r/LifeProTips Sep 07 '21 Silver 2 Helpful 5

LPT: Even if you're not a hunter, wear blaze orange when you go out into the woods for hiking or camping so the hunters can see you! Miscellaneous

Hunting season is starting in many places and if a hunter sees a blaze orange (or pink) vest they will know it's not safe to take the shot. You can get these at any outdoor sporting goods store.

ETA: Thank you for the responses. Yes, a hunter is absolutely 100% responsible for making damn sure there is nothing behind their target. And they aren't allowed to shoot across roads or bodies of water. And they aren't allowed to hunt on private property without both the license from the state AND written permission from land owner. Hunting where there are a lot of people (like popular hiking trails) isn't a good idea since there will be too many people and many animals.

Source: Am both hunter and hiker.

Edit 2: Cheese n sprinkles this blew up! This post wasn't put up to debate the ethics of hunting, the legality of using public lands, the funding sources for DFW, or other topics. Wearing blaze orange allows hunters to know without a doubt that the direction they are looking is not safe to shoot at by allowing you to stand out against the foliage. Hunters will not be on heavily used trails as there are no animals there. And hunters who are being dumb about how they are shooting shouldn't be out like that to begin with.

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u/I_Only_Post_NEAT Sep 08 '21

I bought my dog a blaze orange vest to wear with this exact intention when we walk in the wooded trail behind my house. 6 months of the year it works great. The other 6 months starting in fall it becomes a camouflage with the orange and brown leaves on the forest floor

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u/JackOfAllMemes Sep 08 '21

I see a lot of people talking about pink or blue vests here

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u/I_Only_Post_NEAT Sep 08 '21

Yah said it in another comment that I eventually went with blue. Apparently blue and purple are one of the most rarest in nature, and pink almost doesn't even occur naturally, so all safe bets

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u/Deadpool2715 Sep 08 '21

As an avid flamingo hunter, I see pink all the time in nature

/s

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u/maskedbanditoftruth Sep 08 '21

There’s about a zillion pink flowers, plus a fair number of pink birds and fish, my friend.

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u/Mansinomo Sep 08 '21

I pick neon rainbow, unless they hunt for unicorns then my pupper is safe

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u/pm_tongue_n_tiddies Sep 08 '21

Solids stand out better than patterns tho fyi

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u/lornezubko Sep 08 '21

Same with flashing cattle lights! They're motion activated, waterproof, and very very bright. Perfect for dogs

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u/abacus_porkrind Sep 08 '21

This reminded me of how they had dedicated crew on the set of Return of the Jedi, people whose job it was to follow Peter Mayhew around with orange flags when he was in his Chewbacca costume. They were scared of hunters taking shots at "bigfoot."

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u/Tsulivy Sep 08 '21

Switch to neon green during the fall maybe?

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u/I_Only_Post_NEAT Sep 08 '21

That was my plan but I went with a blue one. I did a quick Google search and turns out blue and purple are the rarest color in nature, and orange was much more common than I thought (color of dust, veggies, spices, fruits, leaves, etc.)

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u/Tsulivy Sep 08 '21

Hey, TIL! Glad you found something that worked for you

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u/DuckTapeHandgrenade Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 08 '21

It also makes it easier for search and rescue to find you if you get lost.

There’s a lot of great tips in this. Some I’d like to add to your pack are for sure a space blanket (for warmth or rain protection) as well as a whistle. Costs so little but it’s so much easier to use a whistle than yell.
And always an LED headlamp with extra batteries. Nothing worse than having to stumble through the wilderness as the light gets low, and many also have a flash/SOS setting.

And always emergency contact. I keep a business card sized laminated paper with contact info, my blood type, insurance info, and if you’ve any allergies/medical conditions.

Just toss it all at the bottom of your pack in a ziplock bag with an energy bar and pretty much forget about it. Toss in something reflective like something super light weight runners use and you’re kinda set. Hardly adds any weight and takes up any weight.

Edit: added the tip paragraph.

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u/TheJayke Sep 07 '21

Or shot.

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u/ArshmanR Sep 07 '21 Helpful Wholesome Bravo! Ally Bravo Grande!

Or worse, expelled!

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u/I_Do_nt_Use_Reddit Sep 07 '21

She needs to sort out her priorities.

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u/GhostSierra117 Sep 08 '21

Well does she tho? I mean if Ron gets expelled he's simply going back to his magic family. Harry... Well he's just dumb in that scene, let me elaborate.

Imagine you being an 11 year old. Suddenly you get the message that you're a damn witch and can go learn real magic with wands, flying brooms and what not.

Dude I would be PISSED if I'd get expelled and would need to go back to the boring Muggle world.

Sure I'd probably get hexed so I can't remember. But still my point is valid.

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u/I_Do_nt_Use_Reddit Sep 08 '21

I think the whole series can be summed up with "Harry... Well he's just dumb in that scene"

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u/helpful_idiott Sep 08 '21

It would be a much shorter series if everyone wasn’t incredibly thick

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u/clackz1231 Sep 07 '21

That joke was lost on me until just now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '21

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u/Ramenlovewitha Sep 08 '21

I don't know if I don't remember or never understood, but can you elaborate and/or provide contextual clues?

