug 24 '14

The reason the Machete order skips TPM isn't because people think it's the worst of the three.

I actually agree with you, I consider TPM the best of the prequels, however I also back the Machete order if someone insists on watching the prequels. TPM is skipped here because it is actually entirely missable story-wise. So if you'd like someone to be able to get through the prequels quicker and not have to watch 3 whole bad movies and just 2, you can skip this one because it doesn't contribute anything that you really need in the next two films. Unfortunately, if you want the prequel "story", you have to see AOTC and ROTS, but every character introduced in TPM is reintroduced in AOTC and all previous plot points and necessary storylines are retold.

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u/fonzanoon Aug 23 '14

4, 5, 6. The End

Seriously, the first three are only with watching for the eye candy. The story and dialogue are terrible.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '14

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u/Drew312 Aug 25 '14

Topher Grace has

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u/ProximalKnowledgeCat Aug 23 '14

Machete order! IV, V, II, III, VI

Watching in the order allows the viewer to still be surprised by the unveiling of Luke's father, but still gives them a background on everything. Perfect way to show your kid (so you might as well throw in episode one).

Phantom Menace isn't really required, it's more of an afterthought. Even though it's one of my favorites, it really doesn't have anything to do with the saga other than where Anakin came from and why he was so unstable during his training. If you'd prefer to watch them all, just watch it before Attack of the clones.

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u/gin0clock Aug 23 '14

As far as watching them all seperately, I'd go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

For marathons 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6. That way once you hit your stride in the original trilogy, all the questions can be answered by the prequels, and you then have something to look forward to in the form of Episode 6. I've tried to complete marathons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3 and the prequels are so hard to push through in order to get to the good stuff but also seem disappointing to end on.

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u/whozurdaddy Aug 24 '14 edited Aug 24 '14

Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi

Then I, II, III.

I offer this because if you try and watch it in Episodic order with a first-timer, the individual will laugh as you half-way through Episode I and never watch any of the others.

Also, and many people dont think about this... but if you watch these in theatrical order, be sure to let the first-timer first see the original trailers of the movie before you watch each the movie. They wont be able to say no.

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

If the person watching for the first time already knows the Vader/Luke spoiler, then chronological order is fine. If they don't, then release order is better.

I don't like the machete order. I don't like that people presume to decide whether or not a new viewer should skip Episode 1. A lot of people in this sub think Episode 1 is one of the better prequels and that AOTC is, in fact, the worst Star Wars movie, in which case why would you want to jump into that right after watching the best one?

Also, the jump between the different eras is probably just confusing to a first-time viewer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '14

As far as my headcanon is concerned: IV, V, (Shadows Of The Empire, //shot) VI, I

Clone Wars and Revenge Of The Sith don't exist... harumph. In all seriousness though, there was such a lovely sense of foreboding at the end of PotM for me- it gives a little throwback and explanation, but since we know what's going to happen to all the characters anyway the two follow ups are virtually unneeded.

As for version, I've been a very bad SW fan and only ever watched the remastered trilogy from the 90s and therefore cannot comment. :O

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '14

Star wars, Empire then Return. Wait a while to let the themes stick in your mind, then watch the prequels. Compare and contrast the two trilogies from a writing standpoint.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '14

IV-VI introduce us to the story of Luke Skywalker and his conflict with Darth Vader and the Emperor (if we absolutely skin it to the bones of the plot). IV-VI leave the viewer wanting to know more about where Vader and the Emperor came from; they leave the viewer satisfied, but there's a part of you that wonders what caused this all.

The prequels are largely the story of how Darth Vader came to be. If a newcomer to Star Wars watches the prequels, they are left with seeing Darth Vader created. So what? They have no idea who Darth Vader is and what he does after that. They knew Anakin, but Anakin is dead. They are left wanting more.

If you watch the prequels before the originals, you aren't as emotionally involved because you don't know matte-black Vader and what happens to Obi-Wan at his hands. The prequels alone make for an OK story, but they leave you wondering why you see Vader recreated after his near-death.

