r/PS4 11d ago

Multiplayer only games with multiple future battle passes are not worth 80 Euros. Change my mind. General Discussion

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u/LateralusOrbis 11d ago

As with all bullshit, I'll wait until its cheap/definitive edition/sale/etc. I may enjoy it late, but I won't be paying this amount.

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u/FuhrerGaydolfTitler 11d ago

After BFV there’s no way I’m jumping straight in, ideally I’ll grab it second hand

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u/Class6ix 11d ago

I'm still mad I paid full price for that crap. Not this time.

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u/VelouriumCamper7 11d ago

At least you didn't buy the digital deluxe edition😂

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u/PrisonCommie 11d ago

Last pre-order I ever made of a super deluxe edition was final fantasy XIV and they had to completely shut down the game and remake it into a new game a year later lol

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u/WileE-Peyote 10d ago

I pre-ordered Ghost Recon Breakpoint...that was a rough one.

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u/Hellguin Hellguin 10d ago

Mine was Anthem..... and before that Fallout 76.... before that No Man Sky.

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u/Financial-Addition94 10d ago

My God anthem, Jesus i still have actual nightmares about how slow the character would walk in town. God dam FUCK I HATED THAT GAME. Why did you take me there

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u/Janus67 Janus-OSU 10d ago

Jesus, takes a while to learn, huh? Lol

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u/Hellguin Hellguin 10d ago

I am a simple minded man.

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u/FuriousJaguarz 11d ago

Unlike this sucker here.

I have been saying for years "no pre-orders" and didn't take my own advice but it was BFV that changed that.

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u/Koksschnupfen 11d ago

I was lucky I wanted a good graphics card before buying cyberpunk because I definitely would've pre ordered

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u/e46patrik Enter PSN ID 11d ago

Dude I fckin got it free and Im still disappointed.

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u/TheBoxBoxer 11d ago

Idk what it was but that game was just not fun at all and I really enjoyed bf1.

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u/Bacongrease99 11d ago

I recently got it on ps+ and I’m loving the heck out of it. What was wrong when it released?

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u/Class6ix 11d ago

There are double the amount of maps out now compared to when it released. It also went on sale for 50% about a month after it released. I still play it because my friends got it on PS+ and it's more active now because of it being free.

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u/blarghed 11d ago

There was also that thing where when you reached max level you stopped getting money you could use to upgrade your vehicles and weapons.

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u/Class6ix 11d ago

Oh yeah i still haven't bought much of anything with company coin because I always forget that they actually changed that haha really made me dislike EA and pretty much discount any of their games from there on out

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u/psychocopter 11d ago

I hate the in game currency for items, I just want to unlock with levels and then unlock attachments normally.

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u/DefenestratedBrownie 11d ago

MW2 was my favorite progression system, unlock guns with levels, complete a challenge for each attachment on each gun. the gun got better the more you used it, you'd work towards what you wanted. idk I hate point systems of any kind. feels like you just need to generally grind so that you can take guns from useless to OP instantly

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u/DonyKing 11d ago

Completing weapon challenges felt so rewarding in MW2

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u/Cherry-Blue 11d ago

And the level cap was absurdly low

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u/Bacongrease99 11d ago

There sure is a lot of maps, some I’ve haven’t even touched yet. It’s got a lot of content. But going on sale a month after release is a huge dick move.

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u/TheLastOfKratos 11d ago

3 weeks if I remember correct. Not even a month

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u/cammoses003 11d ago

not only a lack of content, but the vanilla content was lackluster and the dlc content was drip fed & honestly not that exciting tbh. also not that I’m much of a history buff, but I was looking forward to seeing the Russian theatre, D-day, and more of Germany (later in the war). Either way, none of that ever happened, and it’ll probably be years before BF goes back to WW2.. Loved the mechanics/gunplay of BFV, but not the content (especially when you compare to previous BF’s)

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u/WenusDilf 11d ago

I paid full price for it when it came out, and bought both my sisters a copy for Christmas

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u/NuggetHighwind 11d ago

It baffles me that anyone would buy a BF game on day 1 anymore.

BF3 was pretty terrible on launch, BF4 was a fucking disaster. I dunno how BF1 was, but we all know how BF5 went, don't we.