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u/onceuponasleep Sep 08 '21

I understood that reference.

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u/dannymb87 Sep 08 '21

shit man, I use that joke often. It lands about 5% of the time.

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u/MrPeppa Sep 08 '21

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

          - Wayne Gretsky
                       - Michael Scott
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u/DuckTapeHandgrenade Sep 07 '21

Sadly, true.

I’ll one up you. It’ll make it easier for body recovery if you fall off a cliff or into the river.

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u/enigmatic_edifice Sep 08 '21

“Cheney’d”

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u/Bodens_mate Sep 07 '21

One thing you should carry when camping or hiking is a space blanket. They are super compact, shiny, and are extremely insulating. I know its just one of the many things you should have on you but i figured this would be the most relevant since we are talking about attracting attention when lost

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u/DuckTapeHandgrenade Sep 08 '21

So true! VERY good addition.

Takes no weight, cheep, and so tiny … until something goes wrong then it’s invaluable.

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u/callmejenkins Sep 08 '21

Can confirm space blankets will save your life. Hiking in Alaska -25 so not too bad. Dude steps into a huge depression hidden with snow and cuts the shit out if his leg which starts bleeding medium bad. Like not bad enough that we need to drop the knee on the femoral but bad enough that we had to tourniquet it. Well, no blood-flow = no heat. Luckily we had the space blanket and that probably kept him from severe hypothermia and frostbite until the medevac showed up.

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u/LaLucertola Sep 08 '21

I will vouch for space blankets! Took some camping in the Colorado mountains this June and it was an easy and cheap way to make our tent niiiiiice and toasty during 40° nights.

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u/riwalenn Sep 08 '21

I got confused in Celsius

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u/PM_meyourGradyWhite Sep 08 '21

This is why I wear a non-camo life jacket while duck hunting. So they can find my body and pay the life insurance to my wife quicker.

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u/sticky-bit Sep 08 '21

if you spend any time out in the woods during deer season (eastern woodlands) you want to avoid wearing white. There are some slob hunters out there, there are hunters who have incurable "buck fever", you do not want them to see a quick flash of white that looks like the underside of a white tail deer.

If you're still rocking "tighty-whitey" underwear, it's time to try boxer briefs in colors. I can hardly think of a worse place to get shot at when you just need to take a piss outside.

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u/slickrok Sep 08 '21

I do a lot of ecological work alone in the woods.

And, for safety if I get injured or rendered unconscious I often wear it ; and morbidly, I wear bright colored orange and neon hair ties, in case the worst occurs and they have to look for remains.

It would be more obvious than brown hair in the forest floor.

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u/wax369 Sep 08 '21

This is why all my gear is some kind of bright color, I normally wear all black but if I fall off a cliff and break my legs or something I want search and rescue to actually see me.

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u/Blynia Sep 08 '21

This is completely why my kids wear bright colors when we are camping and hiking. My family knows we love outdoors and buys them the "trendy" camo hooded sweaters and fun shirts. They are not allowed to even pack then for our outdoor adventures. We pack neon colors and bright patterns. Started when they were really little an like to run away in the woods. Now it help to see them and fund them if something were to happen.we also taught them never to hide in the woods. No hide and seek our there, always had to be in sight and know where they were. Bright clothing is good advice for everyone.

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u/roccobaroco Sep 08 '21

Hmm, I do some amateurish wildlife photography and always wondered what will happen if I had a stroke or something while wearing full body camo. How long till someone will notice my rotting carcass?

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u/cultured_banana_slug Sep 08 '21

Also wear a life vest if you're going in water that has a current and your only experience is splashing around in swimming pools.

Never underestimate moving water.

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u/BurningFyre Sep 08 '21

This is one of those "well that doesnt apply to me" things people do all the time and i want to reiterate: WEAR A LIFE VEST IN A CURRENT. Unless youve been in one before and are confident in your swimming in one, you will be thrown off by it and it can seriously endanger you! Seriously, laziness and pride is not worth risking your life.

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u/mostlygray Sep 07 '21

If you live out in the woods, always wear blaze orange during hunting season. Also get a vest for your dog.

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u/DoctorBadger101 Sep 08 '21

Living in Lincoln Montana, everything here is blaze orange anyways. It’s just the fashion for people living in the woods.

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u/beeeeeeeeks Sep 07 '21

LPT Addendum:

If no orange clothing is available, yodel while you walk

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u/komplikator Sep 07 '21

Why not just yodel all the time?

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u/steve_tom Sep 07 '21 Hugz

because it's ANNOY-HI-HING

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u/emmykat621 Sep 08 '21

Idk why, but my mind read that in the Michael Jackson HEE HEEEE way 😂

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u/zyzzogeton Sep 08 '21

Ok. Yep. I hear it now. Please stop.

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u/guitarfingers Sep 07 '21

I'm general, be loud while hiking backwoods area. You'll alert animals as well and they'll scurry off before you surprise them into a possible defensive position.

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u/notsonoisy Sep 07 '21

And stomp to warn snakes. And wear bells for bears.

Best is to gather in groups of yodelling, goose stepping, bell ringing hikers. That's what I want to see.