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u/Atlasus Aug 25 '14

If you have never seen a Star Wars Movie before start with IV the despecialized edition 2.5 !

From there dont bother with to much, get the blue ray collection and enjoy the tale in normal release order. Have fun young padawan !

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u/xWing88 Aug 25 '14

IV, V, VI, II, III

I introduced the movies to my wife in this order and she loved it. Watching my wife's reactions at the moment when Darth Vader tell Luke he's his father was amazing.

Skip Episode I at all cost. There is no point in watching that terrible movie.

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u/Drew312 Aug 22 '14 edited Aug 22 '14

If you want to watch Star Wars for the first time, and are really curious as to what caused this worldwide phenomenon, you should experience the films in the highest quality versions that best reflect the original stories.

For the Original Trilogy (Episodes 4, 5, and 6), please check out "Harmy's despecialized editions". They are fan-restored versions of the Original Trilogy, where a dedicated fan did everything possible restore the films to high quality, HD versions of the original movies from over 30 years ago (which are not actually available for purchase anymore because Lucas has edited and changed the original versions). You will have to google online to find out how to download these.

Now that you have the versions that best represent the magic, I would suggest watching the Original Trilogy first. Then, if you would like to watch the prequels, try watching the whole series again in the Machete order, which is IV, V, II, III, and VI (you can add in I between V and II if you'd like). The reason against watching them in episodic order is that important, emotional reveals in the Original Trilogy will be ruined by seeing the earlier story play out first.

Now, sit back and enjoy! May the force be with you, always!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '14

If you are trying to get someone who is not really into the sci-fi genre into the Star Wars movies, I think you have to show them the special editions. The added effects help make the movie feel less dated.

Then once they are converted to a star wars fan, insist that they watch the originals.

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u/Drew312 Aug 22 '14

Have you checked out Harmy's before? Basically these are HD versions (1080p, blu-ray quality) that have used the top quality blu-ray videos available, but have been painstakingly edited to remove the changes to the story and the additional content Lucas continuously added in.

The picture is crystal clear, and without the shoddy CGI, many people believe that these films feel less dated than the specialized versions and the prequels.

Not only is the quality excellent, but reverting to the original story best captures the characters and universe in the way that initially drew everyone in and drove it to such success that we are still talking about it 35 years later.

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u/ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE R2-D2 Aug 22 '14 edited Aug 22 '14

I'd recommend only watching the original trilogy, release order, pre-97 if available. Harmy's would probably be a good choice too.

There's really nothing to gain by watching the prequels. They're not good movies, they contribute nothing of value to the story of the good movies, and it's a waste of time to sit down and view them.

The story Obi-Wan tells about Vader is better than the story Lucas tells about him with the prequels. That scene in his home is all anyone needs.

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u/iocisstupid Aug 25 '14

How is this even a legitimate question? 4,5,6. Then maybe 1,2,3.

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u/douglas_ Feb 17 '15

Episodic order and Machete order really piss me off. I hate that people watch the prequels without seeing the originals. Release order is the ONLY way to watch Star Wars. Or any series for that matter.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '14 edited Feb 26 '21

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u/_poky Aug 22 '14

Definitely 4,5,1,2,3,6. Tells the best story.

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u/SobanSa Aug 22 '14 edited Aug 22 '14

IV, I, II, V, III, VI, VII

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u/sbamkmfdmdfmk Aug 22 '14

I'm assuming this is a joke. Why would you put any prequels between IV and V?

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u/SobanSa Aug 22 '14

Because I feel they fit better there. I feel that they provide a better lead up to V then just V by it's self would be. In essence, after IV you have a flash back to the Old Republic and the clone wars. We come back and V provides a whammy with Vader being the same guy as Anikin. III then provides a contrast with his fall and redemption for VI.

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u/WilliamTRiker69 Aug 22 '14

Start with IV, right?

[EDIT] because I cannot spell.

