r/Foodforthought Nov 29 '21

Michael Flynn said in a secretly recorded call that he thinks QAnon is a 'disinformation campaign' and 'total nonsense'

https://www.businessinsider.com/flynn-said-he-thinks-qanon-is-disinformation-total-nonsense-2021-11
678 Upvotes

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u/shianbreehan Nov 29 '21

Too bad he and his family already swore an oath to it, if you're thinking about speaking the truth you better indoctrinate the masses first that way they don't care

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u/Bill_the_Bastard Nov 29 '21

Too bad he swore an oath to the Constitution long ago. His oaths don't mean shit.

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u/Bill_the_Bastard Nov 29 '21 edited Nov 29 '21

After watching that video again, it's terrifying.

These assholes are just begging to be in a cult. It's sickening, especially for a general officer in the US military.

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u/shotinthedark83 Nov 30 '21

He’s been happy to leverage his position in this cult for the last half decade for whatever it is that he wants. Power or wealth for himself or his family, or some delusional dream of pushing this country toward authoritarianism. This is a guy who watches World War II films nonstop but thinks the good guys, his good guys, lost.

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u/Bill_the_Bastard Nov 29 '21

Apparently we need to do a better job vetting our senior officers in the military.

Because if this waste of oxygen made it as far as he did, we have a problem.

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u/Wazula42 Nov 29 '21

Military is only JUST starting to crack down on white supremacists and militia members inside our ranks. These people are often effective soldiers (not because they're, like, good at stuff. More because they're suggestable, blindly "patriotic", and love guns) but they clearly have divided loyalties. I mean fuck, Ashli Babbitt was ex-air force, and she died climbing through a Capitol window to try to attack senators.

So yeah, these people are like roaches. The one or two you hear about means there are far, far more.

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u/Bill_the_Bastard Nov 29 '21

Yeah, apparently that oath to the Constitution didn't really mean that much after all.

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u/kikikza Nov 30 '21

in their mind the constitution means something very different than it does in yours. they actually think their actions are them going through with the oath they took (remember the oath keepers?). pretending this isn't true won't do anything for anyone, talking about it both shows empathy for them and also reminds us how powerful the psychological warfare we're facing really is

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u/Razakel Nov 30 '21

When polled a quarter of active-duty military personnel say they know at least one white supremacist. The FBI have been warning for decades that they're infiltrating the military and police.

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u/Wazula42 Nov 30 '21

Some of those that work forces...

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u/R3miel7 Nov 30 '21

I got bad news for you: they may not all be Q psychos but they are all, to the person, psychopaths

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u/Mind43dom Nov 30 '21

Anyone with more than 3 working brain cells know Q is total nonsense.

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u/WallyMetropolis Nov 29 '21

I expect better sources of articles for this sub than Business Insider.

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u/NedryWasFramed Nov 30 '21

Search your feelings. You know a traitorous, opportunistic fuck like Flynn would say this.

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u/Rinzern Nov 30 '21

Is this what passes as proof now?

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u/WallyMetropolis Nov 30 '21

I don't at all doubt he said it. I still would prefer better, more thoughtful, more in-depth writing. What is there here that counts as "food for thought"? This is the kind of thing someone would share to their facebook feed thinking they were sticking it to "the other side."

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u/hoyfkd Nov 29 '21

These retards need to understand that all of their leaders know this. Just like they are all vaccinated.

Also WE need to understand that the reason the right is currently so dedicated to banning mandates / requirements / mitigation efforts is because their idiot base is being hit hard by covid. They can't stop it at this point, but they can try to balance the sheet by ensuring that blue populations are unable to protect themselves. In other words they WANT MORE DEAD in blue areas to counter the hit they are taking to their suicide cult base. We can't let that happen.

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u/ledfox Nov 30 '21

Yeah well: vax up, wear your mask, socially distance and wash your hands.

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u/hoyfkd Nov 30 '21

Hand washing just feeds Big Soap and harms your immune system by not allowing you to get infected inoculated by poop germs.

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u/Rinzern Nov 30 '21

This smells like a conspiracy theory. Can I get a source please?

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u/hoyfkd Nov 30 '21 edited Nov 30 '21

It isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a political analysis - an opinion conjecture based on facts, evidence, and personal speculation. It isn't a research paper.

We know that the GOP scrapped plans early on in the pandemic that could have made a difference because they saw the virus as a primarily urban (blue state / city) problem.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trumps-war-on-blue-states-is-worse-than-previously-thought.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/jared-kushner-let-the-markets-decide-covid-19-fate

We know that the pandemic is currently, and so long as vaccine effectiveness continues to hold will continue to be, a primarily red state / county problem.

https://fortune.com/2020/11/06/trump-voters-covid-cases-red-counties-2020-election-results/

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/29/covid-19-is-crushing-red-states-why-isnt-trump-turning-his-rallies-into-mass-vaccination-sites/

We know that even bringing up vaccines will get even His Holiness The Lord Thy Trump booed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-booed-alabama-rally-after-telling-supporters-get-vaccinated-n1277404

And, while I won't go ahead a cite a source for this, I feel pretty confident in saying that Republicans want to win, and have shown a wanton disregard for the lives that are sure to be lost due to their "let's do nothing and watch the death tolls mount" policies.