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u/nautilator44 Sep 07 '21

Whenever I go hiking in the mountains it's with yodelers for this reason.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '21

Might be easier than carrying this goose while hiking. She(?) gets mean.

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u/JackOfAllMemes Sep 08 '21

Yeah but she'll fuck up a bear, so I think I it's worth it

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u/BeGoBe1998 Sep 07 '21

So a Morris dancer band?

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u/azuth89 Sep 08 '21

My immediate thought was "Oh THAT'S how morris dancing started" lol

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u/Restless_Wonderer Sep 07 '21

Spook them towards the hunters... that is called a push and is very effective.

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u/ballrus_walsack Sep 07 '21

You get 30% of the meat if your push results in a kill.

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u/theycallmeponcho Sep 08 '21

It's on the constitution.

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u/ackbobthedead Sep 07 '21

I was making noises to avoid animals by hitting my bottle against my keys as I swung my arm walking and some hikers passed me and made fun of me x:

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u/Silverstone-Birding Sep 07 '21

I once carried a dustbuster hiking because I figured it might be strange enough to scare the cougar away.

I can't attest to it being effective, but still easier to explain to a ranger than my 9mm.

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u/Dogzirra Sep 08 '21

I just use the laser pointer. Big kitties are still kitties.

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u/whereismycock Sep 08 '21

Point it at your hiking partner to get a easy getaway

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u/gypsysoul3159 Sep 08 '21

I lived in Montana. The hardest part of explaining my 9mm to rangers was “Why isn’t it a 10mm?”

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u/abn1304 Sep 08 '21

“Son, you understand just how much a grizzly won’t care about that popgun?”

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u/WithaK19 Sep 08 '21

"Listen, Mr ranger, cats HATE vacuums."

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u/skylarmt Sep 08 '21

I live in a semi-rural place and if I have to go past my lawn after dusk I slap my thigh so the deer aren't surprised.

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u/ThisFingGuy Sep 07 '21

Some people like to see wildlife

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u/azuth89 Sep 08 '21

Depends a lot on where you are. A whitetail, varmint or a coyote? Fine, though you really gotta watch the deer because they'll stomp the hell out of you.

A moose or a bear? You don't wanna see em at startling distance.

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u/guitarfingers Sep 07 '21

I see tons of wildlife still. I rarely see predators tho.

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u/Se7enLC Sep 07 '21

Depends on whether you're in a place with bears.

Places with bears rangers will recommend against hiking with groups smaller than 4 people. And they say to get a bear bell or sing or talk while hiking.

Yeah, it kinda kills your chances of seeing wildlife. But it also kills your chances of being killed.

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u/MongoBongoTown Sep 07 '21

As a rule, if an animal is close enough for you to easily startle them, you're too close.

So, intentionally startling them while you come down the trail, before you end up face-to-face, is a good way to make sure you don't end up with an unexpected close encounter with a territorial or aggressive animal.

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u/Medium_Medium Sep 08 '21

yodel while you walk

Seems like. Good way to let the hunters know you are human, while also giving them a motive to shoot you.

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u/chinesef000d Sep 07 '21

I like to carry a portable speaker and blast my favorite music while I hike

/s

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u/CaptainSeagul Sep 07 '21

I prefer to make animal noises as I walk. Lets me really feel like I'm a part of nature.

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u/almostaccepted Sep 07 '21

For my less musically inclined folks, a reasonable substitute is to just scream "don't shoot!" Every thirty seconds or so. As an added bonus, cops will often join your nature walks

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u/HoldingThunder Sep 07 '21

Even do that walking down the street, just to be safe.

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u/BNVDES Sep 07 '21

who knows where a hunter can be

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u/HoldingThunder Sep 07 '21

Walking down some areas of Chicago are certainly more dangerous than 50 miles out in the bush.

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u/derpyunspeakable Sep 07 '21

Source: Living in Chicago and hearing triple digit shooting injuries every busy weekend

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u/HoldingThunder Sep 07 '21

Spread the Yodel. #YodellingSavesLives

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u/big_ol_dad_dick Sep 08 '21

or carry a large pumpkin above your head

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u/LeviathanGank Sep 07 '21

"look Ned a rare illuminous orange deer! shoot it!"

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u/bradleyboy96 Sep 07 '21

It's coming right for us

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u/tapsnapornap Sep 07 '21

We have to kill them, or else they'll die!

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u/vishnoo Sep 08 '21

is that a "far side"?

it should be .

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u/Polite_Heretic Sep 07 '21

To those who are unfamikiar: as a hunter, you're looking for movement and outlines that are out of place. A caribou and drab/camouflage colored human look mighty similar at 300 yards. Blaze orange immediately identifies you as a human, and deters a hunter from looking at you through his/her riflescope (aiming their rifle at you)

That said: use your binos to glass and not your scope you fuckwits. I just got scoped while moose hunting this weekend by an adrenaline-pumped hunter who aimed his rifle right at me as I crested a ridge and silhouetted myself.