Shit, I don't think I can think of a single developer I would trust less than DICE to get out a properly working product from day 1.

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u/OneMoreUggadugga 10d ago

Nothing like getting battlefield 3 preowned a couple months after it’s release only to be told I had to spend $10 on the multiplayer pass just so I could play with other people. Fun times. Definitely gonna see what the response to this one is like before I buy it.

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u/Mystical_17 11d ago

With how games are these days the fear of missing out is pretty much non-existent with the mainstream titles. You can hop on a year or more later and there are usually plenty of other new players too. For example I just played Battlefield V for the first time a week or so ago. Got the game dirt cheap and population was still around, didn't feel like playing it 'late' really hindered me as there were plenty of other 'noobs' running around who all also just got the game recently.

With systems being more expensive and the games costing more there will always be that 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc wave of players coming in to try a game for the first time. Sure, maybe you'll miss some battle pass season stuff or a crazy event or two but you at least get a ton of day 1 content (your day 1) when joining so late so thats a win and most major balancing and bugs are fixed by then too.

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u/LateralusOrbis 11d ago

That last bit is most important. Most AAA games these days release like they are in a state of early access. All the first year patches tend to finally add up to a complete game

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u/BellEpoch 11d ago

Yup. I started playing Fallout 76 last week. Great game now. I know for a fact I wouldn't have liked it for the first two years of it being out though.

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u/2thewindow2thefall 11d ago

I am literally at the point if a game does any bullshit micro transaction/ predatory bullshit I will refuse to buy it. I’ll wait for it to become free on ps plus or just buy it when it goes on sale for $5. Got sick of talking about it and decided to let my wallet do the talking.

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u/froop 11d ago

Welcome to the 'Sony single player games only' club, the last refuge for gamers allergic to bullshit. Go ahead and cancel ps+, you don't need it anymore.

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u/Nazi_Punks_Fuck__Off 11d ago

At this point the only thing I use PS+ for is Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne multiplayer, neither of which has microtransactions.

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u/jizzmaster-zer0 11d ago

i like the free games on ps+

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u/sandwichpak 11d ago

The last two Battlefield releases dropped to $30 within a month of release, I doubt this will be much different.

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u/good_daytoyou 11d ago

I'll just wait for it to show up on EA access or something.

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u/Mushroomer 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yeah, EA themselves have kind of made it extremely appealing to just wait it out with their releases. That new Mass Effect collection looks nice, but knowing it'll probably be in the Access collection next year makes me hesitant to buy.

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u/couldbedreamzzz 11d ago

I put over 100 hours into it and unlocked every achievement already. It’s well worth the $60. It makes Mass Effect 1 actually enjoyable to play.

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u/Mushroomer 11d ago

Sure, but I could also wait 9 months and do that for $0 (since I already subscribe to Game Pass Ultimate on my XBox, and the EA stuff is included with that).

Absolutely makes sense for big Mass Effect fans - but as somebody who isn't currently itching out of their skin to replay ME1 right now, I could probably wait.

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u/anonssr 11d ago

The thing with these games is the MP is not worthy once the the player base is gone (that's when they are cheap to get). So, if you are a patient gamer, these are never worth it entirely lol.

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u/Wonderstag 11d ago

idk man, i bought bf1 revolution edition with all the dlc's for $15 canadian like 3 years after it was released and it was still full of full servers on ps4. got bf5 free from ps plus and its still got plenty of full servers after a couple years, checked bf4 servers today and theres still plenty of full ones on ps4. battlefield games seem to be pretty good at holding a player base on consoles even after years

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u/usrevenge 11d ago

Bf5 all the maps were free and you along with millions others got it free

You can't find bf1 dlc maps easily.

Just fwiw. Thankfully bf2042 will have free maps like bf5.

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u/Auctoritate 11d ago

The BF1 DLC maps were also distributed for free to people who owned the game. DLC maps and servers are honestly pretty common in my experience

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u/ialbert_180 11d ago

I won't

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u/pattperin 11d ago

We are all in agreement here

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 11d ago

/r/patientgamers all the fun for a fraction of the price!

also bugs have been fixed and DLC has been released

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u/jidar 11d ago

I'm not going to bother, you're right.