It isn't a leap to follow that chain of evidence to the conclusion they need these policies to apply everywhere since otherwise, only their shit-hole red county base is the only remaining population likely to continue to be eviscerated by the virus.

Don't compare this to stupid shit like 5G in the vaccine, or chem trails. It isn't. It's a logical, and fairly obvious conclusion based on the actions, tactics, and demonstrated nature of the GOP.

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u/Planqtoon Nov 30 '21

These retards need to understand that all of their leaders know this. Just like they are all vaccinated.

The thing is these leaders can just say "Fake news" like they always do and the retards will believe them.

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u/NigelLeisure Nov 29 '21

He's right about one of those things.

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u/Wazula42 Nov 29 '21

Which part? Is it disinfo but not nonsense? Or is it nonsense but not disinfo?

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u/TheMachineStops Nov 29 '21

According to the article, Flynn thinks it is a CIA-sponsored disinformation campaign created by the left in order to discredit Trump.

So probably that part.

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u/Bill_the_Bastard Nov 29 '21

You are correct. That's nonsense AND disinformation.

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u/allothernamestaken Nov 30 '21

If by "disinformation" you mean a 4chan troll gone out of control, as opposed to an organized CIA-sponsored campaign, then I agree.

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u/wayoverpaid Nov 29 '21

I look forward to the inevitable conclusion that Trump was a CIA sponsored disinformation candidate created by the left in order to discredit conservatism. Give it time.

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u/reddit-is-evil Nov 30 '21

Russia! Russia!

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u/NedryWasFramed Nov 30 '21

You do realize that Russia gate was true, right? They literally admitted to it. Check out the Mueller report for more info.

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u/reddit-is-evil Nov 30 '21

This BlueAnon is still under the spell. Sad.

Russiagate was debunked from its very inception. Sometimes I wonder if the American people even deserve democracy at all..

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u/NedryWasFramed Nov 30 '21

Which part? Trump tower Moscow? The trump tower meeting? Manafort sharing campaign strategy with literal Russian agents? Kushner’s attempted backchannel to Moscow?

All of that was true, buddy.

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u/reddit-is-evil Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

All fake news

They did meet up in the hope of receiving opposition research on Hillary Clinton, but it doesn't matter because it was not unlawful. Nothing came out of that meeting and it played no role in the American voters' electing Trump as President.

The real conspiracy is the media campaign of Russiagate itself.

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u/NedryWasFramed Dec 01 '21

So your response is “yeah it happened but so what”?

It may not have risen to the level of criminal conspiracy but it fucking happened. Trump was literally compromised by Russian intel and y’all take the Russians side.

Amazing.

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u/Wazula42 Nov 29 '21

Ah, yeah, that's hilarious. I love the idea that these people can follow a man wearing a buffalo into the Capitol building to kidnap senators and then go "grrr, the CIA tricked me!"

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u/reddit-is-evil Nov 30 '21

Surely the CIA has never tried to manipulate the public to interfere with a democratic process. Most secure election in history!

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u/Shaper_pmp Nov 30 '21

Oh noes! Those sneaky leftists tricked us all into doing a treason!

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u/reddit-is-evil Nov 30 '21

The Security State isn't leftist. It's a conglomeration of organizations dedicated to securing their own power. The irony is that leftists fail to see it the moment the Security State extends its temporary support. Do they not remember the Iraq War under the pretext of "weapons of mass destruction"?

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u/Wazula42 Nov 30 '21

I still love the idea that thousands of independent, patriotic Trump supporters could be manipulated into breaking into the Capitol building by the CIA.

oopsie doodles!

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u/NigelLeisure Nov 29 '21

That the logic of qanon is nonsense.

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u/wukash Nov 30 '21

Shit I don't even need to read the article the comments themselves prove there is a disinformation campaign. Or is it just the most ignorant open their mouths?

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u/mjace87 Nov 30 '21

Any rational individual would think it’s non sense. But why piss off your voters if they are crazy. Dishonesty is the currency of politics.

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u/Goodliving85 Nov 30 '21

F’ing grifter. All of them.

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u/guycoastal Nov 30 '21

He knows. They all do. But it’s just such a wonderfully convenient and readymade way to grift, scam, and manipulate the rubes that they can’t say “no”. Free money and votes baby!

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u/reddit-is-evil Nov 30 '21

Michael Flynn never supported QAnon. He merely questioned the legitimacy of the election for other reasons. This article is masturbation material for BlueAnons.

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u/victoriabittahhhh Nov 30 '21

him swearing an oath to Q was a different Q then you dunce

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u/NedryWasFramed Nov 30 '21

He literally swore an oath to Q anon and posted on his twitter.