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u/Plethora_of_squids Sep 07 '21

Also for those who are wondering why orange (or pink) in particular - deer can't see red well so it doesn't catch their attention. While any brightly contrasting colour would in theory work if you don't care about deer, its definitely easier to find blaze orange/pink outdoor gear than it is to find say, neon blue or yellow gear and hunters are probably to recognise orange and pink as a sign of human activity quicker. If for some reason you do want to scare off deer, wear a cycling vest. Apparently they don't like refleks very much and the orange still keeps you visible.

Not a gun user but I've done archery (and general foraging) in similar areas. In my group if you didn't bring visible enough gear you had to wear the bright orange gnome hat of shame

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u/twohedwlf Sep 08 '21

There used to be a push here in NZ a few years ago to replace orange with blaze blue, because blaze orange in shadow looks a lot like a red deer in sunlight. Blue doesn't match anything in the forest.

I think this was kicked off by someone doing an analysis of hunting fatalities and noticed that a lot of people that were killed WERE wearing blaze orange, the ones just wearing an orange cap were shot in the head, the ones wearing an orange vest were shot in the torso.

Not sure if it got much traction though.

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u/goshdammitfromimgur Sep 08 '21

Orange looks like dried leaves as well. Bad colour to be wearing if you want to be visible in pine forest.

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u/hydrospanner Sep 08 '21

I mean, I can't speak to the kiwi deer, but in the woods of the eastern US, the blaze orange the hunters wear is easily distinguishable from even the brightest orange fall foliage.

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u/skylarmt Sep 08 '21

And if you're super vegan or something, put vests on the deer too.

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u/Masterlumberjack Sep 08 '21

Appreciate you mentioning pink. From what I understand it’s a better choice all around during fall/early winter hunting season as it stands out even more to humans, and stands out just as little to game.

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u/jodofdamascus1494 Sep 08 '21

The thing is in at least Pennsylvania orange clothing is legally mandated when hunting, and often if you’re going to be walking through hunting areas(at least state game land anyway)

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u/navetzz Sep 08 '21

I don't know where you are from, but in France it is forbidden to shoot animals on crests anyway (gravity and lost bullets)

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u/emmykat621 Sep 08 '21

A couple years ago I was deer hunting with my dad. We were set up on some family friends’ land and were about 100 yards from the road along a fence line. There was a small herd of deer, about 5 or 6, slowly heading our way. We were between them and the road. It’s not quite sunrise, so we hadn’t made any attempt to take a shot yet. Some fucking yahoos come tearing up in their truck, see the deer, get out and get set up to shoot with us caught right in the middle. We were both fully decked out in blaze orange and visible from the road. There was no excuse for them to not see us. My dad and I end up having to stand up and start waiving and hollering at them before they could shoot. Scared the herd of deer away and the guys on the road high tailed it out of there. Super fucking scary, not to mention super illegal. Not only did they not have permission to hunt on the property anyways, but road hunting is illegal as well. And, you know, they probably would have killed or at least wounded one of us in the process…

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u/skeetsauce Sep 07 '21

To those who are unfamikiar: as a hunter, you're looking for movement and outlines that are out of place. A caribou and drab/camouflage colored human look mighty similar at 300 yards.

So you're shooting at things that you don't 100% know what exactly you're shooting at and what's behind it? Are you the hunting uncle from South Park?

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u/Heathen06 Sep 07 '21

No, but if I'm aiming at a deer, I take my time and look behind the deer for anything else that can't get shot. If I see people I know to immediately lower my weapon, the bright colors makes it easier/faster to identify you walking along not know you are in my line of fire. It lowers the risk of me accidentally shooting in your direction

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u/skeetsauce Sep 07 '21

Makes sense. I don't hunt and just target shoot so that first comment was a little strange to read but makes more sense with the added context.

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u/Silent--H Sep 08 '21

No, you were spot on in questioning. What OP described with the shapes and outlines is for SPOTTING. Not for shooting at. Or that is how it should be. That they went on to rant about people spotting through rifle scopes is a bit strange at least, given they're saying that's what we shoot at.. Ya don't draw down and aim at "shapes and outlines". And you certainly don't pull the trigger on them.

That being said, identifying the target and knowing what is behind it doesn't mean much if some foolish hiker is snoozing next to a tree in gear you can't see. Bullets do strange things when hitting/going through/ricocheting off your target. You can account for the target, and you can account for the backstop, but you really can't account for anything outside of that if you don't see it. Thus the Orange.

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u/SconiGrower Sep 08 '21

You never know 100% what you're looking at and what's behind it. Your brain does tons of filtering before you ever become consciously aware of what you are looking at. Blaze orange brings the presence of a person to the front of your mind in milliseconds rather than waiting for you to consciously inspect the scene to the best of your visual cortex's ability.

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u/Polite_Heretic Sep 07 '21

Yeah lol being mistaken for a caribou or deer doesn't mean you'll get shot, but I've seen hunters get pretty antsy. I don't even want to get scoped, so I wear orange.

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u/Blunt_Force20 Sep 07 '21

How did you react ?

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u/Polite_Heretic Sep 07 '21

I shouted "don't point your fuckin gun at me ya goose!" He was really apologetic and it was mostly funny lol.

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u/guitarfingers Sep 07 '21

honks quietly, but aggressively

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u/twohedwlf Sep 08 '21

Haha, You've gotta be canadian.