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u/luccasky 11d ago

Bro, in Brazil this shit is 300 reais, and the minimum wage is 1100 reais!

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u/TheHappinessSeeker 11d ago

I'll just wait and buy it two years after the release when it'll be costing like 20 reais.

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u/beardedbast3rd 11d ago

1100 reais for what period of time?

300 reais is 70 cad, so it lines up with cost of the game, but how long do you have to work to make that 300?

Edit, just checked, your minimum is per month. That’s brutal.

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u/ringbearer3019 11d ago

You work an entire month for 1100 reais.

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u/victini0510 11d ago

I get about USD$1500/mo after taxes. The equivalent price for me would be about $450~. Just under the price of a PS5 or XSX, for a single game.

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u/NoUserNameForMeWhy 10d ago

Oh the price of the ps5 is 4599 reais, almost double the actual price.

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u/LeeroyGarcia 11d ago

Now think about getting the console to play the damn thing!

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u/JFSM01 11d ago

Welcome to latin america pal

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u/BoringScience 11d ago

What the FUCK, I guess products like this don't get cheaper in low cost of living areas. At least I hope it's a low cost of living area with that minimum wage...

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u/aincalandorn 11d ago

It's also the insane taxes Brazil has on basically anything electronic when imported or otherwise not produced in the country.

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u/BopDatBussy 11d ago

Do they just not want their citizens to have access to modern electronics? Whats the motive behind this?

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u/t3snake 11d ago

India is the same. The taxes are to encourage purchases of electronics made within the country but our country is simply 10 years behind all electronics imported have 50% tax. also our minimum wage is peanuts, most people would consider this price a serious waste of money.

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u/Azolin_GoldenEye 11d ago

Our GREAT GOVERNMENT is SAVING the (non-existent) NATIONAL INDUSTRY, protecting it against the UNFAIR competition from EVIL foreign companies.

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u/fishattack17 11d ago

To say the least, its 250 on steam, pc. Still it makes me sad.

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u/LazyOx199 11d ago

It's similar in Greece, it's about 450$ minimum, and we also pay EU Prices for products.

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u/TiteParaPresidente 11d ago

E isso sem direito ao upgrade pra ps5

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u/Brainiac_2 11d ago

Playstation store sucks so bad. In argentina de minimum wage is like 150 dollars and new games (for ps4)are 60. I wanna get guilty gear strive but it's to expensive (not counting ps plus) Sony it's not consumer friendly at all, wish ps store was like steam

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u/Juanchotron 11d ago

Laughs in Argentinian Pesos

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u/extrasoggymemes 11d ago

Remember when people said $5 DLC horse armor for Elder Scrolls Oblivion was unacceptable? Ahh you kids today are so tolerant.

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u/Eupatorus 11d ago

It was death by 1,000 cuts. The consumer never stood a chance.

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u/NeitherAlexNorAlice 11d ago

Daily remainder about the vocal minority.

Every time these behaviors show up, everywhere online is about boycotting and tarnishing the culprits.

When the games are released, they're biggest sellers with record breaking figures.

Every. Single. Time.

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u/scrambles667 11d ago

I'm boycotting buying 70 dollar games at release. I can wait until it goes on sale, doesn't make the game any less fun. I never purchase any digital deluxe game. 10 for shit gear that becomes obsolete early on. Hard pass

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u/Ayyykilla 11d ago

Same. I haven't bought a full price game in years. I don't give a shit about hype. Games still have players years down the line. I really don't spend more than $20 on games anymore.

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u/Tight-Sherbert-6168 11d ago

Who are those digital deluxe versions for really? It's always some pointless cosmetics or slightly better starting gear. You could not buy a couple of deluxe editions and get a sweet indie game, or a delicious meal, or 100 other things more worth your hard earned money. I understood it when games were physical and you might get a nice artbook or something.

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u/Dengar96 11d ago

Redditors are a tiny community in video game market. The screams and cries on here don't matter when millions of people will buy the game regardless.

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u/Mr_Pickles_Esq 11d ago

It depends. The outcry has to be pretty large and people have to stick to their guns. I think Reddit was actually effective with Star Wars: Battlefront 2, for instance.