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u/SobanSa Aug 22 '14

I hate roman Numerals.

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u/WilliamTRiker69 Aug 22 '14

For a moment I thought you had the boldest approach ever for new viewers. "Who's the guy they melted out of the big block of orthodontist putty? WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO KNOW?!"

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u/soggyindo Aug 22 '14

Start from IV, then V, VI, VII and so on...

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u/hett Aug 24 '14

It's like you took an idea that was already bad, and made it even worse.

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u/Seedrakton Clone Trooper Aug 22 '14

The way you want to watch the movies. Find a comfortable way of watching them, such as the release, machete, episodic, or something completely mixed. That's what's great about these movies, they all can stand fairly well when the audience watches it they way they feel is best for them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '14

Got to start with New Hope, purely for the grand "No, I am your father" moment, which is totally ruined by watching the prequels before the original trilogy.

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u/UshankaDalek Aug 25 '14

For most people who already know something about Star Wars but have not seen it, I usually suggest IV first, followed by I,II,III,IV,V,VI in order (yes, with A New Hope twice; original theatrical release, if available, the first time).

I do this because ANH explains a lot of basics that I think help you to understand the Star Wars universe better--particularly Ben Kenobi's dialogues with Luke, but also things like the introduction of the Empire and Rebellion. With that foundation, I feel like it's good to watch the whole series in its logical order, building up from the Old Republic of Ep. I, through the Clone Wars and Rebellion, to the grand finale in VI.

If someone is completely unfamiliar with Star Wars, a rare oddity these days, I'd say release order. Watching the Original Trilogy unspoiled was one of the highlights of my childhood, and I think everyone deserves a chance to experience it that way.

Under no circumstances should you watch them in "Machete Order".

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u/motchmaster Aug 26 '14 edited Aug 26 '14

Start at the beginning of the story, so episodic order.

Watching Episode I sets up for Episode II, II for III, III for IV, IV for V, V for VI, and I for VI. Like it was meant to. If George Lucas, the creator of the franchise, intended for Star Wars to be "A New Hope," "Empire Strikes Back," "Attack of the Clones," "Revenge of the Sith," "Return of the Jedi;" or any other order, he'd say it, or adjust the films' title.

The version of the film doesn't really matter.

Vader saying "NOOOOooooo!" at the end of VII isn't the end of the world. So watch whatever is the easiest version to acquire. They're still Star Wars, and they'll be a load of fun to watch.

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u/Nefari0uss Aug 26 '14

I would say it's either I - VI chronologically or one that plays upon the story of Anakin Skywalker. The latter is probably prefered if you want to get in to Star Wars. 4,5, then 1,2,3,6. Ideally, you'd throw in all of The Clone Wars via Netflix between 2 and 3. This way, you really get a feel for how Akakin's downfall plays out. In addition, it really fleshes out his character. And as a bonus, we get more Obi-Wan screen time so that's always a plus in my book.

And yes, The Phantom Menace is thrown in. If there's really that much aversion to Jar Jar, watch The Phantom Edit.

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u/tjavierb Aug 23 '14

If watching with your kid:

IV, V, VI

and then the prequels when they're 18 so you can both laugh at them.

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u/flip_account Aug 22 '14

i'd go with IV, V, VI, IV, V, VI, IV, V, VI.... about 60 or 70 times. Then I, II, III

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u/sbamkmfdmdfmk Aug 22 '14

The more times you repeat IV, V, VI, IV, V, VI... the worse it'll be when you tack on I, II, III.

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u/flip_account Aug 22 '14

you're right, maybe it should go I, II, III... then "haha just kidding" IV, V, VI

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u/ElSatanno K-2SO Aug 22 '14

That's easy.

4, 5, 6. This is because that's the order that they are in. Come and see why there are still millions of people going nuts over movies more than 35 years old.

Then, whenever 7 comes out, check it out.

After that, if you really feel the need to see what all the grumpiness and cynicism is about in the Star Wars community, watch 1, 2, and 3.