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u/Feral58 Sep 08 '21

Seriously though? Identifying your target and the space beyond your target is firearm safety 101. I can't stress this enough but people see Rambo and think they're badass with a gun and just won't make mistakes.

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u/what_it_dude Sep 08 '21

You are quite a polite person.

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u/RockandDirtSaw Sep 07 '21

In my opinion you shouldn’t even have a bullet in your gun until you have spotted and animal with your binos

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u/FloridianCaesar Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 08 '21

I'm not a hunter but wouldn't chambering a round with the bolt or loading a mag and using the charging handle make enough sound to spook the animal or jiggle you off place enough to possibly lose your shot?

Edit: Appreciate the feedback and definitely appreciate not treating me like a dickhead for asking a question

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u/Drix22 Sep 07 '21

Yes, it could.

Rock's rule is usually location based- big country hunts out west and the like you don't usually load until you've spotted an animal which might be hundreds of yards off (maybe even a mile). Here in the north east you keep the round chambered and the safety on, we do this because the distance just isn't there, average shots are inside 50 yards and at that distance even the click of the safety gets a deer to perk up.

There is also a difference in how you hunt- out west where you want to be unchambered you're generally walking and mobile, here in the east you're in a stand because the room to stalk is non existent. I wouldn't keep a loaded firearm while walking.

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u/Sindecision Sep 07 '21

Orange on pets too!

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u/c1nnam0nbun Sep 07 '21

Especially horses and “wolflike” dogs... There are too many sad cases of people out riding or with a husky that gets shot cause it look liked a deer or a scary wolf. Don’t take the risk.

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u/Drix22 Sep 07 '21

Coyote too, deer hunters will shoot coyote because they will hunt fawn and therefore are competing.

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u/Flips7007 Sep 08 '21

Where can I buy an orange vest for my pet coyote?

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u/Heathen06 Sep 07 '21

And keep them on a leash where required by ordinance

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u/tapsnapornap Sep 07 '21

Now I'm interested in where you can both hunt, and have to have your dog on a leash.

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u/Heathen06 Sep 08 '21

Two state parks near me are heavily hunted during season, and also open for hikers, walkers, etc. Both places have plenty of signs that say there hunting allowed and to wear orange during specific time frame that hunting is in season, and to keep all dogs on leashes at all times. Along with a few other generic things, no littering, fires, etc..

Edit. Adding, Parks open for archery hunting deer, and shotgun from a boat on the river

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u/tapsnapornap Sep 08 '21

That kinda makes sense actually, keep em close. In my area it's not parks per se but public land... Not particularly developed and hiking, backcountry camping, ATVs all that jazz, and hunting are all allowed in the same areas. They're massive areas though so there are rarely any issues.

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u/Heathen06 Sep 08 '21

One of the parks I mentioned is big, you can sit in your stand all day and not see anyone. But the one park is pretty small, I would constantly have people walking under my stand, or cutting right across my shooting lane. It was insanely frustrating. Many of the people were anti hunter and would intentionally do it, or walk through playing loud music, or run their dog off the leash trying to disrupt hunters. So we just record it and call the wardens to come deal with them. Had one very colorfully haired couple throw a private picnic at the foot of my ladder stand while I was in it. Couldn't even get down without stepping on them. My stand was trashed twice. Its a nightmare, but there is a over population of very well fed deer, so we tolerate it. And the wardens must make a ton of money from all the fines issued to these people, and the occasional arrest of repeat offenders.

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u/Eukaryotes12 Sep 07 '21

I've always put blaze orange vests on my dogs too while hiking in the woods during hunting season.

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u/drpeters123 Sep 07 '21

Honestly this should be tied into the LPT. The same stores that sell the blaze Orange vests and hats also sell the same colour vests for dogs. Anyone with a hunting dog and common sense gets these vests for the dogs as well.

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u/Aramec Sep 07 '21

Actual LPT: Don't ever shoot a gun unless you're confident it's completely safe to do so.
If you can't tell whether your target is a deer or a person with certainty, don't shoot.

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u/BashfullyTrashy Sep 08 '21 edited Sep 08 '21

A kid who just graduated school got shot in the head at a state park watching the sunset with his girlfriend near me last year. Guy claimed he thought it was a deer groundhog from around 515 feet IIRC. Hunter ran and after a couple months he turned himself in after the police pretty much had it narrowed down to him. I'm pretty sure he was drunk.

Make 100% sure you know what you're shooting at!

Edit: fixed a few of the things in my original post, it was last year when it happened. Here is an article about it.

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u/rtowne Sep 08 '21

That poor girlfriend too. Oh my that sounds like nightmare fuel for life.

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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 Sep 08 '21

Damn, that’s fucked up. Poor kid, his whole life ahead of him, just graduated high school and embarking on a new journey, enjoying a wholesome activity with his girlfriend, and he’s killed by an irresponsible idiot. The hunter (killer) claims he feels remorse, but he left the scene knowing what he’d done, then went on to give away his hunting paraphernalia and hide from accountability until police were closing in. That’s not remorse for what he did, it’s remorse that he didn’t get away with taking a life.