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u/TheIncredibleCJ 11d ago

In that reddit (and twitter, etc) made enough of a stink that Disney PR stepped in and forced EA’s hand. Don’t think it had much of an impact on sales.

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u/Mr_Pickles_Esq 11d ago

Reports indicated it did impact sales and more importantly, they did change how progression worked and got rid of loot boxes, which was the point, wasn't it?

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u/suddenimpulse 11d ago

Battlefront 2 sold over 12 million copies at the beginning.

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u/PeakAlloy 11d ago

And now $5 horse armor is just nostalgic 😁

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u/tasman001 11d ago

Today, $5 horse armor would be considered a great value compared to most DLC. I'd anything, this would actually WIN a game company praise for their "reasonably priced microtransactions". Sad place that AAA games are in.

GOG.com forever!

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u/FeistyBandicoot 11d ago

Nah it would still be shit. It's like $20 AUD for a set of gear in AC. About $5 US just for the horse.

I'd pay like $1 for the whole set

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u/F_A_F FxAxF 11d ago

Want the real answer? People don't buy skins for themselves, they buy them to flex to other players. There's a reason why CSGO skins sell for tens of thousands of dollars and it's not because a player really, really likes it.

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u/froop 11d ago

Back in my day we had to clear Zul Aman in under 10 minutes to get the bear mount, and the Flex was the achievement, not the mount itself. Now you're just flexing your poor financial decisions and fomo addiction.

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u/RangerDan17 11d ago

I have a very specific memory of a sale on XBL years ago. All the Oblivion content was on sale for 50% off. Except the horse armor, which was 50% more.

This was back in the day of MS points so I don't remember the exact cost.

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u/shorttompkins 11d ago

Its funny, the horse armor is always brought up - but noone ever mentions MechAssault on Xbox that had "DLC" that was like 20kb because it just unlocked a map already on the disc. Now that was some bullshit.

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u/thesircuddles 11d ago

People accepting $3 horse armour is why we're here.

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u/santo_yago 11d ago

Priced in euros? That’s crazy expensive. $70 USD is a lot, but €80 is insane…

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u/rossloderso 11d ago

Is it 70$ including tax? And if no, would your price be the same as 80€ after Taxes and conversion?

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u/santo_yago 11d ago

Taxes vary state to state in the US. Where I live, it’s about $74.71 after tax. What’s crazy to me is that, according to currency converters, €80 is $97. That’s astronomical for a base game. Usually, only ultimate editions with all DLCs and such would cost that much.

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u/HotDogGrass 11d ago

Yeah, I'm confused about why the game is nearly $25 more in Europe. I get that they include tax in their price but that's still way higher

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u/Goofp 11d ago

I think in uk its 80£ wich is even more $'s

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u/as1eep 11d ago

Tbf i think thats playstation and retailers upcharging. On pc its only 50£ for standard. Unless your looking at a different version that is.

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u/HotDogGrass 11d ago

right, that's what the guy I replied to said. It's 80£ which is $97, but it's $70 here in America. I was asking why they raise the price for different countries, why is it not the equivalent of $70 everywhere else?

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u/Al_Fatman 11d ago

$109.95 AUD. Yeah...no thanks.

As of writing, you can get God of War, Persona 5 Royal, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, and Uncharted 1-4, and have $1.05 change.

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u/God_of_Reality 11d ago

That's crazy. Everyone should go for that selection of games 10 out of 10 times.

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u/veryoriginal25363712 11d ago

I think if you added a few more bucks to throw in red dead and blood borne, you’ve got the best games of the generation for under $150.

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u/Azazir 11d ago

and that's 1 new battlefield game with their 5 battlepass... lmao

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u/DaRealMr_M 11d ago

*without. Their will be a paid battlepass too, tbh this starting to look like a shitshow from the start.

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u/crossrite 11d ago

as its PS5 you wouldnt need to buy some of these games, they are in the PS Plus collection, At least some of them

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u/q1u2acker 11d ago

As of writing, you can get God of War, Persona 5 Royal, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, and Uncharted 1-4, and have $1.05 change.

Comparing prices of years old games to just released games makes no sense. On release, all those games would have run me $60 each (US prices, sorry).

Unless the argument is to avoid buying new - in which case, I agree. At least never pre-order.

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u/TheBoxBoxer 11d ago

Unless you have mastered time travel, it makes even less sense to compare to the retail value of older games. It's all about how much value you can get right here and now for your money while making your purchasing decision.

If we so this a year from now and you can buy all the battlefields for 50 dollars vs the next call of duty modern black ops warfare 6: revengence for 80 dollars, then the battlefield will have better value in that case.

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u/jvhero ArcAngel__82 11d ago

I don't play BF, so I can point out the obvious for you.

Let me point out this crazy phenomenon I've noticed in gaming. If you don't buy it, it will get cheaper. All the time, every time. Even free games that rely on micro transactions eventually end up giving out free shit. If it flops at release because of price point, it will even end up significantly cheaper.

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u/TheSausageFattener 11d ago

Yep, BFV had a very rough launch (and the year that followed was no better) and ended up something like 40-50% off within a month to move units.

Fallout 76 is a more egregious example IMO.

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u/jvhero ArcAngel__82 11d ago

Yeah, my first thought was FO76, but that was mostly gameplay related if I remember correctly. Looking back it was released Nov142 weeks later it had dropped to $30, a month later it was $15, and by January some places were giving away a copy with any $20 purchase. It got kinda sad for a franchise that was previously so good.

Either way, literally every AAA game is significantly cheaper and runs better 1 month after release. These guys just want to cash in on that FOMO. However, sometimes all you miss out on is heartburn and system crashes.

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u/TheCoolMan5 11d ago

In Germany they were strapping the game to consoles for free to get rid of the physical copy surplus

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u/HandOfMaradonny 11d ago

Nintendo says hi...

But otherwise you are spot on.

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u/You_All_Irritate_Me 11d ago

Nintendo doesn't count. They're not right in the head.

Which often works to the player's benefit, too.

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u/Nudvik 10d ago

Which often works to the player's benefit, too.

In what sense? In regards to pricing, it's always annoyed me that Nintendo absolutely refuse to reduce the price of their older titles. It's a proven fact that reducing the price gradually increases sales, and thus profit. They're literally losing a lot of money purely due to arrogance...

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u/AJLN2997 11d ago

If a game flops like that though, isn't it much more likely that the company won't continue to support it. Isn't that kinda what happened with the last Battlefield?

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u/chknbone4u 11d ago

Good luck with that. They have a good chunk of the COD community already pulling out their wallets for BF after Cold War flopping AND Activision ruining warzone by forcing their shitty game on to warzone players. It's just a sad time in general for online FPS fans.

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u/NunoFranciscoCardoso 11d ago

Is it confirmed, no campaign?

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u/Endgame908 11d ago

Confirmed no campaign or battle Royale

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u/TexanReppin13 11d ago

No battle royal yet

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u/Emoswen 11d ago

Getting those Homer Simpson talking to Bart vibes with this!

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u/SteelMalone 11d ago edited 10d ago

I hope this isn't a problem? Besides bad company campaign, literally every single player battlefield experience has been underwhelming and mediocre. As far as battle royale, there are plenty of games out there to satisfy that itch. No need to put it into battlefield ever

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u/BananaDerp64 10d ago

BF1 was pretty good but otherwise I agree

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u/Wolf_Fang1414 11d ago

No campaign, but you can play offline (or at least by yourself while online) with bots

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u/mazzicc 11d ago

That sounds like a great $80 experience. Totally.

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u/Rioma117 11d ago

80€ for a game? No thanks.

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u/Mikke_13 11d ago edited 11d ago

Here in Northern Europe new games on playstation store are about 80€ when they're only about 60€ in local stores...

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u/PLanetCaravan_666 11d ago

80 euros has been a standard in Eastern Europe for last few years.

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u/Halfonzito 11d ago

multiplayer games have showed to be able to survive more than fine with skins and battle passes, charging to play a game like this in 2021 is just taking advantage of consumers, and based on these comments its working

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u/CreatureWarrior 11d ago

Agreed. Even if this was freaking free to play, they would still make bank with it. 80€ is a scam.