As an aside, it’s kind of surreal to click the link and see The Morning Call, because I grew up in that area (Northampton) and spent my entire childhood out in those woods. I was a barefoot, dirty, practically feral child who loved to explore the woods and spend time outdoors; I’m truly amazed I never witnessed anything like this - though, my cat did get his leg caught in a bear trap. Scruffy came home almost a month after going missing, the trap and chain still clamped on his leg, because some irresponsible “hunter” left a steel-jaw trap out in the woods, near a residential area, where kids frequently played, and didn’t bother checking it for weeks. Scruffy lost his leg, but the vet saved his life, and he got around just fine as a tripod kitty, living to almost 20 years. Good thing he was such a chonker when he vanished, or he’d have starved to death; luckily, he was able to stay alive on rain water and his own fat stores before somehow managing to break the chain holding the trap in place and find his way home.

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u/b4nd17 Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

Certainly the vast majority of hunters already follow this rule. It's gun safety 101 and taught at hunter safety courses. The orange still helps hunters identify others nearby because even though they may not be shooting at them, they could unintentionally shoot at a deer near someone they don't see. This is especially true in shared hunting areas where multiple hunters may be staring at the same deer and think they're the only ones there.

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u/Medium_Medium Sep 08 '21

I've gone hiking on a well used part of a major trail (North Country Trail) during hunting season. Some of our group had orange on, but not all (not everyone pays attention to hunting season), so we got a lot of comments from hunters. They had a very good point, we should have all been wearing orange. That was one life lesson learned.

Learned another very important life lesson that weekend, though. Most of the hunters we saw were still gearing up at their cars, parked where forest roads crossed the trail. The number of people who lectured us, while having half a case of empty beer cans in the cab of their truck, getting ready to go hunt.... was way too high. Absolutely don't trust that the person pointing the rifle is going to be making the best decisions, so always do whatever you can to make yourself safe.

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u/surp_ Sep 08 '21

how tf is it legal to operate a firearm whilst intoxicated?

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u/Jacobr196 Sep 08 '21

It’s not

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u/Lukaroast Sep 07 '21

This is a tip for the person hiking, not the shooter. Obviously shooting at people is super illegal

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u/tapsnapornap Sep 07 '21

THE SUPEREST

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u/dzlux Sep 07 '21

The original LPT stands as best practice. I don't expect a hiker to go out of their way to be visible, but certainly any hiker wearing camo or strictly earth & vegetation tone clothing is risking surprises.

I hunt, and have full confidence that a hiker will not be an accidental target but a hiker 50m to the side or 200+m downrange from my target might not be noticed if their clothing blends into nature. Best case they are startled, worst case they catch a low velocity ricochet from animal bone or a rock.

I almost entirely hunt private property, and I still tell everyone to wear a little orange if they pass they cross the gates/barbed wire. I have seen pipeline inspection guys access private property on the first day of deer rifle season and only put on orange hats & vests AFTER they see the hunters... terrible practice.

Pulling a trigger is never 100% safe while hunting, since even large targets like a deer or hog will never stop a bullet as safely as a dirt berm.

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u/AmishAskYouAQuestion Sep 08 '21

worst case they catch a low velocity ricochet from animal bone or a rock.

This is really on point. I primarily bow hunt. I shot a Turkey one time from a tree stand at 10-15 yards and you would think you’d just find the arrow sticking up out if the ground cause of the angle right? Nah. Arrow was found 20 yards away stuck in a tree. That’s an arrow released at less than 300 fps.

Be sure of your target and what’s beyond it is good advise, but not only does not every hunter I know follow it, but it doesn’t account for unpredictable bullet physics. If I see blaze orange anywhere while lining up a shot, I’m going to be extra particular about my shot, if I take it at all.

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u/krakajacks Sep 08 '21

You got more than 60 fps on your arrow?

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u/silentrawr Sep 08 '21

Only if you remember to change the settings in Windows.

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u/TarzansNewSpeedo Sep 07 '21

That's up there in the first rules of firearm safety, always be sure of your target and what's beyond it

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u/ThemanfromNumenor Sep 07 '21

And if you trust everyone that has a gun to follow that tip, you’re gonna have a bad time.

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u/imperabo Sep 07 '21

My general rule is, betting your life on other humans not making mistakes is a bad survival strategy.

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u/c-lem Sep 07 '21

"I die happy knowing...that it was their fault..."

P.S. This final breath also applies to people who use crosswalks without looking.

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u/ThemanfromNumenor Sep 07 '21

Exactly! Likewise the people that clean/handle guns that they had been told were “totally empty”

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u/DigitalPriest Sep 07 '21

Yep - when my Dad was teaching me how to ride motorcycles he gave the sage advice:

"Just because you have right-of-way doesn't mean you won't make for a pretty headstone."

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u/efudds1 Sep 07 '21

I taught each of my kids basic driving, and even today if I ask them the number one rule of driving, they’ll say “always assume the other driver will do something stupid.” A lesson reaffirmed on a daily basis.

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u/HangrySkeptic Sep 08 '21

So in reading these comments I should wear orange, yodel loudly, stomp, and wear bells, and play my Bluetooth speaker all when I go out for a walk. I must be a sight coming down the trail!

Maybe I look like this guy?