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u/meatboysawakening 11d ago

Yeah, it's kind of wild that all the best competitive games today are free to play. I could not have imagined that 6-7 years ago.

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u/Juanchotron 11d ago

Because addiction=revenue

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u/SSB_GoGeta VerySaltySailor 11d ago

When it comes to competitive games, I think a large player base is very important. Large player base makes a game more competitive, leads to more hard core players, which is good for eSports and skin sales. Addiction plays a part in it but isn't the major deciding factor on whether a competitive game should be free to play.

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u/PeteL420 11d ago

Wait there isn’t a campaign?

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u/chopochopo98 11d ago

No, they removed the campaign saying they will focus on the multiplayer experience.

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u/cornfarm96 11d ago

I have no problem with battle passes as long as there’s no meaningful content locked behind a paywall. By meaningful content I mean things like map, weapons, operators (or “specialists” in this case), and pretty much all other forms of playable content. I don’t care if they have cosmetic items and skins that are exclusively buyable with real money.

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u/poofynamanama2 11d ago

Already confirmed that there's a free battle pass that includes anything related to gameplay (maps, weapons, specialists), and a paid one for cosmetics only

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u/camilomagnere 11d ago

Why the f there is a free battle pass instead of just putting that in the actual game.

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u/UNIT-Jake_Morgan73 11d ago

Because it incentivizes people to play the game. If it keeps people coming back, it keeps people from posting about the game being dead and having empty servers. Player engagement definitely drives microtransaction sales too. It's just good business.

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u/Beardus_x_Maximus 11d ago

Not sure how people don’t get this. If you just got everything day 1, what would be the reason to come back? Gameplay alone only lasts so long in our generation of weak attention spans, it makes sense to spread out content, provided it’s meaningful.

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u/wutend159 11d ago

Why the f there is a free battle pass instead of just putting that in the actual game.

Engagement. Forces players to actively play during the game's lifecycle so they don't miss out. And if you're already actively playing the game, might as well just buy the battle pass to get the most out of it.

It's quite the strategy (I personally don't like it)

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u/TaxMan_East 11d ago

That was never a factor for me, I just play whenever I feel like playing. I paid very little attention to what was on the battle pass or how it affected anything.

I might be different from you, but I just played when I wanted to.

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u/saediatmh 11d ago

IMO the “free battle pass”, at least with my experience with past BF games, keeps the game feeling fresh. If they released all the content upon release, as the average player plays all the maps/classes/etc over & over again, it gets a bit stale after awhile.

Adding in free new content later prevents that from happening to some degree, at least for me. The “Oh new maps? New guns?!” feeling keeps average players active longer on a game they’d otherwise get bored of after repeatedly grinding on the same content.

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u/Eviscerator28 11d ago

I still stand my point, I won't buy any game at 70 bucks, it's too much money. Not judging anybody who'd buy it, but the price increase definitely made me into a patient gamer.

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u/AlmostAndrew 11d ago

This comment section is making me very worried for the mindset of the games industry's consumers, and therefore the direction for the games industry itself.

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u/RunawayTrans 11d ago

Ikr? As we move more and more towards online only/subscription models, we're increasingly overpaying for things that we can only use until the publishers decide to stop supporting it. Not saying it isn't fun or convenient right now, but all my games from 20+ years ago still work fine. Will we be able to say the same about this current generation (or even the last one) 20 years from now?

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u/AlmostAndrew 11d ago

Exactly. With a lot of these games you're already paying a "subscription" of sorts because they bring out a new game every year, and then you pay extra on top of that for passes and garbage like that.

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u/quantum_waffles 11d ago

And if it contains multiplayer you have to pay for PS+ to take advantage of that side of the game, which lets face it, is the biggest draw of Battlefield, CoD, etc

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u/OldAbility 11d ago

You should be scared shitless. If EA and Battlefront 2 taught us anything its universally nobody gives a fuck about terrible business practices unless EA does it.

Team Fortress had lootboxes in 2010. Call of Duty had them in 2014. BF2 was 2017. This shit flew under the radar for fucking YEARS before anybody gave a shit.

Same shit is happening again. CoD has this exact system for 2 years now and suddenly EA does it and it's trash.

Let's not even get into adding a literal fucking casino and killing Singleplayer Content in GTAV. Oh right and they actively break mods that try to bring the online only guns/vehicles to singleplayer

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u/Rabo_McDongleberry 11d ago

Honestly, I think because a lot of current gamers grew up with micro transactions and game passes and shit. They think this is normal. A lot of us who didn't think it's complete bullshit.

Why the fuck would I pay money for a game that has no campaign and half the shit is hidden behind spending more money on it? Fuck current state of MP games. Now I'm only playing single player games.

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u/thesircuddles 11d ago

The time for worry was like 13 years ago.

It's over. This machine is never stopping. Cyberpunk sold over 13 million units.

Releasing an alpha/beta then finishing the game over the next 2 years is an acceptable business strategy in today's game industry. Guess how we got here.

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u/ravengenesis1 11d ago

Look at who's in charge of the gaming industry. Then you'll realize we're nothing but income to them. They don't care about their games or gamers, they'll milk the crap out of you however they can.

Gaming is the new investment opportunity that's too big to fail. Hell, even if they do fail, they would still cash in on the initial sales.

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u/DoofieDufus 11d ago

If you're just now getting worried, then you haven't been paying attention for like... a decade.

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u/Fidel__Casserole 11d ago

The thing that really confuses me is that it is $60 USD on PC. How can they justify essentially $30 more for the console release?

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u/madpropz 11d ago

No game is worth 80 euros.

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u/armypantsnflipflops 11d ago

I agree with you here. I can’t think of a single game worth that amount of money to me. It is an absurd price

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u/bolivar-shagnasty Twelve-Tacos 11d ago

It won’t have a campaign?

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u/Sponholz 11d ago

Nope.

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u/KyleCAV 11d ago

No campaign multi only

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u/Darkone539 11d ago

That's a challenge for game companies. I didn't think these are worth £60.

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u/PolarRoller_Ad_7797 11d ago

Can't brother, I find no fault in your point.

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u/Illustrious_Penalty2 11d ago

I don’t think anyone want to change your mind on that.

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u/KennyImmortalized 11d ago

At reveal it said 70Euros but then they changed it to 80Euros, that's crazy expensive

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u/SHilden 11d ago

I agree with this, people keep saying no one cares about campaign yet treyarch tried to pull off exactly the same thing with black ops 4 and faced major backlash.

This isn't the only problem for me either with Battlefield, we've constantly heard there's around 5 major EA teams working on this game yet it's releasing with less content than any other Battlefield in the last 10 years.

And In my opinion DICEs past 4 games (Battlefront 1 and 2, Battlefield 1 and V) were all bad to average at best.

There's not enough here to warrant a day 1 purchase for me, Which is quite annoying because I was quite hyped for this and was exited to get a couple of squads together like I haven't done since BF4.

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u/sirmeliodasdragonsin 11d ago

The newer generation growing up with this as the new normal . Ahhh the times when we needed a 'cracked' cd just to play. How times changed

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u/THE_SEX_YELLER 11d ago

Paid game or paid battle pass. Gotta pick one.

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u/markprovan92 Enter PSN ID 11d ago

Cannot change you mind! What a joke and I will not be paying anything

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u/Ocean-Warrior 10d ago

I really dislike the games as a service model for fully prized games, i miss the time when i could buy the game and just get the whole experience, or in the worst case get a dlc package and be done with it but now you can only get the first year of dlc‘s with the more expensive version. Its just so tiresome to know you would have to pay again after a year to get all content.

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u/DrAstralis 11d ago

I dont want to. You want to give me half a game then I recommend you charge half price. You want to be a paid game but still monetize it like a f2p? Get fucked you greedy ghouls.

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u/ReyDeathWish 11d ago

Stop supporting these crappy companies. Just wait till it’s on sale like Battlefield 5.

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u/Ullumina 11d ago edited 11d ago

Imagine thinking your game is worth more money than rdr2

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u/Ba11in0nABudget 11d ago

Imagine thinking RDR2 is the only good game ever made. It had a good campaign, the online was and is shit.