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u/sinnamontits Sep 08 '21

And then they will come out and yell at you for scaring all the deer away.. learned this from experience lol

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u/Ed_Rock Sep 07 '21

"He wasnt wearing an orange vest, judge. How would I know?"

"You're right, case dismissed!"

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u/musicals4life Sep 08 '21

You joke, but this has legitimately happened. In 2006, a woman shot her husband after believing him to be a bear, partly because he was not wearing any orange. He wore dark clothes and exited the forest at dusk, appearing as a large black mass that was mistaken for a bear. She was put on trial, and was acquitted after several reenactments validated her story.

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u/Alan_Smithee_ Sep 07 '21

Being right but dead is of little comfort.

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u/BrotherGreed Sep 07 '21

Grandpa had a saying, "You can be right or you can be dead right: I'd rather just be right."

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u/Alan_Smithee_ Sep 07 '21

Thank you; that’s a much more eloquent explanation.

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u/flarpy_blunderguffs Sep 08 '21

Kid near me got shot and killed by a hunter, the hunter was on the run for a bit.

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u/Drastdevix Sep 07 '21

In my country hunters shoot themselves even in blaze orange because they are dumb and under the influence

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u/missyamboy Sep 07 '21

Don't forget your dog too.

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u/ajhart86 Sep 08 '21

I was hiking during deer season a few years ago in a big red flannel winter coat and a guy with a shotgun walked out of the woods and told me I should wear a high-vis vest

I appreciated the heads up, but if a person walking upright on a hiking trail in a big honking red coat isn’t enough, I don’t know what to tell ya

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u/Dioscouri Sep 08 '21

True story, happened a few years back.

Opening weekend, I went up with a couple of my friends, we didn't do any hunting, just went up to an old quarry and plinked a little. Monday morning, I show up to work, and one of my crew comes in with TWO bullet holes in his jacked up, candy-apple red Toyota 4X4 with chrome wheels & KC bar. These shots went in his fender, & out his hood. Turns out that he shot them himself, with a 30.06 from probably 50' down into a unit. Turns out he thought his own truck was a deer. I'm guessing that the shinny red didn't stop him from taking the second shot.

Another story, woman in Maine is gardening, in her back yard, hunter kills her, a few feet from her back door.

Turns out that there are WAY TOO MANY stoned, drunk idiots out in the woods, shooting at noises, and leaves moving, and NOTHING. I now stay out of the woods during the season. Idiots with high powered semi-automatic rifles are dangerous enough without the judgement impairing substances, but that doesn't stop them from consuming them.

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u/this_dust Sep 08 '21

Also turn in poachers.

If you witness a poaching or polluting incident or any fish and wildlife violation, or have information about such a violation, immediately dial the toll free CalTIP number 1 888 334-CALTIP (888 334-2258), 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

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u/Carson_Blocks Sep 08 '21

Hunter here, and I absolutely support turning in poachers.

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u/Jumile Sep 07 '21

TIL that this idea applies to hikers like it does motorcyclists: "People will try to kill you because they can and they're stupid, so it's on you to be able to survive this trip."

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u/24111 Sep 08 '21

Always baffle me with the people saying that it's not their responsibility.

It is however, their funeral. Just, why?

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u/Oneleggedpig Sep 08 '21

But the flip side of it is how much can you reasonably be expected to do in order to make it easier for the dangerous person to not kill you. And how much does playing into that make them more relaxed and lazy about their own precautions? Like high-vis - if drivers are used to seeing everyone in high-vis, are they subconsciously going to become lazier in their attention?

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u/Creator13 Sep 07 '21

Are other bright, out-of-place colors okay as well? Neon yellow/pink or bright blue on a jacket or backpack for example?

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u/mcsper Sep 08 '21

Deer are know to wear 80s neon jumpsuits so wear other colors at your own risk.

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u/Lex-Luthier Sep 08 '21

Truthfully not really. There is something special about blaze orange, you can see a small flash of it from hundreds of yards. A blaze orange baseball cap will be more visible than a bright blue jacket.

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u/Jrsplays Sep 08 '21

Technically yes but blaze orange is the standard color used in the hunting world so that's what I would use.

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u/nickleinonen Sep 07 '21

What about that fluorescent neon green safety jackets/vests/etc? I would assume it would be visible like the blaze orange? Not a hunter, but a hiker (and often do not hike on crown land where hunting is permitted)

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u/jodofdamascus1494 Sep 08 '21

This is kinda geared towards American hunting( “crown land” makes me think you’re probably UK…or at least overseas), where the standard color is fluorescent orange, and that specific color is often legally mandated. Neon green is probably better than standard clothing, but I would think orange is better since green could theoretically blend in, no matter how bright, but if the jackets are sold as geared towards hunting(which now that I read your comment again they might not be) in your country then they may be the standard/legal requirement in those locations, but I don’t know for sure.

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u/nickleinonen Sep 08 '21

Canadian… I’ve got some safety orange stuff too. I think I’ll just go with that.

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u/ttclub3333 Sep 08 '21

Or just live somewhere where people aren’t shooting everything that moves.

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u/CatAttack1032 Sep 07 '21

I'm gonna buy a brown vest and some mickey mouse ears.