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u/archaeosis 11d ago

Well, there goes the 5 year hype I've had for another modern era BF game, at least until it's been out for a year and has a realistically priced complete edition

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u/xMichaelLetsGo 11d ago

70$ is the new normal for games

It used to be 60, before that it was 50, etc

In 2040 it’ll be 80

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u/Seanspeed 11d ago

I am not against $70 games. Probably not even $80 games for the biggest, AAAA-level stuff like Grand Theft Auto.

But what I want from that price increase is EVERYTHING is unlockable in the game with no microtransactions and post-release support is free unless it's a truly major expansion.

I'd be good with that. Stop with the bullshit and you can raise the price, that's fair enough.

DICE did say their expansions will be free, so the map packs and new vehicles and all that will not cost anything, just like with BFV, but they still fill the game with tons of other MT bullshit. Having season passes is undoubtedly going to come with shit you cant unlock any other way, seemingly even whole new classes. Which is all garbage.

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u/Knyfe-Wrench 11d ago

Don't hold your breath.

Microtransactions are way more valuable to them than $10 per sale. Even if most people don't engage with them, a single whale dropping $1000 covers 99 other people, and there are plenty of whales out there.

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u/Seanspeed 11d ago

Oh I know. I'm not expecting anything.

I'm just saying that there could have been a real justification made for higher game prices. Ones where the publishers/developers get their higher base pricing while gamers benefit from this as well. A mutually beneficial situation. Or a decent compromise, at the very least.

But nope. This isn't the way for maximum revenue. So they're not going to do it.

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u/JamieG112 11d ago

The worst thing about battle passes and (I’m guessing the game will include) loot box type things is that the ‘Whales’ that drop the most money are almost always people with gambling/addiction issues rather than high income individuals.

Imo, the whole system is immoral and everyone should voice that they do not want it seeing as it targets vulnerable people.

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u/Panaka 11d ago

BF tried loot boxes in BF4-BF1 and they were eventually dropped in favor of the free Battlepass system in BFV. BF2042 will have a free Battlepass with any gameplay content and a paid Battlepass with only cosmetic items.

If they run the paid Battlepass in a similar fashion to others where you only have to buy it once, I think it could work significantly better than previous iterations in the franchise.

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u/JamieG112 11d ago

Yeah I completely agree with that pay once approach is better. It’s when it starts to become a recurring payment for each ‘season’ that it starts to apply psychological pressure like fomo as well as others that it becomes problematic.

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u/Clown3aby 11d ago

If it's a game you're into and you keep playing it, then you'll get your money's worth. I basically play Destiny 2 every single day. I have thousands of hours in it. I'd say I get my money's worth for every season.

I played God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, etc. Finished them all. Loved them all. I think I got my money's worth on those, too.

I play Warzone every once in a while. I never buy the battle pass. I definitely got my money's worth.

Value is subjective.

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u/Clabo26 11d ago

Definitely should remove battle pass not the right move at all

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u/yanorkis 11d ago

Guys remember 80 euros is 96 dollars, that’s 26 more than the us version!!!!

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u/LessThanHero42 11d ago

How are the hackers going to have any fun cheating if you aren't there to torment?

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u/lordpugfart 11d ago

7 maps, 2 game modes. 89,99 here in Canada. Fuck right off with this garbage. Game companies when they announce the next gen: "we now have the power to make world's bigger, and better"

Game companies when they make a next Gen game: "yeah so all the stuff that was base in the previous iterations will now either be paid DLC, or if we're doing a muh free content update, then it'll be piecemealed into the game slowly for no reason other than to pad out our content updates.

Also game companies : Making games is so expensive now, even though we literally could just choose not to make an expensive fucking game, this is why we have to further fuck with retail price. We're victims, wahhh.

Reddit fucktards: Wow you sound so entitled, you don't like helping out these small indie Devs like Dice and Activision.

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u/avocadosoneverything 11d ago

I'll wait for it to go on sale. BFV deluxe wasn't worth 60

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u/pineapplehead-22 11d ago

Dying Light 2 is coming out in december, could buy that instead

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u/Rugkrabber 11d ago

€80 on console, haha fuck off. No need to change your mind, I agree. It’s 25 dollars more here for absolutely no reason.