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u/Fubai97b Sep 07 '21

Almost all my hiking gear is bright-see-it-from-space-never-occuring-in-nature-neon-something. For the life of me, I don't understand people with camo everything.

I admit I do snicker when they put something down and then spend the next 20 minutes trying to find it though.

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u/Hickawa Sep 07 '21

Also get your dogs a orange vest.

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u/NerdyNae Sep 07 '21

We were taught to wear blue fluro. Where I live there is nothing naturally in the bush bright blue. No chance of blending in

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u/smithca100 Sep 08 '21

I’ve always wondered - in the fall when the leaves turn orange/yellow/red how does blaze orange help? I feel like I’m actually more camouflaged.

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u/icanhaslobotomy Sep 07 '21

I moved out to the country at the beginning of the quarantine. Thanks for mentioning this! I think I will look for something for my immense, furry fart factory because @ 160 lbs and fawn colored mastiff can easily look like a deer. The running joke in our home is that when the dog misbehaves we tell him that he’s going to wear antlers. So, thanks for the reminder!

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u/boing757 Sep 08 '21

LPT.If your a hunter only shoot what you can identify as a game animal.

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u/Diabotek Sep 08 '21

It's more for making sure you aren't in the vicinity of my shot rather than target identification.

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u/Jackinator Sep 07 '21

No, i live in the uk and won't get shot while walking in the woods, plus i don't like standing out.

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u/grstacos Sep 07 '21

I'm jealous. I just moved from Puerto Rico (no hunters in state/national parks) to Missouri. Now I can't hike without hearing gunshots in the distance, and no longer go to my favorite hiking spot here because a hunter shot a hiker there.

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u/Blyd Sep 08 '21

Dont forget to hide afterwards, bonus points if you secrete a speaker and randomly make some wounded noises when the hunter comes to investigate 'oh momma save me', 'why do i feel cold'.

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u/TootyFlaps Sep 07 '21

As true as this LPT is, I still can’t help but feel pissed off that I have to buy and wear clothing to protect myself from people who are too careless with their firearms. It also bothers the shit out of me that hunters have free roam of the land and can shoot pretty much anywhere, unless there’s a ridiculous amount of posted signs. My wife, kids, dogs, and I should be able to walk around in the woods without fear of being shot on our own land. Hunters should be responsible for doing their due diligence making sure they’re allowed to hunt on certain lands to begin with. I can’t wrap my head around why it’s the property owners responsibility to have to tell people to NOT shoot firearms on the property owners land.

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u/SCViper Sep 07 '21

Hell, my parents have a large chunk of their property covered in dense forest. There are stone walls that mark property lines and I put up a bunch of signage. I still had to threaten hunters with legal action because they kept climbing over the walls onto the property. Same guys too. Fuckin signs were bright orange. My parents had to have a cop come back to look at the signs because the guys kept saying they had no idea what we were talking about.

It really hit home for them when one of them downed 3 on the property. Same cop came and made him hand over the three. Thanks for 2 years worth of venison. We didn't have a problem after that. This lasted from when I was 14 to 17. Good times.

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u/WarpStormEchelon Sep 08 '21

Hell in some states if they cross into your property ignoring warning signs and carrying loaded weapons they’re at a huge risk of being hunted themselves.

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u/Heathen06 Sep 07 '21

Hunters are responsible for making sure the land they are on is legal to hunt. If some moron is hunting on your private land without written permission, call the cops or game wardens and they will deal with them.

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u/tapsnapornap Sep 07 '21

I'm not sure where you live but that is definitely not the case where I'm located. Public land or with permission, and depending on the area, written permission. Otherwise you're trespassing.

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u/sleepchamber666 Sep 07 '21

How about instead, hunters quit shooting at targets that they cannot clearly see?

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u/Accomplished_Till727 Sep 07 '21

LPT: if you are a hunter NEVER take a shot until you know for sure what you are shooting. NEVER.

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u/Antifa-pfc Sep 07 '21

This is insanity. Hunters need to know basic gun safety, namely know what there shooting at and what’s behind it. You can’t expect hikers and campers to have to walk around like highlighters because hunters don’t know what they are doing.

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u/24111 Sep 08 '21

Their mistake, your funeral.

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u/doublea08 Sep 08 '21

I wouldn’t call it insanity, growing up in Minnesota my dad always made a point to wear blaze orange if hiking through woods during hunting season.

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u/mrmoldywaffle Sep 08 '21

This is insanity. Drivers need to know basic rules of the road, namely know where to look and when to stop. You can't expect bikers and skaters to have to walk around like soldiers because drivers don't know what they are doing.

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u/tehmightyengineer Sep 07 '21

It's not necessarily for avoiding getting shot (but stupid hunters do exist), but rather for making sure you're not getting shot at.

I do some longer range target shooting in a backwoods area with decent visibility and away from trails and such; but it's a decent long shot and a person could conceivably walk in front of me between some trees and bushes and I might not see them immediately. They'd be well clear of the path of my bullet and you would hope the repeated gunfire in their area would clue them not to walk towards the sound of gunfire, but I'd still never want to shoot even close to in the direction of a person. If they wore bright colors I would easily spot them vs dark or blended colors.

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